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Post by kls on Feb 19, 2019 23:39:18 GMT
Winning what??? I don't get it. Well, I don't get your point either, so that I guess makes us even. What you're not getting is my goal was just to share my opinion, not to make a point or tell anyone else he or she is right or wrong.
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Post by ant-mac on Feb 19, 2019 23:40:33 GMT
I had several sexual partners and at least one child that I know of, but I've never had pre-marital sex...
Because I never had any intention of getting married.
A piece of paper is a guarantee and a proof of precisely nothing. If you need one for some sort of sense of security, you're seriously deluding yourself.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Feb 19, 2019 23:43:35 GMT
...I think there was that one time... hmmmm Because I wanted to be top, instead of bottom one time. I am not coming home tonight mister!
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Post by BATouttaheck on Feb 19, 2019 23:45:08 GMT
Stop saying huh. You sound uneducated. yah .. show your education .. say "BUMP UGLIES" like us really educated people do !
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Post by kls on Feb 19, 2019 23:55:10 GMT
What you're not getting is my goal was just to share my opinion, not to make a point or tell anyone else he or she is right or wrong. My goal was to share my opinion too, as if everyone here. Don't expect that others are going to buy into it though. If it gets challenged, you then act like you don't know what they are talking about. That is denial. People ARE going to push what they see as wrongheaded or misappropriated comments. The secret is in the delivery. I don't need anyone to buy into my opinion. I'm not debating. That's what I'm not getting. People acting as if I was debating or expecting anyone to buy into my opinion.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Feb 19, 2019 23:58:17 GMT
I didn't know my thread would cause such heated discussions/debates. The issue for most people seems to be the title of the thread. Everyone seems to be objecting to the term pre-marital because people may not ever plan to marry. Maybe you should have said "sex outside of marriage", though that would probably still cause the same problems for people..."casual sex" perhaps, but that has other specific implications as well...
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Post by kls on Feb 20, 2019 0:01:26 GMT
I don't need anyone to buy into my opinion. I'm not debating. But don't expect others to feel the same way about why they are on here commenting and if they retort to anything you say. Who is expecting anyone to feel the same way? So I say something you can retort, but it isn't appropriate to respond to it?
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Post by BATouttaheck on Feb 20, 2019 0:05:44 GMT
No matter how the thread was titled or the original post was phrased, someone, somehow would manage to either object to it as it stands, mis-interpret its intention or for the fun of it, turn it into a war of words and nitpickery.
Have seen simple "kitten" threads get torn up by such tactics. Amazing that this one lasted on topic as long as it did !
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Feb 20, 2019 0:22:59 GMT
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Post by kls on Feb 20, 2019 0:26:51 GMT
Who is expecting anyone to feel the same way? So I say something you retort, but it isn't appropriate to respond to it? You are not making sense, which seems to be part of your game.
This is what you said k: Just because YOU don't need anyone to buy into YOUR opinion and YOU are not debating, doesn't mean that others may not question what YOUR opinion is and YOUR intention—which is everything—behind why YOU said what YOU did and what the point is YOU are making. If YOU don't want anyone to retort—or in your case, it appears you only want congenial responses—don't say anything at all then.
If I wasn't congenial myself or coming out poking at other's opinions who hadn't responded to me this would have much more weight to it. It's not like I'm whining I was attacked, just saying this wasn't a debate thread. It was a what is your view thread. You're coming at me over nothing I just took as out of place.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Feb 20, 2019 0:29:48 GMT
WAS being the operational word ! now just OT
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Post by kls on Feb 20, 2019 0:59:28 GMT
If I wasn't congenial myself or coming out poking at other's opinions who hadn't responded to me this would have much more weight to it. It's not like I'm whining I was attacked, just saying this wasn't a debate thread. It was a what is your view thread. You're coming at me over nothing I just took as out of place.No need for any of us to play a victim over a discussion\view\debate whatever, but have a sense of ownership about your collective responses as well. That was the consequence of your initial response of something you took out of place and based on a belief you have. What belief do I have that made me take something out of place?
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Post by kls on Feb 20, 2019 1:03:16 GMT
Your belief in God k. Are you not Christian? If you enter God into a defense for a pov or even argument, you are leaving yourself wide open. You don't appear to get this. This was why you initially misrepresented the very first post you made to me, which I made to someone else.
I have no clue what you think I misrepresented. Added a little something for clarity on the last post while you responded.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Feb 20, 2019 1:05:15 GMT
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Post by kls on Feb 20, 2019 1:06:43 GMT
I have no clue what you think I misrepresented. The comment I made to slovak at the start. Duh!
What exactly is it you are attempting to argue for now k. Your limitations. They are yours to deal with.
We've already clarified that several times. If I misinterpreted you've pointed it out umpteen times and I have given you that. I honestly don't think you know what my view on premarital sex even is. You may go back to the first page if you wish to. 3rd post.
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Post by kuatorises on Feb 20, 2019 14:09:06 GMT
Disgusting. And a crappy comparison/argument. No, it's the gist of the argument. I put it so bluntly to bring you fools out of the 19th century. Even most religious heterosexuals are not opposed to sex before marriage. Sex as a component of dating is universally accepted now. I'm talking about getting a blowjob in a bathroom stall, you slob. It's fucking gross and inconsiderate.
The crappy argument is "it's not pre-marital sex because I'm never getting married".
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Post by movieliker on Feb 20, 2019 21:46:48 GMT
I love it. And have engaged many times.
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Post by kuatorises on Feb 21, 2019 14:23:30 GMT
I'm talking about getting a blowjob in a bathroom stall, you slob. It's fucking gross and inconsiderate.
The crappy argument is "it's not pre-marital sex because I'm never getting married".
The concept is silly. It presumes that everyone will marry and knows they will marry. If you're single and have sex today and die tomorrow, it wasn't "pre-marital", now was it? It's a phony presumptive notion.
As for blow jobs in public toilets, if you can't get a stranger to make a snap decision to give you oral sex, that's your problem.
Actually, you're the one making a presumption. Not even a presumption, but a declaration. You "know" you're not getting married. LOL, okay. Your a slob.
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Post by Pep Streebeck on Feb 22, 2019 2:48:14 GMT
I always wait until marriage. These divorces are getting expensive though.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Feb 22, 2019 16:50:39 GMT
I always wait until marriage. These divorces are getting expensive though. LOL, this discussion has gone off the rails, hasn't it? I suggest changing the thread title to read 'non-marital' sex, and that should placate the people who disagree with the concept of pre-marital sex. But seriously, to the topic, I have no problem with what consenting adults choose to do. I didn't wait until marriage, and I learned a lot about relationships before making that big commitment. And once I was married, I learned that love and sex are two entirely different things. While I was being treated for cancer, my husband was my strong shoulder to lean on. But I had no desire to have sex. He was okay with that. And when he became ill a few years later, the same happened with him. We still loved each other. That never changed, thankfully. Society has evolved past the original need for marriage. People have choices now, and that's a good thing.
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