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Post by kratos on Apr 22, 2018 17:51:41 GMT
Even though it's labelled as such, did they retcon that movie out of existence?
That one seems almost forgotten. What about to Betty Ross? She was never mentioned again. Also they teased The Leader but nothing came of that at all.
Did the events of that movie still take place or not?
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 22, 2018 17:52:54 GMT
Even though it's labelled as such, did they retcon that movie out of existence? That one seems almost forgotten. What about to Betty Ross? She was never mentioned again. Also they teased The Leader but nothing came of that at all. Did the events of that movie still take place or not? Officially, I think it's still canon. |
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Apr 22, 2018 17:58:32 GMT
Even though it's labelled as such, did they retcon that movie out of existence? That one seems almost forgotten. What about to Betty Ross? She was never mentioned again. Also they teased The Leader but nothing came of that at all. Did the events of that movie still take place or not? Sure, it is. The end scene with Banner controlling the transformation is directly referenced in the climactic battle for NY when he says he’s always angry and hulks out. Plus it’s part of the 22 movie count and there is a copy of it next to my collector tesseract. Abomination was referenced in Agents of Shield, too. I wish the Leader would have played a role, but Betty’s spot was replaced by Natasha setting the sun. It’s more convenient to take her along on missions. And Ross in Civil War is the same actor/character as in TIH. |
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Post by judgejosephdredd on Apr 22, 2018 18:21:35 GMT
Yes.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 22, 2018 18:41:04 GMT
Yes it is part of the MCU.
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Post by _ on Apr 22, 2018 18:47:48 GMT
I prefer HULK (2003)
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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 22, 2018 19:06:50 GMT
Even though it's labelled as such, did they retcon that movie out of existence? That one seems almost forgotten. What about to Betty Ross? She was never mentioned again. Also they teased The Leader but nothing came of that at all. Did the events of that movie still take place or not? It is unofficially officially in the MCU. Hulk is still a Universal character. I think Ross and even Talbot might be in that same gray area like Quicksilver. |
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Post by scabab on Apr 22, 2018 19:22:42 GMT
Well yeah it should be because they brought back General Ross for Civil War.
But yeah did they ever mention Betty Ross again? Bruce Banner just seemed to move on to Black Widow without even a mention of her.
They probably would have had The Leader in a sequel but the first one wasn't that successful I guess.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 22, 2018 20:08:31 GMT
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Post by politicidal on Apr 22, 2018 23:35:24 GMT
Yes and no. It's acknowledged but never included in the greater scheme of things. It's too bad since I enjoyed it. While not complex, Abomination was a fun villain.
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Post by harpospoke on Apr 23, 2018 3:28:03 GMT
It's their worst movie so I don't mind if they just forget about it. Ross is still around so it must count.
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Post by scabab on Apr 23, 2018 8:17:57 GMT
Yes and no. It's acknowledged but never included in the greater scheme of things. It's too bad since I enjoyed it. While not complex, Abomination was a fun villain. Yeah out of all of them, it's definitely the least important one. In fact you could just not watch that movie at all and you wouldn't really miss out on anything. |
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Post by sostie on Apr 23, 2018 8:33:46 GMT
Even though it's labelled as such, did they retcon that movie out of existence? That one seems almost forgotten. What about to Betty Ross? She was never mentioned again. Also they teased The Leader but nothing came of that at all. Did the events of that movie still take place or not? Sure, it is. The end scene with Banner controlling the transformation is directly referenced in the climactic battle for NY when he says he’s always angry and hulks out. Plus it’s part of the 22 movie count and there is a copy of it next to my collector tesseract. Abomination was referenced in Agents of Shield, too. I wish the Leader would have played a role, but Betty’s spot was replaced by Natasha setting the sun. It’s more convenient to take her along on missions. And Ross in Civil War is the same actor/character as in TIH. Plus Tony Stark's appearance in the post credits sequence |
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Post by sostie on Apr 23, 2018 8:41:55 GMT
Even though it's labelled as such, did they retcon that movie out of existence? That one seems almost forgotten. What about to Betty Ross? She was never mentioned again. Well Bruce left her to protect her from The Hulk. I guess he's moved on since. There are rumours Betty will make an appearance in Infinity War..but then again there are a lot of rumours about that film. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Apr 23, 2018 9:17:31 GMT
Yes although I bet they wish they did a better job with it.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 23, 2018 14:23:51 GMT
I like the film and I think Blonsky is actually one of the best villains in the MCU.
BTW, Blonsky has been mentioned several times in Agents of SHIELD if you needed any more proof that the movie is part of the MCU.
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Post by dazz on Apr 23, 2018 15:16:10 GMT
Even though it's labelled as such, did they retcon that movie out of existence? That one seems almost forgotten. What about to Betty Ross? She was never mentioned again. Also they teased The Leader but nothing came of that at all. Did the events of that movie still take place or not? It is unofficially officially in the MCU. Hulk is still a Universal character. I think Ross and even Talbot might be in that same gray area like Quicksilver. Universal have distribution rights to any stand alone Hulk movie, they have no ownership of the character or associated characters, his is why Universal doesn't make their own Hulk film, they lost or sold them back to Marvel a while back but retained distributions rights, for how long though is unclear, could be time limit based of number of films based, one would allow Disney to just wait them out the other would require Disney deciding never to do a stand alone or coming to some agreement with Universal down the line.
Also pretty sure it's officially part of the MCU much of the film is referenced in Avengers such as time between Banner's episodes, Banner trying to kill himself though cant recall if this is in the film or a deleted scene, breaking Harlem and such, plus it's referenced in AOS and stuff also.
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Apr 23, 2018 15:20:47 GMT
It is unofficially officially in the MCU. Hulk is still a Universal character. I think Ross and even Talbot might be in that same gray area like Quicksilver. Universal have distribution rights to any stand alone Hulk movie, they have no ownership of the character or associated characters, his is why Universal doesn't make their own Hulk film, they lost or sold them back to Marvel a while back but retained distributions rights, for how long though is unclear, could be time limit based of number of films based, one would allow Disney to just wait them out the other would require Disney deciding never to do a stand alone or coming to some agreement with Universal down the line.
Also pretty sure it's officially part of the MCU much of the film is referenced in Avengers such as time between Banner's episodes, Banner trying to kill himself though cant recall if this is in the film or a deleted scene, breaking Harlem and such, plus it's referenced in AOS and stuff also.
Banner shooting himself is a deleted scene from TIH, with the Cap in ice Easter egg as the ice underneath is breaking apart. That was a good reference, though. |
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Post by dazz on Apr 23, 2018 15:33:06 GMT
Universal have distribution rights to any stand alone Hulk movie, they have no ownership of the character or associated characters, his is why Universal doesn't make their own Hulk film, they lost or sold them back to Marvel a while back but retained distributions rights, for how long though is unclear, could be time limit based of number of films based, one would allow Disney to just wait them out the other would require Disney deciding never to do a stand alone or coming to some agreement with Universal down the line.
Also pretty sure it's officially part of the MCU much of the film is referenced in Avengers such as time between Banner's episodes, Banner trying to kill himself though cant recall if this is in the film or a deleted scene, breaking Harlem and such, plus it's referenced in AOS and stuff also.
Banner shooting himself is a deleted scene from TIH, with the Cap in ice Easter egg as the ice underneath is breaking apart. That was a good reference, though. Although odd how they reference both endings in Avengers, the attempted suicide and Banner being able to hulk out at will, especially given both I think reveal Cap's shield in the ice, that's just contradictory right there that is. |
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