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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Aug 12, 2023 23:37:15 GMT
Nancy never pulled Freddy out of the dream. She was STILL in the dream, but Freddy made her think that it was the real world. Craven confirmed that the last scene of the movie (the car) was a "dream - inside a dream - inside a dream".
That would also explain:
1- Why Nancy was so effective and efficient in the last fight with Freddy. Her dream power is intuition, analysis and ingenuity. 2- Why Marge Thompson "magically" disappeared with Freddy on her bed.
3- Why Don Thompson (a dream replica, not the real one) left Nancy alone after having faced Freddy. That was so awkward.
4- Why according to Jesse (ANOES #2), Marge Thompson commited suicide in her living room.
5- Why Don Thompson (the real one) was so skeptical about Freddy Krueger in ANOES #3. He never experienced the final events of ANOES #1, obviously.
That said:
Do you like the very last scene of ANOES #1, where "Marge" (a dream replica) is killed by Freddy?
It was a frightening sequence, and the special effects were terrific. I think that it was a stuntwoman performing that sequence? Impressive as hell.
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Post by Prime etc. on Aug 12, 2023 23:45:06 GMT
Seems like those shock endings were all the rage then.
Freddy, your friendly neighborhood child molester.
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Post by alexhurricanehiggins on Aug 13, 2023 0:31:29 GMT
As I understand it Craven wanted it to be just a nightmare, however New Line Cinema wanted it to be reality in case successful enough for a sequel, which did happen.
As for certain things established in Part 2, it failed with critics and audiences alike, so the producers were keen to distance themselves from it.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Aug 13, 2023 10:17:27 GMT
As for certain things established in Part 2, it failed with critics and audiences alike, so the producers were keen to distance themselves from it.
Part 2 was less successful than Part 1, 3 and 4, but it was a hit nonetheless.
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Post by alexhurricanehiggins on Aug 13, 2023 18:16:15 GMT
As for certain things established in Part 2, it failed with critics and audiences alike, so the producers were keen to distance themselves from it.
Part 2 was less successful than Part 1, 3 and 4, but it was a hit nonetheless.
Yes it was a hit, what I meant was fans and critics hated it, so for the franchise to continue being successful they had to distance themselves from it. |
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Aug 19, 2023 11:52:04 GMT
No ANOS fans here?
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Post by jjamp48 on Aug 28, 2023 14:29:33 GMT
Sometimes I hear the original ANOES mentioned as a film with a bad or botched ending, or even that the ending undermines or lessens the overall film, but I have never felt that way.
It’s not the most iconic or memorable ending to a horror film, even in that particular era(even some lesser horror films have endings that resonate more), but I fail to see what’s so bad about it. This is an effective ending. Within the context of the film it makes sense: something tranquil and dreamlike that abruptly turns into a total nightmare. It fits. Freddy wins. Ending on a lighter and happier note would have been incongruent with the tone of film up to that point. From what little I know, it appears there was some discussion and indecision on how to end it, but I’d say they more or less came up with the right idea. The only other thing that might have worked would have been an ambiguous ending but, off the top of my head, I’m not sure how they would have pulled that off.
In regards to your points mentioned, I would agree. It would explain or make a few things clearer. Makes sense to me.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Aug 31, 2023 17:36:08 GMT
Sometimes I hear the original ANOES mentioned as a film with a bad or botched ending, or even that the ending undermines or lessens the overall film, but I have never felt that way. It’s not the most iconic or memorable ending to a horror film, even in that particular era(even some lesser horror films have endings that resonate more), but I fail to see what’s so bad about it. This is an effective ending. Within the context of the film it makes sense: something tranquil and dreamlike that abruptly turns into a total nightmare. It fits. Freddy wins. Ending on a lighter and happier note would have been incongruent with the tone of film up to that point. From what little I know, it appears there was some discussion and indecision on how to end it, but I’d say they more or less came up with the right idea. The only other thing that might have worked would have been an ambiguous ending but, off the top of my head, I’m not sure how they would have pulled that off. In regards to your points mentioned, I would agree. It would explain or make a few things clearer. Makes sense to me. Wonderful post. |
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