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Post by Mutant 77 on Oct 6, 2021 22:01:02 GMT
They did not pierce/drill Logan's skull at all. In the XCU, only super-heated Adamantium can cut cold Adamantium (see Silver Samurai in "The Wolverine"). As simple as that, Stryker's Adamantium bullets hit Wolverine's skull very hard, to the point that the massive concussion damaged Wolverine's brain inside. www.thegomezfirm.com/memory-loss-after-a-concussion/On the X-ray that they did on Wolverine at the school (see X1), you can see that his Adamantium skull is indeed intact. No hole. Besides, they shot Wolverine's forefront in X2, and the bullet hit Adamantium as well. Didn't an Adamantium bullet kill X-24?
I remember that X-24's skeleton was normal, only his claws were coated with Adamantium? Same as Laura/X-23.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Oct 5, 2021 21:55:17 GMT
They did not pierce/drill Logan's skull at all. In the XCU, only super-heated Adamantium can cut cold Adamantium (see Silver Samurai in "The Wolverine"). As simple as that, Stryker's Adamantium bullets hit Wolverine's skull very hard, to the point that the massive concussion damaged Wolverine's brain inside. www.thegomezfirm.com/memory-loss-after-a-concussion/On the X-ray that they did on Wolverine at the school (see X1), you can see that his Adamantium skull is indeed intact. No hole. Besides, they shot Wolverine's forefront in X2, and the bullet hit Adamantium as well. |
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Post by Mutant 77 on Oct 5, 2021 21:43:44 GMT
I like the original MCU Pietro. Evan Peters Quicksilver was entertaining only for limited amounts. He wasn't a character I wanted to get to know more of outside of his few cool slowmo scenes. MCU Pietro was a lot more interesting and was not OP as f*ck. Generally speaking, Quicksilver is a great character, and I'm glad that we got two main versions of him.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Oct 5, 2021 18:25:25 GMT
I think either Famke and Sophie depicted her as an apparently "quiet" but deeply fascinating and mysterious character. They did a superb job with her, as well as the screenplayers. Sure, that was the intent, but the execution of that intent ended up just giving us two boring versions. Sophie's especially. Ask the casual movie audience and the only Jean Grey they'll know is probably the one from X-men animated series. I don't agree at all. The execution for both the versions was very powerful, X1 apart (where she was still "quiet"). It was a very complex character. And mind you, she was heavily featured on X2, 'The Last Stand' and 'Dark Phoenix', so casual movie audience will always remember the movie version.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Oct 5, 2021 17:20:57 GMT
Fox mishandled Jean Grey. She was portrayed as just way too damn boring. That said, they at least handled her better than Rogue or Storm. I think either Famke and Sophie depicted her as an apparently "quiet" but deeply fascinating and mysterious character. They did a superb job with her, as well as the screenplayers.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Oct 3, 2021 21:33:03 GMT
Nothing can beat DREAM MASTER.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Oct 2, 2021 12:29:10 GMT
So far, we got 4 live-action Quicksilvers.
1- The clone of Peter Maximoff created by Project WideAwake, seen in X-Men Origins: Wolverine.
Future member of the second generation of X-Men in the original timeline: Cyclops; Jean Grey; Storm; Beast; Emma Silverfox; Quicksilver (clone); Banshee (clone).
2- The real Peter Maximoff in the X-Men Beginnings saga.
3- The MCU Pietro Maximoff.
4- Ralph Bohner, the fake Quicksilver created by Agatha Harkness in WandaVision.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Sept 30, 2021 23:00:01 GMT
Great movie, despite the reduced length and a bit lackluster middle section. Great acting performances from anyone involved, especially Sophie Turner. Terrific final battle (New York + the Train), very original and exciting.
Underrated gem.
8/10 by sure.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Sept 30, 2021 22:53:14 GMT
People keep underrating the figure of Jean Grey in the XCU. Jean Grey was a lead character in the movie franchise, even more than Mystique.
We got:
X-Men: she was involved with Wolverine and seemed the "centerpiece" of the X-Men, despite being the less powerful member.
X2: she started to morph into Phoenix, and was given even more screentime along with Storm. Her death at the end was pivotal.
The Last Stand: like it or not, she was the main villain of the movie, and she was menacing.
Apocalypse: she became the "Jean Grey" from the comics, and she was already Phoenix (even if she didn't know it).
Dark Phoenix: it was a great movie, and she was absolutely the main character.
Her brief cameos on The Wolverine and Days of Future Past were also significant.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Sept 30, 2021 22:49:29 GMT
More feedback, please.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Sept 30, 2021 14:47:30 GMT
Hopefully, "Generation X" will be released on blu-ray or UHD.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Sept 29, 2021 23:48:49 GMT
I always thought it was odd Apocalypse was the "first mutant", humans have been around for about 200,000 years, it wouldn't make much sense for the first mutant to appear around 7000 years ago
True. It's weird. I think it's much more plausible to think Wolverine - born in the 19th century - as one of the first mutants.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Sept 29, 2021 23:25:15 GMT
I made some tweaks here and there.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Sept 29, 2021 0:46:54 GMT
Visit: x-continuity.blogspot.com
The Original Timeline
5000 BC: En Sabah Nur arrives in Egypt with his Four Horsemen (DOFP post-credits scene).
3600 BC: En Sabah Nur is defeated.
1832: James Howlett is born.
1845: Victor Logan and James Howlett escape from home.
1932: Charles Xavier is born.
1934: Raven Darkhölme is born.
1938: William Stryker Jr. is born.
1944: Erik Magnus Lehnsherr hold at the concentration camp.
1945: James Logan operates in Japan.
1953: Jason Stryker is born.
1959: Ororo Munroe is born.
1962: X-Men: First Class
1963: Magneto is captured. The Brotherhood of Mutants disband.
1965: Emma Silverfox is born, a clone of Emma Frost created by Project WideAwake/Essex Corp.
1968: Mortimer Toynbee Jr. is born, son of the first Toad.
1972: Sean Cassidy II is born, a clone created by Project WideAwake/Essex Corp.
1973: James Logan deserts New York and embarks on a final war tour. James Logan and Victor Creed are then recruited by Stryker in Vietnam. Meanwhile, Mystique kills Bolivar Trask.
1975: Peter Maximoff II is born, a clone created by Project WideAwake/Essex Corp. Affected by accelerated growth.
1977: After years, James Logan leaves Team X. Jason Stryker is cryogenized.
1978: Magneto escapes (or is freed) and finally joins Xavier. They start working together again. Xavier takes a new serum which doesn't inhibit his mutant powers, but brings several collateral effects on the long term.
1979: "The Last Stand" Prologue. Xavier and Magneto recruit Jean Grey.
1983: X-Men Origins: Wolverine. The Weapon X Project occurs.
1989: Warren Worthington III's childhood flashback.
1991: The X-Men finally reform - Cyclops, Storm, Jean Grey/Marvel Girl, Beast, Havok, Emma Silverfox/White Queen.
1996: Beast, Havok and Emma Silverfox leave the team, and the remaining X-Men temporarily stop their activity.
1999: X-Men ("Future time" from a First Class perspective). Wolverine joins the X-Men.
1999: X2
2000: X-Men: The Last Stand
2001: Magneto regains his powers.
2002: The X-Men fights Magneto again, as hinted by Wolverine in DOFP.
2007: The X-Men disband. Logan disappears.
2008: The Wolverine
2010: "The Wolverine" Post-Credits sequence.
2023: The DOFP Bleak Future.
The New Timeline
5000 BC: En Sabah Nur arrives in Egypt with his Four Horsemen (DOFP post-credits scene).
3600 BC: En Sabah Nur is defeated.
1832: James Howlett is born.
1845: Victor Logan and James Howlett escape from home.
1932: Charles Xavier is born.
1934: Raven Darkhölme is born.
1938: William Stryker Jr. is born.
1944: Erik Magnus Lehnsherr hold at the concentration camp.
1945: James Logan operates in Japan.
1953: Jason Stryker is born.
1959: Ororo Munroe is born.
1962: X-Men: First Class
1963: Magneto is captured. The Brotherhood of Mutants disband.
1965: Emma Silverfox is born, a clone of Emma Frost created by Project WideAwake/Essex Corp.
1968: Mortimer Toynbee Jr. is born, son of the first Toad.
1972: Sean Cassidy II is born, a clone created by Project WideAwake/Essex Corp.
1973: X-Men: Days of Future Past. Mystique frees Logan.
1975: Xavier adopts Jean Grey some time after the car crash.
1982: The British mutant Archangel (not Warren) operates in Germany. Logan is finally captured by Stryker and turned into "Weapon X".
1983: X-Men: Apocalypse. The X-Men reform - Cyclops, Mystique, J. Grey/Phoenix, Beast, Nightcrawler, Quicksilver, M. MacTaggert.
1992: Dark Phoenix
1997: Emma Silverfox/Frost quits Russel Tresh's project and facility.
2002: Generation X. Featuring Emma Silverfox/Frost and Banshee II.
2008: The New Mutants
2023: The DOFP New Future.
Alternate Universes:
The Rogue Cut (2023)
Deadpool (2016-2018)
Legion
Logan (2029)
The Gifted
Some dimensions Deadpool visited at the end of "Deadpool 2".
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Post by Mutant 77 on Sept 25, 2021 0:30:06 GMT
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Post by Mutant 77 on Sept 24, 2021 20:34:41 GMT
Why not?
Emma Frost is Emma Silverfox, now going by her original template's surname. She has been created in 1965, so the time travel in DOFP did not alter her birth.
Sean Cassidy is the clone of the original Banshee, who already appeared on ORIGINS (set in 1983). He has been created before 1973 as well.
The entire movie could be set in 2002 or so, some time before "The New Mutants" (set in 2008), in an time where Xavier and the X-Men were far from the school for some reason.
Jubilee could be the very same Jubilee from X1/X2/X3, related to the original Jubilee seen in "Apocalypse" (set in 1983).
I never watched the TV movie, so I don't know if any detail or event or character on it contradicts the mainstream X-Men timeline. Hopefully not. Tell me if that is the case.
GENERATION X:
Jubilee
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Mondo
Skin
Buff
Refrax
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Post by Mutant 77 on Sept 24, 2021 20:18:30 GMT
THIS FEELS..... delicious.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Sept 24, 2021 20:17:58 GMT
...on Disney+, Netflix, Hulu or whatever.
Where could I find some rating figures for them in terms of audience and share?
Thank you.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Sept 22, 2021 19:04:34 GMT
We all know that there were young mutants in the Island facility at the end of "X-Men Origins: Wolverine".
More specifically:
"Gambit, Cyclops, and Emma were the only credited prisoners of Striker's Island. However, fans have speculated who the other prisoners might be: Quicksilver (white-haired boy who violently thrashes in his cage while bound by elastic straps), Banshee (teen with tape over his mouth), Toad (a boy with an amphibious tongue), Psylocke (an East Asian girl with blue and purple streaks in her hair), Whirlwind (young man spinning as a tornado in his cage, however, other fans believe this to be Riptide), Dust (South Asian girl seen frozen in her cage)."
I know that Origins wasn't filmed with First Class in mind, but let's pretend for a moment that the movies are perfectly lined-up and wired-up in the same continuity, okay? Let's imagine. Thanks.
Origins is set in 1983. "Apocalypse" indeed established Cyclops's age in an undeniable manner. He was 18 in 1983.
The spinning guy must be Whirlwind, because we already got Riptide operating in 1962 (First Class).
The "Psylocke" version must be the very same one we "later" meet in "The Last Stand" (set in 2000). She's Kwannon. Forget the LS end credits, she's not Psylocke, because we already got the real Psylocke in the altered timeline's 1983 (Apocalypse).
So my wild guess is that Emma Silverfox is Emma Frost's clone created by William Stryker Jr. in the sixties (DOFP established that Emma Frost was captured and killed) and later adopted by Mr. Silverfox, Kayla's father. Adoptive sibling.
The teen versions of Quicksilver and Banshee are clones too, of course. The real Banshee (First Class) was killed by Stryker in the sixties, while the real Quicksilver (DOFP) could have been killed by Team X down the line too, and that would explain why 2023 Wolverine knew about him and knew about his home address.
Thus, basically, we can imagine that Xavier recruited Emma Silverfox, Quicksilver II and Banshee II as X-Men, and they belonged to the second generation (along with Beast), operating many years before the first movie. Beast, Emma, Quicksilver and Banshee departed some time before, leaving Cyclops, Storm and Jean alone.
I don't think that they are "mutants with similar powers". Ironically speaking, and that's truly cool if you ask me, Stryker's secret files in X2 list two "Cassidys" and two "Maximoffs", without specifically mentioning their birthnames. Retroactive continuity, we can assume that the computer files referred to the clones.
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Post by Mutant 77 on Sept 21, 2021 16:45:36 GMT
I have to disagree with you. APOCALYPSE was a brilliant and epic superhero movie, and the quintessential X-Men movie to date. DARK PHOENIX was a great movie with soul and heart, despite its flaws. Cyclops was extremely cool in DP, for instance. And its OK that we disagree. But I have to point out that for someone who is supposed to be Jean Greys main love interest Cyclops does very little in the movie. I really don't see how you can say he was so cool in that movie. He doesn't do much. IMO Cyclops should be one of the top three leads in any X-Men movie, not just a supporting character, as he has been so far. I guess that the MCU X-Men would easily fix that. He will be the leader. And I must say that, from an action standpoint, Cyclops had very cool scenes in Apocalypse and - most of all - Dark Phoenix (especially in the final battle). In Dark Phoenix, he displayed his power in a fine way. On the other hand, I know what you mean, and yes, I guess that the MCU will fix it.
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