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Post by sdrew13163 on Apr 24, 2018 20:47:30 GMT
I just watched Se7en. I guess in that he's pretty much just playing himself. but the real question is what did you think of Se7en? I really liked it. It was surprisingly my first viewing and I can already tell (like all great mysteries) that multiple viewings are required. Freeman gives a great performance and the cinematography and set design is remarkable. My only real beef with it is that I don't think Brad Pitt was the right choice for Mills. He did good in every scene except the ones it felt like he needed to dig deep on. It really is a great movie overall, though.
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Post by salomonj on Apr 24, 2018 20:52:31 GMT
but the real question is what did you think of Se7en? I really liked it. It was surprisingly my first viewing and I can already tell (like all great mysteries) that multiple viewings are required. Freeman gives a great performance and the cinematography and set design is remarkable. My only real beef with it is that I don't think Brad Pitt was the right choice for Mills. He did good in every scene except the ones it felt like he needed to dig deep on. It really is a great movie overall, though. Glad you liked it. It definitely gets better with repeat viewings. It’s one of my all time favorite films and the ending is such a punch to the gut.
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Post by salomonj on Apr 24, 2018 20:54:52 GMT
but the real question is what did you think of Se7en? I really liked it. It was surprisingly my first viewing and I can already tell (like all great mysteries) that multiple viewings are required. Freeman gives a great performance and the cinematography and set design is remarkable. My only real beef with it is that I don't think Brad Pitt was the right choice for Mills. He did good in every scene except the ones it felt like he needed to dig deep on. It really is a great movie overall, though. All the actors give great performances but the standout is honestly the guy who was forced to rape that poor woman in the lust sin. The interview is so chilling and the acting is phenomenal (idek the actors name nor have I seen him in anything else).
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Apr 24, 2018 20:57:46 GMT
I think it is ok to watch films where he is the bad guy, although maybe not Glengarry Glen Ross, the Usual Suspects and Seven since he is kind of victorious.
American Beauty may be ok.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Apr 24, 2018 20:57:54 GMT
I think I've only ever owned a single title of his on VHS/DVD anyways, & that's Glengarry Glen Ross, which the entire ensemble packs its weight.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Apr 24, 2018 21:00:54 GMT
I really liked it. It was surprisingly my first viewing and I can already tell (like all great mysteries) that multiple viewings are required. Freeman gives a great performance and the cinematography and set design is remarkable. My only real beef with it is that I don't think Brad Pitt was the right choice for Mills. He did good in every scene except the ones it felt like he needed to dig deep on. It really is a great movie overall, though. All the actors give great performances but the standout is honestly the guy who was forced to rape that poor woman in the lust sin. The interview is so chilling and the acting is phenomenal (idek the actors name nor have I seen him in anything else). Agreed, he really did a great job. On the IMDb Trivia for the movie it says he stayed up for several days in advance to look drained and confused and then started purposely breathing quickly just before the camera rolled so it looked and sounded as if he was hyperventilating. Fincher is able to pull great performances from actors all the time, and it's impressive. I remember him from a small role he had in Saving Private Ryan, but I don't think I've seen him in anything else.
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Post by outrider127 on Apr 24, 2018 21:59:12 GMT
Never liked his weird pasty face anyway--only movie I could stand him in was American Beauty, and now, forget about watching that movie lol
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Post by NewtJorden on Apr 24, 2018 22:02:07 GMT
He may be a terrible person, but i wont stop watching movies i like just because he's in them.
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Post by Salzmank on Apr 24, 2018 22:03:47 GMT
Sure, why not? As delon wrote, none of the personal stuff affects the performance and the movie. That’s why I generally try to pay zero attention to actors’ personal lives. I’m aware that all of that may be a wildly unpopular opinion, but so be it.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Apr 24, 2018 23:20:07 GMT
Over 30yrs ago, when Spacey wasn't even on the radar. The accusation understandably has had a rippling effect, though I am not sure if the actor who came forward with the claim, was fully aware of the implications\consequences of outing Spacey. I wonder if he now feels in hindsight, it it was worth it for him and serious enough to make a deal about it, considering it is also a 3 decade old historical allegation, to railroad Spacey's career? The answer may easily be "no" for us - but we should just think of the trauma and sense of insecurity imposed on the young boy, and the years later when he grows up. I think it is unfair that he should have considered Spacey's current reputation when it was Spacey who decided to sexually harass him, a young boy. Also, the allegations of sexual harassment continues to recent years - just at the theater where Spacey works in - there have been 20 allegations spanning two decades. The young boy, is now a grown man approaching 50, and while one can't lay claim to how someone else might feel about something, as far as I'm concerned, this man who has had an ok acting career himself— how traumatized is he really?—appears to have also been caught up in the wave of me too hysteria. It doesn't sound like a majorly serious violation and we don't know his friends or connections who could have influenced him. Quite frankly though, I feel he has been operating from a victim mentality mode, and perhaps even one of revenge. As for the other accusations against Spacey, perhaps more bulls<>t. Can't anyone make a pass at anyone else anymore without being railroaded, especially if they are famous? I don't do self-pity or buy into the victim mode that well, and I think some things are not even worth mentioning to the media or the police. They don't give a s<>t either, it's just a vocation for them.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Apr 24, 2018 23:22:29 GMT
I think it is ok to watch films where he is the bad guy, although maybe not Glengarry Glen Ross, the Usual Suspects and Seven since he is kind of victorious. American Beauty may be ok. ^^^ Can people really be this simpleminded. 
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Apr 24, 2018 23:49:51 GMT
^^^ Can people really be this simpleminded.  Only if people take such comments seriously.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 0:02:18 GMT
I was watching the usual suspects last night. I guess it's okay if there's a bunch of other leading dudes in the movie to dilute the yuck.
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Post by Sulla on Apr 25, 2018 1:17:04 GMT
I don't care what the social media mob thinks. I just watched Swimming with Sharks again. He's brilliant as the boss from Hell.
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Post by poelzig on Apr 25, 2018 3:44:40 GMT
I'm not sure he is working today. He's been accused of molesting/raping teenage boys. He can go away and be replaced by someone else. That's okay, too. I thought he was just accused of making a drunken pass at a 14-year-old. The boy said no and went home. There was no actual rape, at least that was my understanding. Nope. He tried to rape a kid. The kid had to flee Spacey's apartment half naked at 3 am after falling asleep during a party. It's odd how so many people seem to give Spacey a free pass but want to toss the guys who groped women in prison. If anything pinning a 14 year old kid down and trying to rape him is worse than trying to bang some wanna be actress who is showing up to "audition" in a hotel room at 2 am. Is it because y'all like Spacey better or just have no sympathy for a male or a kid or what exactly? 14 is still a kid while most (all?) of the women had at least an idea they would probably be aggressively hit on. It's still no excuse to attack the bimbos but what were they thinking was going to happen? It is hilarious watching all these sanctimonious hollywood douchebags throw each other under the bus. It's amazing that there are still dirt stupid morons who think those rapist freaks should be running the country.
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Post by Eλευθερί on Apr 25, 2018 3:58:17 GMT
I'm not sure he is working today. He's been accused of molesting/raping teenage boys. He can go away and be replaced by someone else. That's okay, too. Has he been accused of rape? I don't think I've heard that. But I could be wrong. An unnamed man who is now 48 claims that when he was 14, Spacey, who was 24, carried on a sexual relationship with him that ended when Spacey allegedly attempted to rape him. Spacey denies the allegations through a spokesperson. www.vulture.com/2017/11/kevin-spacey-alleged-sexual-relationship.htmlActor Anthony Rapp says that when Rapp was a 14-year-old actor on Broadway, Spacey invited him to a party at Spacey's apartment. Rapp says that after everyone else had left, Spacey, apparently drunk, tried to have sex with him, but Rapp squirmed away and left. Spacey denies any recollection of the event, but says that if anything like that occurred, it was because he was drunk. www.vulture.com/2017/10/actor-says-kevin-spacey-tried-to-seduce-him-when-he-was-14.htmlThe son of actor Richard Dreyfuss alleges that Spacey sexually assaulted him while his father was in the same room. Harry Dreyfuss, 18 at the time, says that Spacey groped his crotch while his father was not looking. (Spacey was directing his father in a theatrical production in London at the time.) Spacey's lawyer has said Spacey absolutely denies the allegation. www.theguardian.com/film/2017/nov/06/kevin-spacey-accused-of-sexual-assault-by-actor-richard-son-kevin-dreyfuss In the wake of allegations having been made by Rapp and others, the Old Vic theatre in London, where Spacey was artistic director for a decade, undertook an investigation to determine whether there had been any inappropriate behavior while Spacey had worked there. The investigation reported 20 individual allegations of inappropriate behavior by Spacey--14 of which were deemed of such severity that the theatre advised the complainants to take the matters up with the police. All of the allegations involved young men over the age of 18, and none involved rape. The theatre said that senior staff had received no formal complaints of any incidents during Spacey's tenure; the complaints had only surfaced after he had left. Some former staff have alleged that Spacey's behavior had been an open secret. www.theguardian.com/culture/2017/nov/16/kevin-spacey-old-vic-inquiry-finds-20-claims-of-inappropriate-behaviourAt least 8 current or past crew members on House of Cards have accused Spacey of inappropriate behavior, typically involving young male staff members. One former employee alleges that Spacey sexually assaulted him (which included putting his hands down the staff member's pants). money.cnn.com/2017/11/02/media/house-of-cards-kevin-spacey-harassment/index.html
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Apr 25, 2018 7:12:25 GMT
^^^ Can people really be this simpleminded.  Only if people take such comments seriously. So you had your tongue in your cheek. Nice to know, it's hard to tell sometimes. 
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Post by eplay on Apr 26, 2018 0:14:00 GMT
Of course.
The movie/performance is a world unto its own. Even if he or anyone else was a murderer, I could watch his/their films.
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Post by Sir_Farty_Fartsalot on Apr 26, 2018 6:38:58 GMT
Let's just say I watched "LA Confidential" and "Se7en" recently and I didn't give Spacey's recent notoriety any thought.
The same with "Chinatown" and Roman Polanski
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Apr 26, 2018 6:48:50 GMT
Or are they still off limits? Is he still in timeout? If you like the movie, watch it. Or Roman Polanski movies. Or OJ Movies (would you deprive yourself of Police Squad movies?). Or Gig Young movies. Cosby comedy specials and series are different, at least to me.
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