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Post by Mutant 77 on Apr 7, 2020 21:23:23 GMT
It's not our universe. It's a parallel universe where the Cuban Missile Crisis went differently and involved the mutants... It's a parallel universe where a powerful mutant ruled over Egypt. It's a parallel universe where they were developing Big Robots (Sentinels) in the Seventies. It's a parallel universe where technology was far more advanced in 1999. That said, the Three Mile Island Incident could have OR COULDN'T occurred in 1979, that's fair, but we don't care because we know that X-MEN ORIGINS is set in 1983, years later. Maybe the Incident truly occurred in 1979, but it was much smaller than our counterpart. Maybe it didn't happen at all. Or maybe the destruction of the reactor in 1983 will be regarded as the "Three Mile Island Incident" of this universe and that would be cool anyway. We know that it's 1983 because: 1- Cyclops is 18 years old, as established by "Apocalypse". 2- The Weapon X project, even in the altered timeline, would be "ready to go" only in 1983. 3- The "15 years thing" since X-Men 1. It's more that the main X-men movies from First Class on are basically episodes of Ancient Aliens. Everything happens like in the real world execpt mutants were there for it. If there was a movie based in 2020, it would be Apocalypse and his four horsemen behind it. We've already had really big floods, fires, earthquakes and a virus in just the last 3 months.
You do know that none of the filmmakers pay any attention to continuity. Not even the ones that make a 2 movies in a row. They erased Origins win they made Apocalypse. So Origins happens in 1979. Apocalypse happens in 1983 because they firmly placed it in 1983. And, again, Stryker wasn't giving a specific span of time when he said 15 years.
No, mutants are not the only difference. Kennedy is a mutant. Technology in 1962 is FAR more advanced, as well as in 1973 and 1999. There are millions of differences.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Apr 7, 2020 21:22:01 GMT
LMAO he doesn't age. He changes "mutated" form for the third time in his life. Cinematic BEAST has three humanoid forms: Feline, Werewolf and Simian. The third one is Simian/Ape (The Last Stand).
He will be experimented upon in 1974 or so. By the time we see him again in 1980, he looks more "weary" and his hair are silver. Remember, they applied great facial CGI to Sir Ian for the Last Stand prologue.
William Stryker Jr. is born in 1937, like Hank McCoy.
He is 36 years old in 1973 (X-Men Origins - Vietnam sequence as well as DOFP). Danny was CGI de-aged for the Vietnam sequence indeed. He is 46 years old in "Apocalypse". Just pretend that he dyed his hair brown in the altered timeline, and kept a far better shape. That's it, man.
JEAN GREY is 6 years old in DOFP. Kinberg confirmed that the red haired child who looks up the sky and sees the arena floating in the air is HER. Case closed.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Apr 7, 2020 13:13:49 GMT
McCOY/BEAST ages much slower than regular mutants, because he has got Mystique's DNA embedded into him. Canon.
MAGNETO in the original timeline had been imprisoned for aprox. 15 years (1963-1978) and he had been the subject of various terrible and heavy experiments that kinda "ruined" his aging. Like Mutant 143 who looks much older than his age... That's why Original Timeline Magneto has white hair, among the other things.
Even LOGAN/WOLVERINE from child became a man, and then his aging started to slow. LOL, talking about growing up before. Cinematic mutants, even without healing factor and regeneration, age SLOWER and BETTER than humans. Not slower and better than Wolverine, Sabretooth or even Mystique and Beast, of course.
William Stryker Jr.: suspension of disbelief. He aged a bit better in the altered timeline. Different actor anyway.
I repeat: the continuity works. My timelines are 100% perfect, no flaws. Have a good read.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Apr 6, 2020 22:20:21 GMT
Evil Dazzie:
Don't be angry. I don't think you're a loser or a moron, just a terminal crazy who suffers for his severe bipolarism and messes his life up. We can work it out anyway. I know, your life is painful and you struggle to think coherently. I feel sorry for you, actually.
Ororo is an accomplished thief at the beginning of "Apocalypse". She can easily pass for a 24 years old girl.
NO, you didn't read my post. The "STORM" depicted on the 'X-Men Origins' deleted scene is 7/8 years old. You don't know anything about this deleted scene, don't you? You silly kid. Well, it doesn't matter, it's not canon anyway. LOL
FIRST CLASS is set in 1962, not 1956 LMAO.
So canonical Ororo/Storm was 3 in 1962, 24 in 1983, 33 in 1992, 40 in 1999, 41 in 2000 (The Last Stand).
Jean Grey was featured on DOFP 1973, yes. Again, you're ignorant. LMAO.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Apr 6, 2020 20:42:44 GMT
Do you think Snoke was capable of thinking independently and the Emperor allowed him to be the public face of the First Order or he had no mind/soul of his own and was just a literal puppet controlled by Palpatine?
LMAO it was just a throw-away character, very derivative and lame from the start. They did not plan the return of the Emperor at all, by the time they wrote the first ugly movie of this ugly trilogy. It's just super-bad writing.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Apr 6, 2020 20:35:51 GMT
I loved all the brilliant sequences which depicted the Emperor Palpatine coming back from the grave and finally establishing his presence in the galaxy.......
..... oh no, wait. It's just mentioned in the opening titles. Okay.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Apr 6, 2020 20:27:17 GMT
RIP George Ogilvie, co-director of "Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome". The movie was an absolute masterpiece. THE MAD MAX TIMELINEmadmaxtimeline.blogspot.com
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Post by Mutant 77 on Apr 6, 2020 19:52:43 GMT
Storm in FC: she's Ororo Munroe. She was 3 in 1962. It makes sense. She is 24 in 1983. That's good. "Cyclops" in FC: just a guy with the sunglasses. A nod, not a cameo. He's not Scott. (the deleted scene of Origins involving Ororo is not canon) Cyclops was 18 years old in both 'Origins' and 'Apocalypse'. He was in high school, last year. That's so obvious. Jean Grey is an Omega-level mutant, she's PHOENIX from the birth. Her powers can activate before or after, timeline oscillations. It happened in comic books too, when she experienced the death of her little friend Annie. She was a little child. My timeline is perfect. No lies on there. What you see on-screen is CANON. It's a parallel universe, and you know it. Just study my timelines. You know the URL. Have fun, Dazzie. Hey doofus you have been saying your timelines are perfect for years, then you have to keep altering them, not to simply add new events from new movies but to improve them, including utterly throwing aside your whole Shaw is a time traveller nonsense, perfection can not be improved upon, the fact you keep having to "improve" them means they are not perfect, dingbat.
Just a guy who is a mutant, has the same hair and skin colour, frame as well as colour coordination as Scott and who WAS intended to be Scott until Singer took over the series again and retconned it out, because FC was initially thought up to be a different series not a prequel to the Singer/Ratner films.
Any in universe explanation for Jean's powers being present since birth? or you pulling out of your arse again, comics do not count if they did Storm, Iceman and Magneto would all also be Omega level mutants.
I wouldn't give your blog the time of day mate, I tried once before and you proved yourself to be a moron, still do so no thanks if I wanted to read the shit smeared ramblings of a lunatic I can go work in a mental institute, I suggest you do yourself a favour and check yourself in voluntarily before the men in the white coats come and collect you forcefully. Dazzie, Dazzie, your bipolarism just took over your mind & body again, and now I'm talking with "Evil Dazz". Okay. Right. Evil Dazz, listen to me: Comic Book Jean Grey manifested her powers as a child.
(maybe you don't read X-Men comic books; you should, they are awesome and much better than the Avengers ones)In "The Last Stand" flashback (1980), she was about 13 years old (the actress who played her was 13 years old). She looks like she manifested her powers much time before that... In the "Dark Phoenix" prologue (1975), she was about 8 years old. I guess she manifested her powers some months before. In DOFP (1973), she was 6 years old. In "Apocalypse", she was 16/17 years old. Even if it's not canon, in the deleted scene of ORIGINS, Storm looks aprox. 7/8 years old, and she already affects the weather (it starts to rain). The guy looking like Scott in FC is not Scott, just a 1-second long nod to the fans. LMAO.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Apr 6, 2020 16:02:50 GMT
Storm in FC: she's Ororo Munroe. She was 3 in 1962. It makes sense. She is 24 in 1983. That's good. "Cyclops" in FC: just a guy with the sunglasses. A nod, not a cameo. He's not Scott.
(the deleted scene of Origins involving Ororo is not canon)
Cyclops was 18 years old in both 'Origins' and 'Apocalypse'. He was in high school, last year. That's so obvious.
Jean Grey is an Omega-level mutant, she's PHOENIX from the birth. Her powers can activate before or after, timeline oscillations. It happened in comic books too, when she experienced the death of her little friend Annie. She was a little child.
My timeline is perfect. No lies on there. What you see on-screen is CANON.
It's a parallel universe, and you know it. Just study my timelines. You know the URL. Have fun, Dazzie.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Apr 6, 2020 15:12:16 GMT
10- A tragic figure turned into a jokester who cracks jokes and looks very happy about his Hulk condition. 09- Sex is bad in the Disney Universe. 8- Cigars are bad in the Disney Universe. 7- No problems, no personal issues, no Marvel. But Disney doesn't want the real Marvel to come out. 6- The Scarlet Girl doesn't look or feel like the real Black Widow anyway. 5- I guess the MCU Wolverine will talk like Professor X... 4- The new actor is ugly as hell. 3- AC/DC are evil, says Disney. 2- Hitler is evil, but he doesn't deserve that treatment. Rainbows everywhere. 1- No sex. Just multidiversity and LGBT rights, but no sex.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Apr 6, 2020 14:50:43 GMT
Dazzy, Dazzy, Dazzy, you're a deranged nerd/misfit. We cannot truly help you at all. Your clear bipolarism is not our cup of tea. "There it is the Island, Three Mile Island, hiding in plain sight, no one is going to snoop around a nuclear reactor, they think it's going to turn them into freaks" - still, it's not a confirmation or a denial. It's 15 years since 1983. Origins is set in 1983, not 1979. Cyclops is 18 years old. End of the story. X1 is set in 1998 or 1999, of course I pick 1999. TheGuy kinda agrees with me. That's the problem with using real world events for background in the movies. They used the Three Mile Island accident as a point to mark when the movie takes place. That happened in the beginning of 1979. Not 1983. Can't use a real world even then change it for a movie so the timeline works. And they didn't change it. It's not our universe. It's a parallel universe where the Cuban Missile Crisis went differently and involved the mutants... It's a parallel universe where a powerful mutant ruled over Egypt. It's a parallel universe where they were developing Big Robots (Sentinels) in the Seventies. It's a parallel universe where technology was far more advanced in 1999. That said, the Three Mile Island Incident could have OR COULDN'T occurred in 1979, that's fair, but we don't care because we know that X-MEN ORIGINS is set in 1983, years later. Maybe the Incident truly occurred in 1979, but it was much smaller than our counterpart. Maybe it didn't happen at all. Or maybe the destruction of the reactor in 1983 will be regarded as the "Three Mile Island Incident" of this universe and that would be cool anyway. We know that it's 1983 because: 1- Cyclops is 18 years old, as established by "Apocalypse". 2- The Weapon X project, even in the altered timeline, would be "ready to go" only in 1983. 3- The "15 years thing" since X-Men 1.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Apr 5, 2020 20:54:24 GMT
As simple as that:
First Class: 1962 X-Men Origins: 1983 X-Men: 1999 X2: 1999 The Last Stand: 2000 The Wolverine: 2008 Days of Future Past: 2023
Logan is set in 2029, alternate universe. Deadpool and Deadpool 2 are set in 2016-2018, alternate universe.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Apr 5, 2020 20:34:55 GMT
God, how damn bad is "The Last Jedi"...
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Post by Mutant 77 on Apr 5, 2020 20:33:10 GMT
Dazz is a deranged bipolar. Here we go LMAO.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Apr 5, 2020 20:20:40 GMT
Dazzy, Dazzy, Dazzy, you're a deranged nerd/misfit. We cannot truly help you at all. Your clear bipolarism is not our cup of tea.
"There it is the Island, Three Mile Island, hiding in plain sight, no one is going to snoop around a nuclear reactor, they think it's going to turn them into freaks" - still, it's not a confirmation or a denial.
It's 15 years since 1983. Origins is set in 1983, not 1979. Cyclops is 18 years old. End of the story.
X1 is set in 1998 or 1999, of course I pick 1999.
TheGuy kinda agrees with me.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Apr 5, 2020 12:27:35 GMT
I hope "The New Mutants" will add more backstory to this timeline...
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Post by Mutant 77 on Apr 5, 2020 12:24:58 GMT
It's because they decided on a storytelling device that they immediately broke. They didn't want to lock it down in a specific year. And 50-60 years is right in the scope of not too distant future. The distant future would have made it look like Valarian. Years later is too short a time. Not too distant just feels like a long time from now, but not too far away.
If they wanted it in a time beyond the present they would have shown that in everyday tech. Everything looked very modern besides the stuff that the X-men had.
Not really when the events in the movie are depicting human/mutants lives, going from 13 year old Eric to 70 year old Eric is not the not too distant future on a character scale, which is what that was showing, if someone told you hey lend me some money I will pay you back in the not too distant future, would you even for a moment consider they mean they will pay you back in 60 years time?
To me it always made sense it was saying it was taking place a little further along than our own current time period, they way you see it just seems off to me, then again it's the FoX-Men movies none of this shit makes sense, X2 and Origins fuck this up even worse, the 15 years thing, Origins sets the events of the Weapon X programme in 1979, so if you take Stryker at his word that puts X2 taking place in 1994 stupid lazy timeline horseshit  
It wasn't 1979. The infamous Three Mile Island Accident had already happened in the past, according to Gambit. In fact, Stryker chose the place because people were scared and stayed away from it, making it the perfect "cover up" for their experiments. As simple as that, the TMI accident was not so dramatic or heavy like in our universe, and they could build an headquarters in there with no radiation problems. "Apocalypse" was even more clear about it via Cyclops' age and the Weapon X experiment happening again. So: 1983.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Apr 4, 2020 23:22:28 GMT
Well, Wolverine, Xavier and Stryker say "aprox. 15 years" (along those lines). 1999 is the year when they filmed the movie. That said, "The Last Stand" is set 1 year since X2. 2000. Another important plot point: Logan/Wolverine in DOFP claimed that the X-Men fought Magneto for "many years". That makes sense. Wolverine joined the X-Men in 1999. The Last Stand is set in 2000. Magneto gained his powers back in 2001. The X-Men disbanded 1 year before "The Wolverine" (set in 2008). From 2001 to 2006, the X-Men fought Magneto. Did you know that Bryan Singer is the main reason the continuity is all screwed? He's the one that said that he didn't think that people would pay attention to the goings on in the movies. The X-men have been going after Magneto even before Logan showed up.
Doesn't Stryker say "How long has it been? 15 years?" Doesn't sound like an approximation. More like he's guessing and rounding off in the moment.
Sounds like an approximation. As well as when Xavier says that. It doesn't matter anyway. 1998 or 1999, my point is still 100% valid. It's the "future" from the FIRST CLASS perspective. It's a retcon, of course. Well, it works. There's no big error in the continuity, once you pick the altered timeline movies as reference and once you assume that there "double" characters (clones, relatives or mutants with similar powers). It's nice.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Apr 4, 2020 15:55:53 GMT
X-Men fans united!
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Post by Mutant 77 on Apr 4, 2020 15:52:50 GMT
My timelines are perfect. Placing the Last Stand Prologue in 1980 fits with Jean Grey's personal timeline established in "Apocalypse" and "Dark Phoenix" (as well as in DOFP - her cameo as child). And we know that the prologue is set 20 years before "The Last Stand", of course. Likely, Cyclops is 18 years old in 1983, and he is featured (as a 18 years old kid) in X-Men Origins too. "X-Men" is set aprox. 15 years after the Weapon X project, as simple as that. 1999. The mainstream X-Men universe is more technologically advanced than ours... I mean, they have clones in 1983. See First Class: they have a much more advanced technology in 1962. My timelines are perfect. They are regarded as canonical by thousands and thousands of persons all around the globe, buddy. Enjoy.
Also, how can you say approximately 15 years later from 1983 and then say 1999? By my calculations, 15 year later would be 1998, right?
The only thing I disagree with dazz on is the "Not too distant future" part because it's a story element within the movie. If the movie started out with that scene saying "The not too distant future" then it would be from our perspective in time. But by starting at a point in time then saying the not too distant future, then it would be from that point in time.
Well, Wolverine, Xavier and Stryker say "aprox. 15 years" (along those lines). 1999 is the year when they filmed the movie. That said, "The Last Stand" is set 1 year since X2. 2000. Another important plot point: Logan/Wolverine in DOFP claimed that the X-Men fought Magneto for "many years". That makes sense. Wolverine joined the X-Men in 1999. The Last Stand is set in 2000. Magneto gained his powers back in 2001. The X-Men disbanded 1 year before "The Wolverine" (set in 2008). From 2001 to 2006, the X-Men fought Magneto.
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