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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 15, 2017 2:07:29 GMT
You said DC. Say Marvel to anybody right now and they'll buy into any character that's associated with it, even if they've never heard of them. Not true of DC. Keep clinging to the trinity though. That's not true either. Go go ask my Grandparents (77, and 76) who is Iron Man? They won't know. Ask them who Superman is, they'll know. Not to mention D.C. Has better media exposure. You have the Lego Batman stuff, the animated series from the 90s, JL and JLU, the old 60s Batman, 50s Superman, 70s WW, the Superfriends, Teen Titans, video games (Arkham and Injustice) Cartoon Network Alone has D.C. Shows, then CW has the best Superhero TV shows, and D.C. Sells way more comics. All Marvel has is the MCU, and its kids-40 year old demographic. Anyone over 45 who isn't a nerd doesn't know much about Marvel, but they know D.C. Through DECADES of media. Welcome to 2017 ok
And trolling makes you look bad, just FYI
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Post by brownstones on Aug 15, 2017 2:12:13 GMT
So.....how long is this thread going to last?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 2:17:02 GMT
That's not true either. Go go ask my Grandparents (77, and 76) who is Iron Man? They won't know. Ask them who Superman is, they'll know. Not to mention D.C. Has better media exposure. You have the Lego Batman stuff, the animated series from the 90s, JL and JLU, the old 60s Batman, 50s Superman, 70s WW, the Superfriends, Teen Titans, video games (Arkham and Injustice) Cartoon Network Alone has D.C. Shows, then CW has the best Superhero TV shows, and D.C. Sells way more comics. All Marvel has is the MCU, and its kids-40 year old demographic. Anyone over 45 who isn't a nerd doesn't know much about Marvel, but they know D.C. Through DECADES of media. Welcome to 2017 ok
And trolling makes you look bad, just FYI
Yes it's 2017, and last year (2016) Superman Logo brand clothing outsold all the Avengers world wide combined, including Spider-Man. Superman merchandise is the top selling superhero product every year. "S" shield. It's also the #1 superhero tattoo.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 15, 2017 2:25:47 GMT
Welcome to 2017 ok
And trolling makes you look bad, just FYI
Yes it's 2017, and last year (2016) Superman Logo brand clothing outsold all the Avengers world wide combined, including Spider-Man. Superman merchandise is the top selling superhero product every year. "S" shield. It's also the #1 superhero tattoo. odd that hasn't helped the DCU from being a disaster. Listen, have a good time trolling ok, I really don't care about superman
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 3:21:12 GMT
Welcome to 2017 ok
And trolling makes you look bad, just FYI
Yes it's 2017, and last year (2016) Superman Logo brand clothing outsold all the Avengers world wide combined, including Spider-Man. Superman merchandise is the top selling superhero product every year. "S" shield. It's also the #1 superhero tattoo. And yet both of Superman's recent films appearances were unable to even crack $900 million, whereas the MCU has been adding new members to the Billion Dollar Club on an almost yearly basis. Huh.
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 15, 2017 4:20:58 GMT
You said DC. Say Marvel to anybody right now and they'll buy into any character that's associated with it, even if they've never heard of them. Not true of DC. Keep clinging to the trinity though. That's not true either. Go go ask my Grandparents (77, and 76) who is Iron Man? They won't know. Ask them who Superman is, they'll know. Not to mention D.C. Has better media exposure. You have the Lego Batman stuff, the animated series from the 90s, JL and JLU, the old 60s Batman, 50s Superman, 70s WW, the Superfriends, Teen Titans, video games (Arkham and Injustice) Cartoon Network Alone has D.C. Shows, then CW has the best Superhero TV shows, and D.C. Sells way more comics. All Marvel has is the MCU, and its kids-40 year old demographic. Anyone over 45 who isn't a nerd doesn't know much about Marvel, but they know D.C. Through DECADES of media. Excellent post! ArArchStanton just got owned!
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 15, 2017 4:21:15 GMT
Welcome to 2017 ok
And trolling makes you look bad, just FYI
Yes it's 2017, and last year (2016) Superman Logo brand clothing outsold all the Avengers world wide combined, including Spider-Man. Superman merchandise is the top selling superhero product every year. "S" shield. It's also the #1 superhero tattoo. Excellent post! ArArchStanton just got owned!
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Post by primeone on Aug 15, 2017 7:59:46 GMT
I want DC to fail because their films are crap with the sole exception of Wonder Woman, mello. Wouldn't it make more sense to hope for more of their films to be good like WW? Thank you. These guys want the film to fail so bad because they can’t get over the past. When JL does good, they’ll be the first to cheer.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 11:57:46 GMT
I don't really care what reports are saying about films as I find it hard to tell what is to be believed and what isn't. I also don't really care what early critics say about a movie before it comes out I simply decide for myself. I have decided for myself that I am skipping this films theatrical release because the trailers for it have not gotten me excited in the least. Now if they were to leave Henry Cavill's mustache in the film instead of digitally removing it then I'd say it might be worth my money.
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Post by dnno1 on Aug 15, 2017 15:58:04 GMT
If you go to Batman-on-Film and read the article and then the comments, you will notice that Rich Shew mentions that he had a friend that is a theater chain exec who saw a rough cut of the film (with storyboards as fill-ins for some scenes), and said source liked what he saw. Bill "Jett" Ramey goes on to post that the early cut that his source saw was before the Rick Shew account (which Ramey posted on his site 2 months earlier). In truth, both cuts are definitely not for public viewing, and certainly the studio would expect the film to be further edited (nothing new there). Ramey just put that up for sensation sake with the intent to leave the reader believing that the film might be in trouble, and he got the scoop. This also gives his site attention since other bloggers will be citing Batman on Film as the reference, and will direct traffic there. In truth, I don't see how you can do extensive re-shoots when three of the main actors for Justice League are busy working on other projects (Cavil on MI6, Miller on the sequel to "Fantastic Beasts", and Momoa on "Aquaman"). If the focus is on making Cyborg lighter, then it can't be that extensive since he is not a large portion of the film. Remember, Justice League is about Batman bringing the team together to fight a common threat as much as it is about the MacGuffin that is the three mother boxes that brings the worlds of man, Amazon, and Atlantean together. Changing the tone of one character is not large enough to be considered "extensive". I call fake news on Ramey's part and we should be moving on to other topics.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 15, 2017 16:38:26 GMT
I don't really care what reports are saying about films as I find it hard to tell what is to be believed and what isn't. I also don't really care what early critics say about a movie before it comes out I simply decide for myself. I have decided for myself that I am skipping this films theatrical release because the trailers for it have not gotten me excited in the least. Now if they were to leave Henry Cavill's mustache in the film instead of digitally removing it then I'd say it might be worth my money. I agree there is nothing in the trailers that makes it seem like anything more than a CGI smash fest. If there is any thought put into it, they haven't made it very clear.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 15, 2017 16:51:38 GMT
Yes it's 2017, and last year (2016) Superman Logo brand clothing outsold all the Avengers world wide combined, including Spider-Man. Superman merchandise is the top selling superhero product every year. "S" shield. It's also the #1 superhero tattoo. odd that hasn't helped the DCU from being a disaster. Listen, have a good time trolling ok, I really don't care about superman idk, from here it looks you are the one trolling hard. But really you just get desperate and huffy when presented with facts. Reality check (anecdotal): Coming from an EU-based millennial generation poster who happens to travel a lot outside Europe: the streetwear/merchandise (depending on country rather blue- to no-collar, or kids) I see is predominantly Batman, then with a some distance behind Spiderman (kids) and Supes, maybe a X-Men Wolverine sometimes. Every person on the civilized parts of the planet knows Superman and Batman, household names and IPs like Micky Mouse. You have put your head so deep in your fanboy-ass that you lost all relations with reality, Stanton. Take it seriously and get out of your echo chamber....
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 15, 2017 16:55:34 GMT
odd that hasn't helped the DCU from being a disaster. Listen, have a good time trolling ok, I really don't care about superman idk, from here it looks you are the one trolling hard. But really you just get desperate and huffy when presented with facts. Reality check (anecdotal): Coming from an EU-based millennial generation poster who happens to travel a lot outside Europe: the streetwear/merchandise (depending on country rather blue- to no-collar, or kids) I see is predominantly Batman, then with a some distance behind Spiderman (kids) and Supes, maybe a X-Men Wolverine sometimes. Every person on the civilized parts of the planet knows Superman and Batman, household names and IPs like Micky Mouse. You have put your head so deep in your fanboy-ass that you lost all relations with reality, Stanton. Take it seriously and get out of your echo chamber.... Everybody has heard of Ronald McDonald. Saying that doesn't exactly mean anybody cares about him though does it? Just as a reality check, that's the part that matters. Everybody has heard of Budweiser too, does that make it the best beer?
Also Marvel is more interested in creating a well rounded cast than being top heavy like DC, who more or less ignores the rest of their roster, but if that's your thing, I guess enjoy it. IDK. I'm more interested in the larger balanced roster myself than an outdated superman.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 15, 2017 17:04:52 GMT
idk, from here it looks you are the one trolling hard. But really you just get desperate and huffy when presented with facts. Reality check (anecdotal): Coming from an EU-based millennial generation poster who happens to travel a lot outside Europe: the streetwear/merchandise (depending on country rather blue- to no-collar, or kids) I see is predominantly Batman, then with a some distance behind Spiderman (kids) and Supes, maybe a X-Men Wolverine sometimes. Every person on the civilized parts of the planet knows Superman and Batman, household names and IPs like Micky Mouse. You have put your head so deep in your fanboy-ass that you lost all relations with reality, Stanton. Take it seriously and get out of your echo chamber.... Everybody has heard of Ronald McDonald. Saying that doesn't exactly mean anybody cares about him though does it? Just as a reality check, that's the part that matters. essentially correct, brand recognition does not say if the IP is famous or infamous, or commercial for that matter. But in business transactions it is a factor assessed as asset merit and usually one of the major factors to determine the price when the IP is sold. Btw, I doubt everybody knows that junk food clown, the fact that you bring this one up shows me two things: you are 30+ generation, and that you eat too much junk food, and likely look like it (at least organ- biological age wise). As with the movies: promise me to lay off the fatty foods, Stanton! It's unhealthy.
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 15, 2017 17:13:26 GMT
odd that hasn't helped the DCU from being a disaster. Listen, have a good time trolling ok, I really don't care about superman idk, from here it looks you are the one trolling hard. But really you just get desperate and huffy when presented with facts. Reality check (anecdotal): Coming from an EU-based millennial generation poster who happens to travel a lot outside Europe: the streetwear/merchandise (depending on country rather blue- to no-collar, or kids) I see is predominantly Batman, then with a some distance behind Spiderman (kids) and Supes, maybe a X-Men Wolverine sometimes. Every person on the civilized parts of the planet knows Superman and Batman, household names and IPs like Micky Mouse. You have put your head so deep in your fanboy-ass that you lost all relations with reality, Stanton. Take it seriously and get out of your echo chamber.... ArArchStanton just got owned!
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Post by dnno1 on Aug 15, 2017 17:32:13 GMT
I don't really care what reports are saying about films as I find it hard to tell what is to be believed and what isn't. I also don't really care what early critics say about a movie before it comes out I simply decide for myself. I have decided for myself that I am skipping this films theatrical release because the trailers for it have not gotten me excited in the least. Now if they were to leave Henry Cavill's mustache in the film instead of digitally removing it then I'd say it might be worth my money. I agree there is nothing in the trailers that make it seem like anything more than a CGI smash fest. If there is any thought put into it, they haven't made it very clear. I don't know if there is anything wrong with a CGI smash fest (and I will site the Transformers films, Lord of the Rings, and the Avengers Movies as examples).
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 15, 2017 17:57:06 GMT
Everybody has heard of Ronald McDonald. Saying that doesn't exactly mean anybody cares about him though does it? Just as a reality check, that's the part that matters. essentially correct, brand recognition does not say if the IP is famous or infamous, or commercial for that matter. But in business transactions it is a factor assessed as asset merit and usually one of the major factors to determine the price when the IP is sold. Btw, I doubt everybody knows that junk food clown, the fact that you bring this one up shows me two things: you are 30+ generation, and that you eat too much junk food, and likely look like it (at least organ- biological age wise). As with the movies: promise me to lay off the fatty foods, Stanton! It's unhealthy. Tristan when you can stop trolling like a 12 year old I'll stop ignoring 95% of your posts alright.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 15, 2017 18:07:07 GMT
essentially correct, brand recognition does not say if the IP is famous or infamous, or commercial for that matter. But in business transactions it is a factor assessed as asset merit and usually one of the major factors to determine the price when the IP is sold. Btw, I doubt everybody knows that junk food clown, the fact that you bring this one up shows me two things: you are 30+ generation, and that you eat too much junk food, and likely look like it (at least organ- biological age wise). As with the movies: promise me to lay off the fatty foods, Stanton! It's unhealthy. Tristan when you can stop trolling like a 12 year old I'll stop ignoring 95% of your posts alright. well admittedly I was aiming low right into the burger-belly, but it was done with good intentions and seems to have landed. Feel free to ignore my output to the degree you deem fit and reasonable, Stanton. But beware, too much of this leads back into the echo chamber.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 15, 2017 18:09:24 GMT
Tristan when you can stop trolling like a 12 year old I'll stop ignoring 95% of your posts alright. well admittedly I was aiming low right into the burger-belly, but it was done with good intentions and seems to have landed. Feel free to ignore my output to the degree you deem fit and reasonable, Stanton. But beware, too much of this leads back into the echo chamber. It didn't land, it was just nonsense, and this is why I never respond to you, but here's your troll attention for the day, enjoy
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 15, 2017 18:23:13 GMT
well admittedly I was aiming low right into the burger-belly, but it was done with good intentions and seems to have landed. Feel free to ignore my output to the degree you deem fit and reasonable, Stanton. But beware, too much of this leads back into the echo chamber. It didn't land, it was just nonsense, and this is why I never respond to you, but here's your troll attention for the day, enjoy so everybody won and should be happy then, all's well that ends well, Stanton.
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