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Post by ck100 on Feb 16, 2019 21:50:40 GMT
How do you feel about it? Are you someone who has, or wants, to wait until marriage for sex? Or are you someone who would have no problem with having pre-marital sex?
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Post by mslo79 on Feb 17, 2019 0:20:49 GMT
It's really simple... God forbids it prior to legitimate marriage.
but since people are people, they tend to largely ignore it nowadays.
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Post by kls on Feb 17, 2019 2:39:21 GMT
I would never feel comfortable engaging in casual sex. That's just not for me.
I don't necessarily think sex is wrong if people aren't married, but I think a couple should have real feelings that could be called love and a potential for forever/long term commitment before engaging in it.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Feb 17, 2019 2:46:19 GMT
I am fine with Pre-Marital Sex. I don`t see anything wrong with it.
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Post by No_Socks_Here on Feb 17, 2019 3:21:22 GMT
Let's face it, none of us would ever buy a car without taking it for a test drive first.
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Post by Ass_E9 on Feb 17, 2019 3:35:30 GMT
"Kids, take it from me: Sex can wait."
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Post by kls on Feb 17, 2019 6:30:37 GMT
It's really simple... God forbids it prior to legitimate marriage. but since people are people, they tend to largely ignore it nowadays. God does not forbid it. It makes no reasonable sense to forbid it and that is why people are people and ignore it, because God's law is baloney. I don't understand. If you're saying God does not forbid it why are you calling God's law baloney (as if He is forbidding it)?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Feb 17, 2019 6:56:15 GMT
How do you feel about it? Are you someone who has, or wants, to wait until marriage for sex? Or are you someone who would have no problem with having pre-marital sex? Pre Marital sex is an ABSOLUTE MUST!!!
How the hell else would you know how to do it? How the hell else would you know you're compatible with your partner? How the hell else would you know if you want to be with that partner forever more? And how much of an ass would you feel like if you found out all of that SUCKED on your wedding night; AFTER you're locked in FOREVER?!!
Fuck no. The "saving my virginity until I'm married" mentality is for dummies brainwashed with outdated morality. I wont even date someone very long unless we're moving to that stage.
I can only imagine the inner distress of entire bygone generations of women after their first time on their wedding nights... "Five minutes, pain and discomfort, and that's it?!"
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Feb 17, 2019 6:58:16 GMT
It's really simple... God forbids it prior to legitimate marriage. but since people are people, they tend to largely ignore it nowadays. God does not forbid it. It makes no reasonable sense to forbid it and that is why people are people and ignore it, because God's law is baloney. And thank god we agree on something!
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Feb 17, 2019 6:59:38 GMT
I don't understand. If you're saying God does not forbid it why are you calling God's law baloney (as if He is forbidding it)? It was tongue in cheek k, because God's law doesn't exist. It was a "man" made law, disguised as God's law. OH SHIT! And we keep agreeing! Hallelujah!
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Post by kls on Feb 17, 2019 7:06:31 GMT
How do you feel about it? Are you someone who has, or wants, to wait until marriage for sex? Or are you someone who would have no problem with having pre-marital sex? Pre Marital sex is an ABSOLUTE MUST!!!
How the hell else would you know how to do it? How the hell else would you know you're compatible with your partner? How the hell else would you know if you want to be with that partner forever more? And how much of an ass would you feel like if you found out all of that SUCKED on your wedding night; AFTER you're locked in FOREVER?!!
Fuck no. The "saving my virginity until I'm married" mentality is for dummies brainwashed with outdated morality. I wont even date someone very long unless we're moving to that stage.
I can only imagine the inner distress of entire bygone generations of women after their first time on their wedding nights... "Five minutes, pain and discomfort, and that's it?!"
I'm really not so sure a ho hum first time with someone means you could never be compatible. Communication about what you both like would probably mean an enjoyable sex life with time and more experience with each other (if the relationship is otherwise worth it and the couple pays enough attention to learn).
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Feb 17, 2019 7:15:07 GMT
Pre Marital sex is an ABSOLUTE MUST!!!
How the hell else would you know how to do it? How the hell else would you know you're compatible with your partner? How the hell else would you know if you want to be with that partner forever more? And how much of an ass would you feel like if you found out all of that SUCKED on your wedding night; AFTER you're locked in FOREVER?!!
Fuck no. The "saving my virginity until I'm married" mentality is for dummies brainwashed with outdated morality. I wont even date someone very long unless we're moving to that stage.
I can only imagine the inner distress of entire bygone generations of women after their first time on their wedding nights... "Five minutes, pain and discomfort, and that's it?!"
I'm really not so sure a ho hum first time with someone means you could never be compatible. Communication about what you both like would probably mean an enjoyable sex life with time and more experience with each other (if the relationship is otherwise worth it and the couple pays enough attention to learn). But if you ultimately decide you're not compatible... TOOO BAAADDD!!!! You're already married!!! Now DEATH has to do you part. Enjoy!
And as to your other point about "casual" sex... There's nothing casual about it. I take sex absolutely 100% seriously. Questions asked, condoms used, feelings explored, and plans to see you again made. I never said one should be a slut.
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Post by kls on Feb 17, 2019 7:18:29 GMT
I'm really not so sure a ho hum first time with someone means you could never be compatible. Communication about what you both like would probably mean an enjoyable sex life with time and more experience with each other (if the relationship is otherwise worth it and the couple pays enough attention to learn). But if you ultimately decide you're not compatible... TOOO BAAADDD!!!! You're already married!!! Now DEATH has to do you part. Enjoy!
And as to your other point about "casual" sex... There's nothing casual about it. I take sex absolutely 100% seriously. Questions asked, condoms used, feelings explored, and plans to see you again made. I never said one should be a slut.
But I never called anybody a slut. What works for me works for me. What works for others they can go with.
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Post by Nora on Feb 17, 2019 8:58:02 GMT
I see marriage as a largely technical social construct that doesnt really serve the function it had originally (when women has limited rights and freedoms and very deminished value if unmarried)
so in my ideal world marriage wouldnt really exist or matter so sex before or after question wouldnt matter.
in this world - yes by all means engage in sex before marriage and see what you like and if you really click with that person on physical level as well as ok emotional one. those two can be very different.
all you need to know is - you might be with that person for a very long time, it would be nice if you liked having sex with them. and its Not guaranteed just because u like them as friends or companions.
i would also strongly recommend sleeping with more than one person before getting married.
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Post by kls on Feb 17, 2019 11:20:13 GMT
But I never called anybody a slut. What works for me works for me. What works for others they can go with. So what works for you is God's law then k? Not sure where that's coming from.
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Post by kls on Feb 17, 2019 11:42:11 GMT
Not sure where that's coming from. You questioned a point I made earlier about God's law being non-existent and having nothing to do with pre-marital sex. You appeared to miss the context of it, so I answered it and didn't get a reply. I got the impression that you do feel that it is God's law. Was this your point or intention behind your earlier question to me? If not, some clarity on your pov would clear it up perhaps. I didn't realize you meant to be to tongue in cheek as you later replied. I just meant to say your first comment sounded contradictory when I tool it literally. can't say what God's law is without Him defining what he means by the phrase 'adultery'. I take that as being unfaithful within a marriage. I don't even know that He has a law regarding pre marital sex.
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Post by kls on Feb 17, 2019 11:55:39 GMT
I didn't realize you meant to be to tongue in cheek as you later replied. I can't say what God's law is without Him defining what he means by the phrase 'adultery'. I take that as being unfaithful within a marriage. I am not sure how you could have missed the tongue in cheek sarcasm in my reply to slovak, but whatever.
The discussion here is pre-marital sex, not adultery. Not sure why you brought that up. But whether it be pre-marital sex, or sex within marriage, how and where could God define it, if it is his law?
I brought the word adultery up because that word is used when God's law is cited (10 commandments) rather than pre marital sex. Respectfully I am not sure how you could have missed the reason for that.
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Post by kls on Feb 17, 2019 12:14:18 GMT
I brought the word adultery up because that word is used when God's law is cited (10 commandments) rather than pre marital sex. Respectfully I am not sure how you could have missed the reason for that. k, I am not religious, I think you know that. I often question comments made by posters who use God's law as sounding board, when it is ultimately hollow and has no basis for a reasonable point or argument.
From my understanding, you are Christian\Catholic, so I made an assumption that you are\were in defense of God's law on pre-marital sex. Isn't that what being religious is, following your God's law and endorsing and\or enforcing it?
So what is God's law on premarital sex? Maybe we're thinking of different things because I'm thinking of the commandments.
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Post by kls on Feb 17, 2019 12:17:49 GMT
So what is God's law on premarital sex? You tell me. You are the religious one and believe in the Catholic God. I added a bit while you were typing. Again, I'm thinking on the scale of the commandments.
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Post by kls on Feb 17, 2019 12:20:38 GMT
So what is God's law on premarital sex? Maybe we're thinking of different things because I'm thinking of the commandments. What makes the commandments God's law? I wouldn't even know how to answer that besides saying if one believes in the Judeo-Christian God that's what His main admonishments are according to the Bible. If one doesn't believe it wouldn't be relevant to him or her.
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