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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 4, 2023 17:26:50 GMT
"Killers of the Flower Moon by the whiny brat Martin Scorsese (who should be behind bars for what he did with Taxi Driver) … ? He thinks Martin Scorsese should be held 100% responsible for the actions of criminals who were reported to have been fond of Taxi Driver, rather than mental illness - because apparently the courts were either bribed or too scared to have someone like Scorsese stand trial. It was his attempt to devalue the opinion of the filmmaker who has expressed criticism towards Marvel Studios. |
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Post by pennypacker on Nov 4, 2023 18:17:19 GMT
He thinks Martin Scorsese should be held 100% responsible for the actions of criminals who were reported to have been fond of Taxi Driver, rather than mental illness - because apparently the courts were either bribed or too scared to have someone like Scorsese stand trial. It was his attempt to devalue the opinion of the filmmaker who has expressed criticism towards Marvel Studios. Ah. Like the people who think JD Salinger is responsible for Lennon’s murder. Or Marilyn Manson or Stephen King. Is Nolan responsible for Aurora? |
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Post by Sam Raimi on Nov 4, 2023 18:20:40 GMT
Always fun to see Sam make a fool of himself.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 4, 2023 18:24:12 GMT
He thinks Martin Scorsese should be held 100% responsible for the actions of criminals who were reported to have been fond of Taxi Driver, rather than mental illness - because apparently the courts were either bribed or too scared to have someone like Scorsese stand trial. It was his attempt to devalue the opinion of the filmmaker who has expressed criticism towards Marvel Studios. Ah. Like the people who think JD Salinger is responsible for Lennon’s murder. Or Marilyn Manson or Stephen King. Is Nolan responsible for Aurora?Contrary to popular belief, the Aurora shooter was not inspired by the Joker. That was a myth that spread around at the time because it made for a catchy story. The reason James Holmes shot up a screening of TDKR was because it was a popular movie that a lot of people were going to go see, and Holmes wanted to kill as many people as possible. Anyway, yeah, holding works of fiction accountable for real life atrocities is a pretty flimsy argument. That’s why it’s always been stupid when politicians on either side of the political spectrum insist that violent video games are the reason for why mass shootings take place. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 5, 2023 3:05:50 GMT
He thinks Martin Scorsese should be held 100% responsible for the actions of criminals who were reported to have been fond of Taxi Driver, rather than mental illness - because apparently the courts were either bribed or too scared to have someone like Scorsese stand trial. It was his attempt to devalue the opinion of the filmmaker who has expressed criticism towards Marvel Studios. Scorsese's pettiness got to the point other director finally decided to stick it to him:
Which provoked the fury of other pretentious buffoons in turn.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Nov 7, 2023 8:47:03 GMT
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 7, 2023 19:42:41 GMT
I wonder what it is they're teasing with these spots? It seems like they'd be making a bigger deal out of it if it was something amazing. At the same time, I think they're putting too much effort into it for it to turn out to be something lame, which is likely to be the case. Guess I'll find out Friday. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 7, 2023 23:47:19 GMT
He thinks Martin Scorsese should be held 100% responsible for the actions of criminals who were reported to have been fond of Taxi Driver, rather than mental illness - because apparently the courts were either bribed or too scared to have someone like Scorsese stand trial. It was his attempt to devalue the opinion of the filmmaker who has expressed criticism towards Marvel Studios. Scorsese's pettiness got to the point other director finally decided to stick it to him:
Which provoked the fury of other pretentious buffoons in turn.
Scorsese wasn’t being petty. The only reason he talks about Marvel films is because people keep asking him to comment on them. |
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Post by Sam Raimi on Nov 8, 2023 1:34:22 GMT
I wonder what it is they're teasing with these spots? It seems like they'd be making a bigger deal out of it if it was something amazing. At the same time, I think they're putting too much effort into it for it to turn out to be something lame, which is likely to be the case. Guess I'll find out Friday. it’s just desperation. The Avengers theme. Implying Ben al von Kree is the next Thanos. Starting the trailer with Cap and Stark. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 8, 2023 3:35:05 GMT
I wonder what it is they're teasing with these spots? It seems like they'd be making a bigger deal out of it if it was something amazing. At the same time, I think they're putting too much effort into it for it to turn out to be something lame, which is likely to be the case. Guess I'll find out Friday. it’s just desperation. The Avengers theme. Implying Ben al von Kree is the next Thanos. Starting the trailer with Cap and Stark. I love how desperate the "fans" have become in trying to slag off this movie. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 8, 2023 6:01:31 GMT
it’s just desperation. The Avengers theme. Implying Ben al von Kree is the next Thanos. Starting the trailer with Cap and Stark. I love how desperate the "fans" have become in trying to slag off this movie. Well, it would seem both fans and those you refer to as "fans" share variations of disinterest in this movie, because its box office is looking for a record low for the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The only other movie coming out this month that may do worse is Wish, which is *another* Disney movie. I think Marvel Studios has dropped the ball with Captain Marvel and not realized the full potential of the character and her space in the Marvel Universe, and I wouldn't be surprised in some years down the road Brie Larson expresses disappointment and wishes things were better handled - the lady is an Academy-Award winning actress, and this role hasn't given her enough to show it to someone whose cinematic diet doesn't regularly consist of indie dramas. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 8, 2023 13:17:51 GMT
I love how desperate the "fans" have become in trying to slag off this movie. Well, it would seem both fans and those you refer to as "fans" share variations of disinterest in this movie, because it's box office is looking for a record low for the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The only other movie coming out this month that may do worse is Wish, which is *another* Disney movie. I think Marvel Studios has dropped the ball with Captain Marvel and not realized the full potential of the character and her space in the MRvel Universe, and I wouldn't be surprised in some years down the road Brie Larson expresses disappointment and wishes things were better handled - lady is an Academy-Award winning actress, and this role hasn't given her enough to show it to someone whose cinematic diet doesn't regularly consist of indie dramas. It's incredible how they've dropped the ball with this character. She's supposed to be Marvel's Wonder Woman, a flagship character of this universe, and it took them forever to insert her into the narrative. So long in fact that they had to shoehorn her into continuity in a prequel, and even then, they saddled her with amnesia and gave her nothing to do until the third act. I enjoy that movie for the interplay with Fury and eventually Talos, but it doesn't do much for the title character until the very end. Then comes the sequel, where they feel it necessary to give her multiple sidekicks and fill the marketing with legacy characters and hints to other Marvel characters awaiting their MCU debut because apparently nobody cares about Captain Marvel herself. It's just a shame because she's a great character, but the MCU has yet to figure out a way to make her interesting to the public at large. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 8, 2023 13:25:58 GMT
Well, it would seem both fans and those you refer to as "fans" share variations of disinterest in this movie, because it's box office is looking for a record low for the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The only other movie coming out this month that may do worse is Wish, which is *another* Disney movie. I think Marvel Studios has dropped the ball with Captain Marvel and not realized the full potential of the character and her space in the MRvel Universe, and I wouldn't be surprised in some years down the road Brie Larson expresses disappointment and wishes things were better handled - lady is an Academy-Award winning actress, and this role hasn't given her enough to show it to someone whose cinematic diet doesn't regularly consist of indie dramas. It's incredible how they've dropped the ball with this character. She's supposed to be Marvel's Wonder Woman, a flagship character of this universe, and it took them forever to insert her into the narrative. So long in fact that they had to shoehorn her into continuity in a prequel, and even then, they saddled her with amnesia and gave her nothing to do until the third act. I enjoy that movie for the interplay with Fury and eventually Talos, but it doesn't do much for the title character until the very end.
Then comes the sequel, where they feel it necessary to give her multiple sidekicks and fill the marketing with legacy characters and hints to other Marvel characters awaiting their MCU debut because apparently nobody cares about Captain Marvel herself. It's just a shame because she's a great character, but the MCU has yet to figure out a way to make her interesting to the public at large. Funny, that's exactly what happened with Winter Soldier and Cap. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 8, 2023 13:28:42 GMT
I love how desperate the "fans" have become in trying to slag off this movie. Well, it would seem both fans and those you refer to as "fans" share variations of disinterest in this movie, because it's box office is looking for a record low for the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The only other movie coming out this month that may do worse is Wish, which is *another* Disney movie. I think Marvel Studios has dropped the ball with Captain Marvel and not realized the full potential of the character and her space in the MRvel Universe, and I wouldn't be surprised in some years down the road Brie Larson expresses disappointment and wishes things were better handled - lady is an Academy-Award winning actress, and this role hasn't given her enough to show it to someone whose cinematic diet doesn't regularly consist of indie dramas. Have you forgotten how the "fans" thought Guardians of the Galaxy would bomb and destroy the entire MCU?
I do agree they should have done more with Captain Marvel faster, the Covid outbreak slowed things down and then there was the whole mess up with James Gunn who was supposed to be handling the "Cosmic" side of MCU for the forseeable future. By the time they got him back they wanted to wrap up the lingering threads from Guardians of the Galaxy before handing over the reins to Carol for more Cosmic stuff so that was the priority.
Of course, the bigger issue is that Carol should have been in Phases 1 or 2 all along. Not Phase 3.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 8, 2023 14:11:44 GMT
It's incredible how they've dropped the ball with this character. She's supposed to be Marvel's Wonder Woman, a flagship character of this universe, and it took them forever to insert her into the narrative. So long in fact that they had to shoehorn her into continuity in a prequel, and even then, they saddled her with amnesia and gave her nothing to do until the third act. I enjoy that movie for the interplay with Fury and eventually Talos, but it doesn't do much for the title character until the very end.
Then comes the sequel, where they feel it necessary to give her multiple sidekicks and fill the marketing with legacy characters and hints to other Marvel characters awaiting their MCU debut because apparently nobody cares about Captain Marvel herself. It's just a shame because she's a great character, but the MCU has yet to figure out a way to make her interesting to the public at large. Funny, that's exactly what happened with Winter Soldier and Cap. The marketing for Winter Soldier was filled with legacy characters like Iron Man and Thanos, and hinted at the X-Men? Was the name 'Captain America' still in the title, or was it called 'Marvel Spies?' Oh and for the record, Black Widow was around in the MCU before Cap, and is an OG Avenger; hard to call her a sidekick. I guess the entire Avengers roster were sidekicks in Civil War? By all means, keep pretending it's the same thing. You know how I know you're a troll? You never give an honest opinion on anything. You just try to argue other people's statements word for word, without giving any genuine insight as to why you liked something or what you're anticipating about the upcoming projects. I've said multiple times now that I enjoyed the first CM movie, and I'll be there opening night for this one. I have low expectations because Marvel's recent track record isn't great, but hopefully it'll be a decent flick. Doesn't change the fact that Marvel clearly mismanaged this character, by the simple fact that we're having this conversation. I'm still trying to figure out what makes you a 'fan.' |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 8, 2023 17:24:21 GMT
Well, it would seem both fans and those you refer to as "fans" share variations of disinterest in this movie, because it's box office is looking for a record low for the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The only other movie coming out this month that may do worse is Wish, which is *another* Disney movie. I think Marvel Studios has dropped the ball with Captain Marvel and not realized the full potential of the character and her space in the MRvel Universe, and I wouldn't be surprised in some years down the road Brie Larson expresses disappointment and wishes things were better handled - lady is an Academy-Award winning actress, and this role hasn't given her enough to show it to someone whose cinematic diet doesn't regularly consist of indie dramas. Have you forgotten how the "fans" thought Guardians of the Galaxy would bomb and destroy the entire MCU?
I do agree they should have done more with Captain Marvel faster, the Covid outbreak slowed things down and then there was the whole mess up with James Gunn who was supposed to be handling the "Cosmic" side of MCU for the forseeable future. By the time they got him back they wanted to wrap up the lingering threads from Guardians of the Galaxy before handing over the reins to Carol for more Cosmic stuff so that was the priority.
Of course, the bigger issue is that Carol should have been in Phases 1 or 2 all along. Not Phase 3.
How they thought Guardians of the Galaxy would do at the box office is irrelevant to today. This movie is not going to perform anywhere as good as the original Guardians of the Galaxy; the interest just is not there. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 8, 2023 17:28:33 GMT
Funny, that's exactly what happened with Winter Soldier and Cap. The marketing for Winter Soldier was filled with legacy characters like Iron Man and Thanos, and hinted at the X-Men? Was the name 'Captain America' still in the title, or was it called 'Marvel Spies?' Oh and for the record, Black Widow was around in the MCU before Cap, and is an OG Avenger; hard to call her a sidekick. I guess the entire Avengers roster were sidekicks in Civil War? By all means, keep pretending it's the same thing. You know how I know you're a troll? You never give an honest opinion on anything. You just try to argue other people's statements word for word, without giving any genuine insight as to why you liked something or what you're anticipating about the upcoming projects. I've said multiple times now that I enjoyed the first CM movie, and I'll be there opening night for this one. I have low expectations because Marvel's recent track record isn't great, but hopefully it'll be a decent flick. Doesn't change the fact that Marvel clearly mismanaged this character, by the simple fact that we're having this conversation. I'm still trying to figure out what makes you a 'fan.' In an earlier thread he defined a "fan" as being someone with very dated political and sociological views, and wants to see them preserved in modern media, and who is a highly critical consumer. |
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Post by pennypacker on Nov 8, 2023 17:30:06 GMT
54% debut on RT.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 8, 2023 21:42:08 GMT
Have you forgotten how the "fans" thought Guardians of the Galaxy would bomb and destroy the entire MCU?
I do agree they should have done more with Captain Marvel faster, the Covid outbreak slowed things down and then there was the whole mess up with James Gunn who was supposed to be handling the "Cosmic" side of MCU for the forseeable future. By the time they got him back they wanted to wrap up the lingering threads from Guardians of the Galaxy before handing over the reins to Carol for more Cosmic stuff so that was the priority.
Of course, the bigger issue is that Carol should have been in Phases 1 or 2 all along. Not Phase 3.
It's quite relevant, it shows this hostile attitude has existed for a long time towards the MCU. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 8, 2023 21:42:45 GMT
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