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Post by spiderwort on Apr 25, 2018 20:14:35 GMT
I watched The Apartment again yesterday for the umpteenth time, and it was as rich and rewarding this time as any other. Wilder was a master writer/director of both comedies and dramas. One of the greats.
My all-time favorites:
Double Indemnity (1942) The Apartment (1960) Sabrina (1954) Some Like it Hot (1959) Ace in the Hole (1951)
I admire Sunset Boulevard tremendously, but for some reason I never warmed to it as others have.
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Post by delon on Apr 25, 2018 20:58:34 GMT
Sunset Boulevard is my favourite with The Lost Weekend being close second.
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Post by movielover on Apr 25, 2018 21:09:14 GMT
Stalag 17 Witness for the Prosecution Sunset Boulevard Sabrina
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 25, 2018 21:14:57 GMT
I watched The Apartment again yesterday for the umpteenth time, and it was as rich and rewarding this time as any other. Wilder was a master writer/director of both comedies and dramas. One of the greats. My all-time favorites: Double Indemnity (1942) The Apartment (1960) Sabrina (1954) Some Like it Hot (1959) Ace in the Hole (1951) I admire Sunset Boulevard tremendously, but for some reason I never warmed to it as others have. This is very difficult to answer, Spiderwort!!! If you count ratio of great movies to not so great movies of all directors then Billy Wilder might take the top spot as almost all his movies are awesome. I like many of his works but if I was hard pressed to pick my favourite then I will have a hard time choosing between Double Indemnity and Ace in the Hole. Double Indemnity started my noir fever. After watching it I went on extensive spree of searching for Noir movies, reading about them, watching them and discussing them. Barbara Stanwyck remains my all-time fav actress and E.G. Robinson is among my all time fav actors. After watching it I started imagining myself as a hero of a noir Movie. I would dream on all day day long as some sort of gangster who got innocently involved in crime world. This happened like 10 years ago. But over the long run I have come to conclusion that Ace in the Hole made a very solid point about media. It's not the big things that make news. It's often the small things that create news and media only corrupts the situation instead of adding any real positive value. That movie was well ahead of its time. And just like you I also have not warmed up to Boulevard. I liked Stalag 17 a lot.
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Post by sostie on Apr 26, 2018 0:07:20 GMT
I like all the usual suspects but one I love that often gets forgotten is The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes (1970)
Also I have a very soft spot for the much maligned Buddy, Buddy (1981) .
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Post by snsurone on Apr 26, 2018 0:14:23 GMT
Billy Wilder once said that he deserved a Purple Heart for directing TWO movies starring Marilyn Monroe. Yet, they are two of his best movies. I'm particular to THE SEVEN YEAR ITCH.
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Post by kijii on Apr 26, 2018 0:57:04 GMT
I first fell in love with comical irony while watching The Seven Year Itch (1955) years after it was made.
So, let me pick that one for now. To me it was Billy Liar (1963) and The Secret Life of Walter Mitty (1947) all rolled into one--and on steroids.  Imagine an editor of cheap pulp fiction paper-back novels imagining that the sexy woman upstairs is falling in love with him while his wife is up in Maine.
Tom MacKenzie (Sonny Tufts): What blonde in the kitchen?
Richard Sherman (Tom Ewell): Wouldn't you like to know! Maybe it's Marilyn Monroe!
To add another trick of Wilder's writing-- In Sabrina (1954) we have Linus Larrabee (Bogy) is ordering two tickets for the Broadway show, The Seven Year Itch from his limo.
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Post by mattgarth on Apr 26, 2018 1:00:09 GMT
A big fan of his second feature -- FIVE GRAVES TO CAIRO in 1943.
Also mentioning THE SPIRIT OF ST. LOUIS.
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Post by snsurone on Apr 26, 2018 1:14:38 GMT
A big fan of his second feature -- FIVE GRAVES TO CAIRO in 1943. Also mentioning THE SPIRIT OF ST. LOUIS. Oh, I don't know about the latter film, Matt. IMHO, Jimmy Stewart was too old to play Charles Lindbergh.
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Post by smiley on Apr 26, 2018 2:48:45 GMT
The Apartment Double Indemnity Sunset Blvd The Fortune Cookie Avanti!
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Post by mattgarth on Apr 26, 2018 3:46:36 GMT
A big fan of his second feature -- FIVE GRAVES TO CAIRO in 1943. Also mentioning THE SPIRIT OF ST. LOUIS. Oh, I don't know about the latter film, Matt. IMHO, Jimmy Stewart was too old to play Charles Lindbergh. Yep, he was nearly twice as old as Lucky Lindy was when making that historic flight -- but what younger actor could have commanded our attention for two hours all alone in that cramped cockpit? By the same token, what was 6 feet 2 inch Peter O'Toole doing portraying diminutive (5'4") T.E. Lawrence? It would have been more accurate with Alan Ladd in the role.
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Post by snsurone on Apr 26, 2018 11:56:08 GMT
Oh, I don't know about the latter film, Matt. IMHO, Jimmy Stewart was too old to play Charles Lindbergh. Yep, he was nearly twice as old as Lucky Lindy was when making that historic flight -- but what younger actor could have commanded our attention for two hours all alone in that cramped cockpit? By the same token, what was 6 feet 2 inch Peter O'Toole doing portraying diminutive (5'4") T.E. Lawrence? It would have been more accurate with Alan Ladd in the role. How about your avatar, Matt--Monty Clift? Or Paul Newman? Or even Marlon Brando?
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Post by mattgarth on Apr 26, 2018 12:35:52 GMT
OK, what about it? If you mean height, Cagney was small in physical stature as well -- but sure stood tall on screen.
(and I was being facetious about O'Toole -- he made a terrific 'Lawrence')
The point I was making was that age or height considerations are secondary to performance -- and Stewart was an excellent Lindbergh.
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Post by politicidal on Apr 26, 2018 14:56:43 GMT
Double Indemnity
Five Graves to Cairo
Ace in the Hole
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Post by Salzmank on Apr 26, 2018 15:46:57 GMT
Many thanks for this thread, spiderwort—I’m a huge Billy Wilder fan, one of my very favorite writer-directors. There’s so much that intrigues me about Wilder, but one point that may not receive as much notice as it should is how faithfully Wilder carries on in the Lubitschean tradition. Sarris noted that Wilder is Lubitsch-turned-sour, but Lubitsch never denied sourness or cynicism in the world; he simply saw more to life than a superficial cynicism. Curiously, Wilder is much the same way, though it took him longer to discover it: a much-vaunted Wilderian cynicism pervades the early films, and reaches its zenith (or nadir?) with Ace in the Hole—but then we see his very next picture, Stalag 17, and how a sense of hope comes through. Sarris criticized William Holden’s little wave in Stalag 17; “Wilder is too cynical to believe in his own cynicism,” he wrote, but it’s more that Wilder is too intelligent to believe in his own cynicism. Certainly, Wilder returned to pure cynicism at times ( The Apartment most notably), but only in the ‘50s could he have made the romantic, if not wholly successful, efforts of Sabrina and Love in the Afternoon, and only in the ‘70s could he have made The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes, a graceful, autumnal symphony that ultimately shows cynicism as too facile to deal with the real problems of life and love. It’s an extraordinary journey over an extraordinary career—beginning with Lubitschean romanticism, turning to sourness after turning from the writer’s cubicle to the director’s chair, returning to where he began in the late stages of his life. In Wilder’s end was his beginning, a point that makes his oeuvre so very satisfying. Anyhoo, enough with auteurist musings… Favorite Wilder flicks. While I have warmed up to Sunset Boulevard (early on, I was also cold to it), speaking of “not warming up to,” I immensely admire Double Indemnity and love parts of it, especially any scene with Eddie G., but prefer many other Wilder films. To put it another way, if Some Like It Hot is on TCM, I’ll turn to it right away; if Double Indemnity is on, I may consider watching something else. Five Graves to Cairo gets overlooked at times, but it’s immensely clever, and Stroheim is brilliant as Rommel. Wilder should get more credit for making the play on which it was based immensely cinematic without “opening it up” too much. Sunset Boulevard is a brilliant portrait of obsession and decadence, and its intermingling of genres (as I once wrote of David Mamet, in many ways Wilder’s successor, Wilder creates his own genre) is masterly. Ace in the Hole is almost unbearable to watch, relentlessly glum (like The Lost Weekend), but it’s absolutely brilliant, and Douglas is at his best. Some Like It Hot is justly celebrated as wonderful and hilarious, though I have a real fondness for One, Two, Three, where Jimmy Cagney manages to make an unsympathetic character likeable. And, of course, the elegiac Private Life of Sherlock Holmes, which may be the best Sherlock Holmes film, considered as a film, ever made. Apologies for the wall of text, but many thanks again for this topic, Spider.
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Post by taranofprydain on Apr 26, 2018 17:35:58 GMT
The Major and the Minor Double Indemnity Sunset Boulevard Sabrina Love in the Afternoon Some Like It Hot The Apartment Irma La Douce The Fortune Cookie Fedora
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Post by petrolino on Apr 27, 2018 2:54:55 GMT
Billy Wilder : Top 10
'The Major And The Minor' (1942)

'Five Graves To Cairo' (1943)

'Double Indemnity' (1944)

'The Lost Weekend' (1945)

'Sunset Boulevard' (1950)

'Stalag 17' (1953)

'The Seven Year Itch' (1955)

'Some Like It Hot' (1959)

'The Apartment' (1960)

'Irma La Douce' (1963)

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Post by teleadm on Apr 27, 2018 8:53:21 GMT
Personal favorites:
Double Indemnity 1944 The Lost Weekend 1945 Sunset Boulevard 1950 Stalag 17 1953 Sabrina 1954 The Seven Year Itch 1955 Witness for the Prosecution 1957 Some Like It Hot 1959 The Apartment 1960 One Two Three 1961 Avanti! 1972 Fedora 1978
I think I one day must re-watch The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes 1970, because I have a feeling I totally missunderstood it.
Now I'm going to say something that might get me slapped in the face: I though The Emperor Waltz 1948 was a lousy Billy Wilder movie, but an entertaining Bing Crosby movie.
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Post by mattgarth on Apr 27, 2018 9:26:34 GMT
Tele is 'he who gets slapped'!
Wait a minute -- Tele is right!
Slap is rescinded.
Take back that slap.
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Post by timshelboy on Apr 27, 2018 11:26:21 GMT
Yes - a favourite of mine
THE APARTMENT FEDORA SOME LIKE IT HOT SUNSET BLVD ACE IN THE HOLE
would make my top 5
Glad to see some love for FEDORA on this thread - a neglected gem imho - in equal parts funny and moving... and I can't help feeling old film buffs are the target audience - we'll get the jokes - so I'd urge anyone that has not seen it to seek it out - Delicious soundtrack too probably my favourite Miklos Rozsa
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