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Post by CrepedCrusader on Apr 28, 2020 17:44:39 GMT
[Note: not necessarily bands that you think are good, but bands that at least for a while we're "big" commercially.]
My lick has to be Creed. I actually don't hate Creed like it seems the rest of the world does, but man were their videos pretty much all bad.
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Post by darknessfish on Apr 30, 2020 9:40:26 GMT
I love Front 242, but their videos, especially the ones directed by Anton Corbijn, are pretty damned terrible. Can't get access to youtube at the moment, but I'll supply a link.
Every hair-metal video is likely to be a contender, too.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Apr 30, 2020 16:16:41 GMT
Any 80s rock and/or metal band with a video that features any combo of cages, fire, big cats, prehistoric or medieval clothing, swords, or lasers shot from guitars.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Apr 30, 2020 17:13:12 GMT
I don't know about "big," but Infant Annihilator's videos are pretty hilarious because of how bad they are (I think they're intentionally that way):
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Post by NJtoTX on Apr 30, 2020 20:38:43 GMT
Jefferson Starship.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Apr 30, 2020 21:30:20 GMT
Those "candid" life-on-the-road videos are usually pretty terrible and I seems making one of those is a rite of passage for most bands.
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Post by NJtoTX on Apr 30, 2020 21:50:13 GMT
Then there was this career killer.
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Post by stefancrosscoe on May 6, 2020 21:56:52 GMT
Foo Fighters music is utter shite, but their videos are even worse. I wont go as far as shite, but they seem to fit right in with the category of being a very solid and popular "radio" band, and I do enjoy some of their singles. But sadly none of their albums have really done much for me, no matter how great reviews they tend to get, they just include far too much fillers, and not enough "killers", so maybe a best of CD is more fitting, than ending up with a bunch of records, I might play once, or twice because of one or two songs, but skip the rest. However, they have some really good album tracks, and where I think My Poor Brain from their 1997 release Foo Fighters is among the more impressive, and not sure if it was given a single release, or a music video, but it has that great party feel to it, which is always a good thing, or so I like to think.
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Post by Admin on May 6, 2020 22:37:36 GMT
Tool.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on May 6, 2020 23:05:26 GMT
Surely you jest! Their stop-motion animation stuff is awesome!
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Post by Admin on May 6, 2020 23:47:52 GMT
Surely you jest! Their stop-motion animation stuff is awesome! They're boring, they go nowhere, they have little to nothing to do with the songs themselves, and they're all pretty much the same. Yawn. I'd rather just mute some Road Runner cartoons to accompany the music. Some of the fan-made videos are cool, though. Tool ain't really Tool anymore anyway. Now it's the Danny Carey Band.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on May 7, 2020 19:31:40 GMT
Surely you jest! Their stop-motion animation stuff is awesome! They're boring, they go nowhere, they have little to nothing to do with the songs themselves, and they're all pretty much the same. Yawn. I'd rather just mute some Road Runner cartoons to accompany the music. Some of the fan-made videos are cool, though. Tool ain't really Tool anymore anyway. Now it's the Danny Carey Band. Can't imagine anyone could find such visually imaginative, creative, and evocative videos "boring," but I'm a huge fan of the Quay Brothers and Jan Svenkmajer and they similarly do that dark, weird, sensuous stop-motion animation. They "go nowhere" because they're not really stories, and they're mostly just meant to be evocative of the song's aesthetics, not lyrical content. They also all seem quite different to me, at least as different as the songs themselves. Also don't get the notion that they're the "Danny Carey Band" now. FI is not radically different from 10kD or Lateralus. Carey has always been integral to the band's sound and success, but all the members have their moments to shine on FI. 7empest may be the best showcase of Jones's talent on any Tool album; Pneuma is primarily driven by that Chancellor bass riff; and Culling Voices and Descending almost sound like MJK side-projects as much as classic Tool. Yeah, Carey's creativity is all over those songs too, but no more/less so than the rest of the band, and no more/less so than on previous albums. He's always been their most talented member.
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Post by Admin on May 7, 2020 20:25:24 GMT
They're boring, they go nowhere, they have little to nothing to do with the songs themselves, and they're all pretty much the same. Yawn. I'd rather just mute some Road Runner cartoons to accompany the music. Some of the fan-made videos are cool, though. Tool ain't really Tool anymore anyway. Now it's the Danny Carey Band. Can't imagine anyone could find such visually imaginative, creative, and evocative videos "boring," but I'm a huge fan of the Quay Brothers and Jan Svenkmajer and they similarly do that dark, weird, sensuous stop-motion animation. They "go nowhere" because they're not really stories, and they're mostly just meant to be evocative of the song's aesthetics, not lyrical content. They also all seem quite different to me, at least as different as the songs themselves. Also don't get the notion that they're the "Danny Carey Band" now. FI is not radically different from 10kD or Lateralus. Carey has always been integral to the band's sound and success, but all the members have their moments to shine on FI. 7empest may be the best showcase of Jones's talent on any Tool album; Pneuma is primarily driven by that Chancellor bass riff; and Culling Voices and Descending almost sound like MJK side-projects as much as classic Tool. Yeah, Carey's creativity is all over those songs too, but no more/less so than the rest of the band, and no more/less so than on previous albums. He's always been their most talented member. Did you happen to catch the FI tour? It's the Danny Carey Show, and I don't mean to say like that it's a bad thing.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on May 7, 2020 20:43:25 GMT
Can't imagine anyone could find such visually imaginative, creative, and evocative videos "boring," but I'm a huge fan of the Quay Brothers and Jan Svenkmajer and they similarly do that dark, weird, sensuous stop-motion animation. They "go nowhere" because they're not really stories, and they're mostly just meant to be evocative of the song's aesthetics, not lyrical content. They also all seem quite different to me, at least as different as the songs themselves. Also don't get the notion that they're the "Danny Carey Band" now. FI is not radically different from 10kD or Lateralus. Carey has always been integral to the band's sound and success, but all the members have their moments to shine on FI. 7empest may be the best showcase of Jones's talent on any Tool album; Pneuma is primarily driven by that Chancellor bass riff; and Culling Voices and Descending almost sound like MJK side-projects as much as classic Tool. Yeah, Carey's creativity is all over those songs too, but no more/less so than the rest of the band, and no more/less so than on previous albums. He's always been their most talented member. Did you happen to catch the FI tour? It's the Danny Carey Show, and I don't mean to say like that it's a bad thing. Yeah, I saw them last October I think it was, and I was actually going to see them again this June, though CV will probably nix that. I mean, Carey had his drum solo, but everything else was just them doing the songs as normal (still a spectacular show though; best I've ever been to). Drum solos used to be a staple of bands' live shows. Hell, Zeppelin regularly had some that lasted 15-20 minutes!
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Post by Admin on May 7, 2020 20:52:23 GMT
Did you happen to catch the FI tour? It's the Danny Carey Show, and I don't mean to say like that it's a bad thing. Yeah, I saw them last October I think it was, and I was actually going to see them again this June, though CV will probably nix that. I mean, Carey had his drum solo, but everything else was just them doing the songs as normal (still a spectacular show though; best I've ever been to). Drum solos used to be a staple of bands' live shows. Hell, Zeppelin regularly had some that lasted 15-20 minutes! I love Tool, but their videos and their live shows bore me. Visually, they're great, but when I go to a live concert, I want live versions of the music, not the note-for-note studio versions on the CD. Yes and Rush are guilty of this, too. Sure, it's impressive that some of these bands can duplicate their studio material so faithfully on a live stage, but I don't often find myself spinning their live CDs, especially if I have them on DVD or Blu-ray.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on May 7, 2020 21:00:41 GMT
Yeah, I saw them last October I think it was, and I was actually going to see them again this June, though CV will probably nix that. I mean, Carey had his drum solo, but everything else was just them doing the songs as normal (still a spectacular show though; best I've ever been to). Drum solos used to be a staple of bands' live shows. Hell, Zeppelin regularly had some that lasted 15-20 minutes! I love Tool, but their videos and their live shows bore me. Visually, they're great, but when I go to a live concert, I want live versions of the music, not the note-for-note studio versions on the CD. Yes and Rush are guilty of this, too. Sure, it's impressive that some of these bands can duplicate their studio material so faithfully on a live stage, but I don't often find myself spinning their live CDs, especially if I have them on DVD or Blu-ray. The problem is that with music like Tool's is that it's too complex and highly structured to really improvise around. Probably the only song I could imagine being turned into improv is 7empest as it sounds like it was the product of a jam session anyway. Normally I'd agree that live I prefer to hear something different, but with Tool I think the energy of the crowd and the sheer magnitude of the sound are enough to create a very different experience. Listening to Tool's studio albums at home is like an intimate, meditative prayer; hearing them live is like attending a worship service. So even if the music is the same, the feel of it live is very different, probably more so than any other live band I've seen. I don't know if I'd want to listen to/watch a live CD/DVD of theirs, but I'll be attending any Tool concert that comes anywhere near me.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on May 7, 2020 21:01:49 GMT
Then there was this career killer. Volumes have been written about that piece of film. To be honest, his music went downhill at this time. There were lots of ghastly videos at the time. Journey's Separate Ways, Pat Benatar's Shadows of he Night. But that one took on a life of it's own. And lots of men wore pink shirts at the time (not me). It was that crawl of the floor that made me wince. It wasn't any worse than this.
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Post by Admin on May 8, 2020 6:41:14 GMT
I love Tool, but their videos and their live shows bore me. Visually, they're great, but when I go to a live concert, I want live versions of the music, not the note-for-note studio versions on the CD. Yes and Rush are guilty of this, too. Sure, it's impressive that some of these bands can duplicate their studio material so faithfully on a live stage, but I don't often find myself spinning their live CDs, especially if I have them on DVD or Blu-ray. The problem is that with music like Tool's is that it's too complex and highly structured to really improvise around. Probably the only song I could imagine being turned into improv is 7empest as it sounds like it was the product of a jam session anyway. Normally I'd agree that live I prefer to hear something different, but with Tool I think the energy of the crowd and the sheer magnitude of the sound are enough to create a very different experience. Listening to Tool's studio albums at home is like an intimate, meditative prayer; hearing them live is like attending a worship service. So even if the music is the same, the feel of it live is very different, probably more so than any other live band I've seen. I don't know if I'd want to listen to/watch a live CD/DVD of theirs, but I'll be attending any Tool concert that comes anywhere near me. Yeah. That's true. I was thinking more about the performance than actually being there. You're absolutely right about that.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 23, 2024 21:07:07 GMT
I haven't seen all of their videos, but "Separate Ways" by Journey has one of the most hilariously bad videos I've ever seen.
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