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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Mar 8, 2022 10:55:14 GMT
Note: the TF BatKeaton is supposed to be an alternate Batman, not the exact Burtonverse Batman. Joker's laughing bag in The Flash is vastly different. It's black (not green), and the recorded laugh is not the same at all. That said, the original 1989 movie was supposed to take place in the "future", 2013.
October 4th, 1961: Jack Napier is born. The birthdate on the mugshot which Max Eckhardt was spreading at Axis Chemicals must be wrong.
1975: Bruce Wayne is born.
This is the trascript of what you can read on-screen from the Police Case History Folder that Alfred gave to Bruce Wayne during his investigations:
Name: Jack Napier. Sex: Male. Address: 1379 P__ 565, Gotham City. Age: 38. __:5 ft. 8". __: Gotham. Height: 5 ft. 11". __: JN7. __:265-784. __ by: __. __: 2846287.
Assault: AC+D = __ N (8-29-76)
__: AC+D = __ A (2-16-78)
__: AC+D = __ A (11-6-80) Can not prove
Extortion: AC+D = __ J (12-16-81)
As Bruce Wayne openly claimed, Napier's first certified crime happened when he was only 15 years old (1976).
1982: Selina Kyle is born.
1983: The murder of the Waynes. Jack Napier is 22 years old. Oswald Cobblepot is born, 33 years before his war with Batman.
January 25th, 1989: the date in which Eckhardt's mugshot was compiled. By this point, Napier has already visibly gained mass. Napier's birthday is wrong (it's 1961 and not 1964).
1999: Napier's Police Case History Folder is created. Jack Napier is 38 years old.
2011: Batman begins. At first, he is considered to be an "urban legend".
2013: The events of Batman occur. Batman is 38 years old. The Joker is 52 years old.
2016: The events of Batman Returns occur.
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Post by James on Mar 8, 2022 18:35:50 GMT
I mean I find it a bit hard to believe that these movies take place in the future even with the effort to make Jack's age make sense (no way he could be 28 looking like that in 1989 when Nicholson was in his 50s at the time). Unless Gotham is some dystopian futuristic city but I don't see it that way either.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Mar 8, 2022 20:47:27 GMT
Jack Napier's police department file from the movie says he was born in 1937 like his actor Jack Nicholson, though from other behind-the-scenes shots and auction items it reads 1964 but say the file was put together in 1988.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Mar 8, 2022 22:12:14 GMT
Jack Napier's police department file from the movie says he was born in 1937 like his actor Jack Nicholson, though from other behind-the-scenes shots and auction items it reads 1964 but say the file was put together in 1988.
Really? Are you sure? 1937... where?
What about this:
Name: Jack Napier. Sex: Male. Address: 1379 P__ 565, Gotham City. Age: 38. __:5 ft. 8". __: Gotham. Height: 5 ft. 11". __: JN7. __:265-784. __ by: __. __: 2846287.
Assault: AC+D = __ N (8-29-76)
__: AC+D = __ A (2-16-78)
__: AC+D = __ A (11-6-80) Can not prove
Extortion: AC+D = __ J (12-16-81)
FIRST certified crime, he was 15. Even Bruce states that on-screen.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Mar 8, 2022 22:59:20 GMT
Jack Napier's police department file from the movie says he was born in 1937 like his actor Jack Nicholson, though from other behind-the-scenes shots and auction items it reads 1964 but say the file was put together in 1988.
Really? Are you sure? 1937... where?
What about this:
Name: Jack Napier. Sex: Male. Address: 1379 P__ 565, Gotham City. Age: 38. __:5 ft. 8". __: Gotham. Height: 5 ft. 11". __: JN7. __:265-784. __ by: __. __: 2846287.
Assault: AC+D = __ N (8-29-76)
__: AC+D = __ A (2-16-78)
__: AC+D = __ A (11-6-80) Can not prove
Extortion: AC+D = __ J (12-16-81)
FIRST certified crime, he was 15. Even Bruce states that on-screen.
link says he was born in 1964, here it says 1937 - link
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Mar 8, 2022 23:14:35 GMT
Really? Are you sure? 1937... where?
What about this:
Name: Jack Napier. Sex: Male. Address: 1379 P__ 565, Gotham City. Age: 38. __:5 ft. 8". __: Gotham. Height: 5 ft. 11". __: JN7. __:265-784. __ by: __. __: 2846287.
Assault: AC+D = __ N (8-29-76)
__: AC+D = __ A (2-16-78)
__: AC+D = __ A (11-6-80) Can not prove
Extortion: AC+D = __ J (12-16-81)
FIRST certified crime, he was 15. Even Bruce states that on-screen.
link says he was born in 1964, here it says 1937 - link
Piece of merchandising. Not canon at all.
It's ''1964'' on the mugshot (ON-SCREEN), obviously wrong, because he was born in 1961. Police file lists his first crime as occurring in 1976, and Bruce states he was 15.
As simple as that, the movie is set in an alternate "present" time, 2010s.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Mar 9, 2022 2:20:18 GMT
link says he was born in 1964, here it says 1937 - link
Piece of merchandising. Not canon at all.
It's ''1964'' on the mugshot (ON-SCREEN), obviously wrong, because he was born in 1961. Police file lists his first crime as occurring in 1976, and Bruce states he was 15.
As simple as that, the movie is set in an alternate "present" time, 2010s.
So why is it that in The Flash movie when Barry Allen finds himself in the Burtonverse it is both present day and Keaton's Batman is as old as he is in real life?
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Mar 9, 2022 20:45:00 GMT
Piece of merchandising. Not canon at all.
It's ''1964'' on the mugshot (ON-SCREEN), obviously wrong, because he was born in 1961. Police file lists his first crime as occurring in 1976, and Bruce states he was 15.
As simple as that, the movie is set in an alternate "present" time, 2010s.
So why is it that in The Flash movie when Barry Allen finds himself in the Burtonverse it is both present day and Keaton's Batman is as old as he is in real life?
Future time of the Burtonverse.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Feb 20, 2023 0:31:47 GMT
The future is near. I will updated the timeline soon...
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jun 25, 2023 23:31:29 GMT
Big update!
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