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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 13, 2018 22:21:28 GMT
It is nothing like Justice League or Thor, quite the contrary. Describing it as the male equivalent to Wonder Woman, dumber yet more entertaining and adventure orientated, would make some sense. Really? Most reviews I’ve read do compare it to Justice League, Thor, and mid-level Marvel movies (which, despite the label on the former, are pretty much what those are). I liked Momoa well enough in Justice League–in fact, I liked the whole team, I just thought the movie was dreadful–but I’m not exactly a fan of the character, and reading those comparisons turned me off. Everybody seems to compare it to different films, says it all IMO. But I really do not know where these nonsensical comparisons come from. JL is an ensemble movie and completely different. Thor is the old tale of an arrogant God getting banned and finding redemption through love. Aquaman is about a simple guy who rejects his royal heritage but in order to save his world he must confront and accept it by going on teh classic hero's journey (including mentor, item etc). If you want to compare Aqua to a movie you do not like better take Man of Steel: there are structural similarities with the legacy arc, story and flashbacks. But Aqua is an light-hearted action fairy tale with an emphasis on surreal world building. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 13, 2018 21:41:27 GMT
I’ve been reading the reviews, and… While I wasn’t raring to see this, I was willing to be persuaded if the reviews were good. And, I mean, they are, but they’re not exactly fantastic. They actually rather remind me of the reviews for Justice League, which I couldn’t stand. And many of the compare it to Thor, which I also disliked, so I think ultimately it just doesn’t seem like my, er, um, kettle of fish. I thought Kyle Smith’s pan here was hilarious, though. It is nothing like Justice League or Thor, quite the contrary. Describing it as the male equivalent to Wonder Woman, dumber yet more entertaining and adventure orientated, would make some sense. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 13, 2018 21:00:21 GMT
But maybe you could finally enlighten me as to what the exact colonialism point and theme of BP was - please demonstrate by referring to exact dialogue and scene. If you are so tone deaf that you couldn't pick it out for yourself, you are beyond all hope and reason and wouldn't listen to anything I pointed out. So you got nothing. Let me quote you as adieu: " Not surprising considering who started it."  |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 13, 2018 20:56:03 GMT
Even Tristan's Journal can't get enough. The level of quality storytelling is too damn high.   |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 13, 2018 20:46:39 GMT
King Kong Brady never actually danced, though, if I recall correctly. He called Ghosty on a double dance technicality. Yes-no? Correct. In his defense, King Kong is a old fashioned guy who admits enjoying to "kick pooping dogs". Dances with Akbars is just not a thing in his Bling Blong Brady-verse.  |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 13, 2018 20:35:57 GMT
If there was an Academy Award for comedy trolling you would deserve it.  |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 13, 2018 19:49:13 GMT
The premise of this thread is idiotic beyond belief, not surprising considering who started it. It completely ignores the context of the film itself, which makes European colonialism and the race and origins of its characters central to its themes. There is no context in which a version staring an all white cast even remotely begins to makes sense.  I am an avid history buff, including African colonialism. But I missed that point entirely. Having been to Africa several times I was less than impressed with BP. All I saw was a corny Marvelland-Africa, all with ape-grunting Africans, primitive fight rituals in a StarTrek world riding CGI-war-rhinos. And a nation cynically and unrealistically not sharing it's wealth and knowledge with the poor neighbors, but hiding it's existence behind energy shields. That is what I would call "idiotic beyond believe". That must have been written by a bunch of white comic book guy eager to get some black kid money...and guess what, it WAS. But maybe you could finally enlighten me as to what the exact colonialism point and theme of BP was - please demonstrate by referring to exact dialogue and scene. PS: I know of two real African countries that were never colonized: Liberia and Ethiopia - two nations your president would likely call shitholes. PPS: If you really think that white people were never subject to extensive colonialism and that there is no historical analogue then you might be over your head here completely (education wise). |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 13, 2018 11:13:21 GMT
as above
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 13, 2018 11:12:12 GMT
artist and entertainers tend to be more on the liberal and progessive side, it's been like that since the emanzipation of art. Being a conservative is rather a minority programm with artists, still happens.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 13, 2018 9:51:44 GMT
He's not bulletproof  He certainly appears to be in the movie.   no he doesn't, he even gets stabbed and wounded at some point.
The Atlantian myth goes that those tattoos are only water-resistent paint jobs from the magic ink of an infamous deep-water squid that Aqua once fought; the squid was notorious for maliciously coloring pale jelly fish, which had be stopped. After his defeat Aqua spared the Squid's life and as a sign of gratitude he painted those mythological tattoos on him thereby giving Aqua his superpowers.
Or it's just a myth and the tattoo needle was made from the same alloy as the weapon that wounded Aqua?
So many possibilities...
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 13, 2018 9:23:45 GMT
Serious talk, how did saving "Supe's Martha" regain Batman his humanity? He does it by shooting, stabbing, and blowing up people in the same psychotic manner he'd done everything throughout the movie. Likewise, I see you talk about Superman's arc in MoS, about how it ends with his big Superman smile. The destruction of his city and forcible murder of Zod is not means of a character arc ending with a goofy smile? enter my friend who needs it all spelled out; here we go:
See it's very simple - the film blatantly spells it out already. One needs not have studied writing theory to understand it. Maybe you can now put together the Superman arc yourself.
Btw, watch Aquaman it's arcs are a lot more simplistic and fun. Nevertheless, if you require explanatory assistance, I am here for you, always (unless they ban me, in this case please ask Salzmank).
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 12, 2018 21:35:03 GMT
Snoke and Kylo’s groupies. They were briefly mentioned in The Force Awakens. But do we see them? Because they’ve got a whole army of groupies, I guess, right down to the Stormtroopers.  Yes in Rey's dream sequence for one second, in heavy rain, very clicheed. Armed with bats and paddles. and whatnot...JJ Abrams imagination is beyond measure. Thing that annoyed people most is that Kylo is the hailed Master of the Knight of Ren and a trailed Jedi, and still he got his behind kicked by Rey several times. Maybe these guys are ancestors of the Knights that say Ni  |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 12, 2018 20:36:02 GMT
Yeah, heard as much. Really lame PG13 version for Christmas commerce.
It's like moving back into your mum's basement after living the life with some stoned supermodels.
I'd be interested the other way around though: creating R rated versions of PG13 films. Venom comes to mind with some scenes.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 12, 2018 19:21:24 GMT
but which Spiderman, seems like Sony have several iterations in the Spiderverse, down to the Spiderpig.
But seriously that would make the circle complete.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 12, 2018 17:52:31 GMT
but they were lame villains, just Stormtroopers with light sabers. I did not even realize to this point that they were not in S3. Don't miss them.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 12, 2018 15:21:40 GMT
BOOOOOOOOO!!!!!1
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 12, 2018 14:37:18 GMT
Grace says that it's better than Wonder Woman. my first impression of the film and her review are in line 95% down to the musical evaluation (a lot more that the majority of the sloppy, rushed reviews I read on RT). But this is teh point where I fundamentally disagree with Randolf. "Better" is subjective. And better how?
Better/grander action set pieces? Check Better cinematography and photography? Check Visual imagination/world building? Check Dumb fun/more entertaining? Check
But:
Narrative substance? Romantic relationship/chemestry? Message & arcs?
That is all in WW's yard, which remains the better DCEU film overall (IMO).
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 11, 2018 17:43:12 GMT
I liked her in MoS but they didn’t give her anything really to do in either BVS or JL. That was smart anyway. Well, she did snap Superman out of his post-revival rage. not to forget, she explained "Martha" to Batman, thus rescuing Superman's life and giving Batman a way to regaining his humanity by rescuing Supe's Martha. More than original Lois did. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 11, 2018 7:25:17 GMT
well, if someone with the name of MovieBob who looks the name and features a "rehireJamesGunn" hashtag "dug" Aquaman and thought it the best DC film since TDK "easily" (thus better than Watchmen, WW etc) we can finally sleep at night.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 11, 2018 6:40:58 GMT
I will definitely watch it again, for the cinematography and imaginative world building alone. However, I would strongly disagree with this being "the best since TDK", it's too play-it-save and broad for that IMO. I vastly prefer stuff like Watchmen or WW for their narrative substance. But if you are into adventures rides like Raiders, Avatar & Co this might be the apotheosis of DC films for some. How do you rate the action scenes in comparison to other DCEU movies and MCU movied? difficult to say: upper tier on general: visually improved execution over most other DCEU. You do not get another "warehouse fight" or sth iconic as Nomans-land land - but sometimes it's close (eg the "flare dive" scene, or the Italian roof-run in the trailer or final battle). Choreography is solid to great; lot of DCEU-slow motion in essential moments. Aqua actually gets his ass kicked a lot. Some of the photography and long shots action scenes are borderline genius. So, technically I would say it it sets new highs in the DCEU. |
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