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Post by hardball on Apr 23, 2018 14:19:05 GMT
How do we know CACW took place in 2016? Cap says he's 95 in WS and Zola says he was born in 1918, so the film is set in 2013. Now Ross said the Avengers had been operating for 4 years without supervision. But he couldn't have been referring to the time of the Avengers' founding, because they were being supervised by Nick Fury. Near the end of the Avengers Fury was asking the World Security Council not to deploy the nukes. I also seem to recall early in the movie that Fury was talking to the council after Loki got the tesseract. Either Fury takes orders from the council or at least consults them. So the 4 years Ross mentioned has to be after WS when Shield fell. When it did fall there was no longer any group to supervise the Avengers. If this is true then CW is in 2017, as is SMH. The eight years in SMH refers to the period 2010-2017. Vision's statement of 8 years may refer to the period after Stark declared he was IM (2009-2017). CW (which takes place just a few months before SMH) is explicitly stated to have taken place eight years after the events of the first Iron Man film. There’s no way that film and *The Avengers* took place in the same year. Iron Man took place in 2008, avengers in 2010. Where in CW does it say it took place 8 years after IM?
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 23, 2018 14:24:23 GMT
CW (which takes place just a few months before SMH) is explicitly stated to have taken place eight years after the events of the first Iron Man film. There’s no way that film and *The Avengers* took place in the same year. Iron Man took place in 2008, avengers in 2010. Where in CW does it say it took place 8 years after IM? Vison says it's been 8 years since Tony announced he was Iron Man.
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Post by hardball on Apr 23, 2018 14:34:31 GMT
Iron Man took place in 2008, avengers in 2010. Where in CW does it say it took place 8 years after IM? Vison says it's been 8 years since Tony announced he was Iron Man. What Vision said was 8 years since, meaning his count is from the year since the announcement. Tony said he was IM in 2008 so vision was referring to the year since, 2009. Also WS took place in 2013 and CW is 4 years later.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 23, 2018 14:55:44 GMT
Vison says it's been 8 years since Tony announced he was Iron Man. What Vision said was 8 years since, meaning his count is from the year since the announcement. Tony said he was IM in 2008 so vision was referring to the year since, 2009. Also WS took place in 2013 and CW is 4 years later. Yes, Tony says he's Iron Man in 2008. 8 years later is 2016, I don't know how you can argue Vision isn't counting the year 2008. It doesn't matter to me. I'm an MCU fan and I acknowledge they made a mistake in SMH. To me it's just not a big deal. In Civil War, Sam specifically says they've been looking for Bucky for 2 years, how can it take place 4 years after WS?
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 23, 2018 15:30:20 GMT
Great now it's out there and still nobody cares because it still doesn't matter. This is about as important as a typo.
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Post by scabab on Apr 23, 2018 17:13:38 GMT
How do we know CACW took place in 2016? Iron Man took place in 2008 and the Vision in Civil War says it had been 8 years since he'd announced himself as Iron Man so it should be 2016. Well depending on what month the movie is set in then it could be 2013 or 2014 but I would say the latter is more likely because that matches it's real life equivalent. Then after that Age of Ultron was set one year after so 2015 and Civil War was set one year after that so 2016. Which again matches real time. That would make for a 4 year gap between Winter Soldier and Civil War which is too much considering they said in that movie they'd been searching for Winter Soldier for 2 years. From everything I can determine its something like this Captain America - 1942-1945 Iron Man - 2008 Iron Man 2/Incredible Hulk/Thor - 2009 Avengers - 2010 Iron Man 3 - 2012 Captain America 2/Guardians/Guardians 2 - 2014 Avengers 2/Ant-man - 2015 Civil War/Spider-man Homecoming/Black Panther - 2016 Thor 3 - 2017 Not sure about Thor 2 that could be 2011 or 2012. Not sure about Doctor Strange.
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Apr 23, 2018 17:23:20 GMT
How do we know CACW took place in 2016? Iron Man took place in 2008 and the Vision in Civil War says it had been 8 years since he'd announced himself as Iron Man so it should be 2016. Well depending on what month the movie is set in then it could be 2013 or 2014 but I would say the latter is more likely because that matches it's real life equivalent. Then after that Age of Ultron was set one year after so 2015 and Civil War was set one year after that so 2016. Which again matches real time. That would make for a 4 year gap between Winter Soldier and Civil War which is too much considering they said in that movie they'd been searching for Winter Soldier for 2 years. From everything I can determine its something like this Captain America - 1942-1945 Iron Man - 2008 Iron Man 2/Incredible Hulk/Thor - 2009 Avengers - 2010 Iron Man 3 - 2012 Captain America 2/Guardians/Guardians 2 - 2014 Avengers 2/Ant-man - 2015 Civil War/Spider-man Homecoming/Black Panther - 2016 Thor 3 - 2017 Not sure about Thor 2 that could be 2011 or 2012. Not sure about Doctor Strange. I thought iron man 3 was 6 months after the battle of New York?
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Post by sostie on Apr 23, 2018 18:21:07 GMT
Not sure about Doctor Strange. Doctor Strange starts around the time of Age Of Ultron - The Avengers tower is glimpsed at the beginning so 2015-2016, and ends just before Ragnarok, 2017 (?), due to the mid credit sequence A few things may have put that placing in doubt Just before he crashes his car he he is offered a few jobs - one is a 22-year-old female with an electronic implant in her brain, which treats her schizophrenia who has been struck by lightning - some have thought this might be Captain Marvel. If so that means DS would be set around the 90's which is when Cap Marvel is set. But this doesn't tie up with Ms/Captain Marvels origins and is actually closer to the origin of Typhoid Mary. The other is a 35 year old an air force colonel who hurt his spine in a suit of experimental armour. Sounds like War Machine...which would pin Strange's accident just after Civil War. But is Rhodes really 35 years old!!!! We know that the US military had been trying to create their own "Iron Man". So it probably isn't War Machine. Which has been confirmed by the filmmakers. It's also been pointed out that Strange has a huge ego. He says the job isn't worth his time...but what would be more enticing than saving an Avenger? Strange being mentioned by Sitwell in Winter Soldier. This would place events before WS. However, the algorithm looks for future potential threats to Hydra...being a high profile surgeon (apparentley famous) who would be against a Hydra agenda would be a threat. When you see Project Insight started the number of targets shown on screen is huge...it seems it goes "deep" when picking it's targets. (one of those named targets is another doctor..a Michael Lindon...so maybe certain members of the medical profession are seen as a threat). Also, Fiege has confirmed that they are referring to a pre-accident Strange.
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Post by scabab on Apr 23, 2018 18:54:45 GMT
I thought iron man 3 was 6 months after the battle of New York? I heard something like that before. Where was that said? In the movie it opens in 1999 and later Killian says that he asked Tony Stark to join AIM 13 years ago. So it would have been 2012. I also didn't think it was supposed to be that long after Avengers either and it would make sense that it did take place in 2012 as that would fit real time. Doctor Strange starts around the time of Age Of Ultron - The Avengers tower is glimpsed at the beginning so 2015-2016, and ends just before Ragnarok, 2017 (?), due to the mid credit sequence Didn't they also mention The Avengers in the movie at one point? With all the training, I could see it taking place over a lengthy period. They could have been referring to James Rhodes and with it ending in line with Thor Ragnarok it would be about a year's time.
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Post by sostie on Apr 23, 2018 19:01:34 GMT
I thought iron man 3 was 6 months after the battle of New York? I heard something like that before. Where was that said? In the movie it opens in 1999 and later Killian says that he asked Tony Stark to join AIM 13 years ago. So it would have been 2012. I also didn't think it was supposed to be that long after Avengers either and it would make sense that it did take place in 2012 as that would fit real time. If so, December 2012 to be exact. (A lot of Shane Blacks films take place at Christmas - Lethal Weapon, The Long Kiss Goodnight, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, Iron Man 3 and The Nice Guys)
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Apr 23, 2018 19:36:10 GMT
I thought iron man 3 was 6 months after the battle of New York? I heard something like that before. Where was that said? In the movie it opens in 1999 and later Killian says that he asked Tony Stark to join AIM 13 years ago. So it would have been 2012. I also didn't think it was supposed to be that long after Avengers either and it would make sense that it did take place in 2012 as that would fit real time. Doctor Strange starts around the time of Age Of Ultron - The Avengers tower is glimpsed at the beginning so 2015-2016, and ends just before Ragnarok, 2017 (?), due to the mid credit sequence Didn't they also mention The Avengers in the movie at one point? With all the training, I could see it taking place over a lengthy period. They could have been referring to James Rhodes and with it ending in line with Thor Ragnarok it would be about a year's time. I’m pretty sure 6 months was mentioned in relation to Tony’s panic attacks since the battle. And yes, it’s christmas time then.
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Post by scabab on Apr 23, 2018 21:04:50 GMT
I’m pretty sure 6 months was mentioned in relation to Tony’s panic attacks since the battle. And yes, it’s christmas time then. Well I've used things like this to find out dates and stuff. www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/movie_script.php?movie=iron-man-3And then Ctrl F and when I put in "month" I don't see anything referring to it being six months after. Apparently it's one of the trailers that mentions it being six months so I'll have to check that.
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