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Post by sdrew13163 on May 3, 2018 20:28:51 GMT
No.
Darth Vader is one of the greatest characters in cinematic history on top of being one of the greatest villains in cinematic history.
No one can catch him; Infinity Gauntlet or not.
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Post by kevin on May 3, 2018 20:36:44 GMT
No, I liked him a lot and he's easily the best MCU villain, but he's no Darth Vader. Thanos is intimidating, but he isn't 'holy shit I got chills when he just appeared on screen' intimidating. Thanos isn't even my favorite superhero villain (which would be Ledger's Joker) and he probably also wouldn't make my list of favorite movie villains ever. But in Thanos' defense, no one is the next Darth Vader. Darth Vader stands alone as the most iconic movie villain of all-time.
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Post by poelzig on May 3, 2018 20:41:12 GMT
No. A better comparison would be the villain in that last sparkly vampire movie. They pretend all the good vampires are dead but then it's all a bunch of fake bullshit and everyone is okay and all the little kids and overweight girls dry their tears.
So thanos=mean sparkly vampire and mcu fans=little kids and overweight girls.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on May 3, 2018 20:46:04 GMT
Darth Vader is a mind slave so is he technically a villain?
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on May 3, 2018 20:51:37 GMT
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Post by taylorfirst1 on May 3, 2018 21:02:05 GMT
No way. Samuel L. Jackson's Octopus from "The Spirit" is the greatest film villain ever! LOL, JK.
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Post by DC-Fan on May 11, 2018 18:13:11 GMT
Nah I wouldn't think so. Probably at the time people wouldn't have thought Darth Vader would have stayed iconic for 40 years but I find it hard to imagine any villain being the next Darth Vader. Someone above mentioned the lunch boxes. I imagine lots of kids wore Darth Vader Halloween costumes. I don't see that happening for Thanos. He was a good character. Probably just as good or even a little better than Darth Vader as of just A New Hope but no I can't see it. Thanos is better than other MCU villains, which isn't saying much since all other MCU villains have been awful and lame. But Thanos is still not a great villain. 1st, Thanos sparing Starlord, Iron Man, and Scarlett Witch just because they stood up to him? WTF? That's really lame. Great villains don't hesitate to kill those who oppose them or don't obey their orders. When Hans Gruber told the CEO of Nakatoma to open the vault and the CEO said he can't and said "You'll just have to kill me", Hans didn't say "Brave man, I'm going to spare your life for standing up to me." Hans said "OK" and shot him in the head. No hesitation. Because that's what great villains do. 2nd, aside from ripping off The Illiad, the sacrifice scene was put in to try to make Thanos look more humane and sympathetic. 1 MCU fan even wrote on another thread that Thanos doesn't enjoy killing. That's also really lame. Great villains aren't humane or sympathetic. Hans Gruber was a greedy asshole who was willing to kill many innocent people to get rich. Nothing sympathetic about that. The Joker was an evil and psychotic sociopath who enjoyed killing innocent people. Nothing sympathetic about that. Great villains enjoy killing innocent people and have no remorse or regret about it and aren't supposed to look humane or sympathetic. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 11, 2018 18:20:44 GMT
Thanos is a more nuanced character, at least in his tour de force (IW). I don't really think it's a fair comparison because Vader has had 40 years to seep into the collective zeitgeist while Thanos is the new kid on the block. Those of us who grew up with Vader are always going to see him as the iconic movie villain. Ask a 13 year old kid who just saw IW for the first time and you might get a different answer.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 11, 2018 18:40:10 GMT
Thanos is a more nuanced character, at least in his tour de force (IW). I don't really think it's a fair comparison because Vader has had 40 years to seep into the collective zeitgeist while Thanos is the new kid on the block. Those of us who grew up with Vader are always going to see him as the iconic movie villain. Ask a 13 year old kid who just saw IW for the first time and you might get a different answer. Intriguing point. I wonder if Vader is "passé" to kids today and the ones that like Star Wars are all about Kylo Ren. Could be. Strange days, indeed. |
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Post by spooner5020 on May 11, 2018 23:29:34 GMT
Nah I wouldn't think so. Probably at the time people wouldn't have thought Darth Vader would have stayed iconic for 40 years but I find it hard to imagine any villain being the next Darth Vader. Someone above mentioned the lunch boxes. I imagine lots of kids wore Darth Vader Halloween costumes. I don't see that happening for Thanos. He was a good character. Probably just as good or even a little better than Darth Vader as of just A New Hope but no I can't see it. Thanos is better than other MCU villains, which isn't saying much since all other MCU villains have been awful and lame. But Thanos is still not a great villain. 1st, Thanos sparing Starlord, Iron Man, and Scarlett Witch just because they stood up to him? WTF? That's really lame. Great villains don't hesitate to kill those who oppose them or don't obey their orders. When Hans Gruber told the CEO of Nakatoma to open the vault and the CEO said he can't and said "You'll just have to kill me", Hans didn't say "Brave man, I'm going to spare your life for standing up to me." Hans said "OK" and shot him in the head. No hesitation. Because that's what great villains do. 2nd, aside from ripping off The Illiad, the sacrifice scene was put in to try to make Thanos look more humane and sympathetic. 1 MCU fan even wrote on another thread that Thanos doesn't enjoy killing. That's also really lame. Great villains aren't humane or sympathetic. Hans Gruber was a greedy asshole who was willing to kill many innocent people to get rich. Nothing sympathetic about that. The Joker was an evil and psychotic sociopath who enjoyed killing innocent people. Nothing sympathetic about that. Great villains enjoy killing innocent people and have no remorse or regret about it and aren't supposed to look humane or sympathetic. The joker sucked in Suicide Squad. They made the greatest Batman villain into a Hot Topic icon. Just shut the fuck up and get checked into a mental hospital you piece of shit. |
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Post by Lord Death Man on May 12, 2018 0:28:46 GMT
Thanos is a more nuanced character, at least in his tour de force (IW). I don't really think it's a fair comparison because Vader has had 40 years to seep into the collective zeitgeist while Thanos is the new kid on the block. Those of us who grew up with Vader are always going to see him as the iconic movie villain. Ask a 13 year old kid who just saw IW for the first time and you might get a different answer. Intriguing point. I wonder if Vader is "passé" to kids today and the ones that like Star Wars are all about Kylo Ren. Could be. Strange days, indeed. Young people definitely don't vibe with Vader. To them, he's just an asthmatic in a lot of fetish gear. Stuff like this isn't helping. |
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Post by DC-Fan on May 12, 2018 2:08:40 GMT
Thanos is better than other MCU villains, which isn't saying much since all other MCU villains have been awful and lame. But Thanos is still not a great villain. 1st, Thanos sparing Starlord, Iron Man, and Scarlett Witch just because they stood up to him? WTF? That's really lame. Great villains don't hesitate to kill those who oppose them or don't obey their orders. When Hans Gruber told the CEO of Nakatoma to open the vault and the CEO said he can't and said "You'll just have to kill me", Hans didn't say "Brave man, I'm going to spare your life for standing up to me." Hans said "OK" and shot him in the head. No hesitation. Because that's what great villains do. 2nd, aside from ripping off The Illiad, the sacrifice scene was put in to try to make Thanos look more humane and sympathetic. 1 MCU fan even wrote on another thread that Thanos doesn't enjoy killing. That's also really lame. Great villains aren't humane or sympathetic. Hans Gruber was a greedy asshole who was willing to kill many innocent people to get rich. Nothing sympathetic about that. The Joker was an evil and psychotic sociopath who enjoyed killing innocent people. Nothing sympathetic about that. Great villains enjoy killing innocent people and have no remorse or regret about it and aren't supposed to look humane or sympathetic. The joker sucked in Suicide Squad. I'm referring to Heath Ledger's Joker in The Dark Knight. Heath Ledger's Joker is 1 of the greatest villains in Hollywood history, and no MCU villain, not even Thanos, has come close to being as great a villain as The Joker. |
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Post by Nicko's Nose on May 12, 2018 2:55:59 GMT
Nah I wouldn't think so. Probably at the time people wouldn't have thought Darth Vader would have stayed iconic for 40 years but I find it hard to imagine any villain being the next Darth Vader. Someone above mentioned the lunch boxes. I imagine lots of kids wore Darth Vader Halloween costumes. I don't see that happening for Thanos. He was a good character. Probably just as good or even a little better than Darth Vader as of just A New Hope but no I can't see it. Great villains don't hesitate to kill those who oppose them or don't obey their orders. Great villains enjoy killing innocent people and have no remorse or regret about it and aren't supposed to look humane or sympathetic. Yeah fuck diversity! All villains should be the same. |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2018 13:37:20 GMT
Without the Thanoscopter™ he doesn't stand a chance
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Post by Jedan Archer on May 12, 2018 15:23:23 GMT
Hmmm, let's take a closer look at that.
* Vader was iconic from the moment Star Wars started in '77. Thanos has not become iconic since 1973.
* Vader has an iconic suit, helmet and breathing apparatus, Thanos is a generic VGI blob with a ballsack of a chin.
* Vader wields a red light saber and Force powers, Thanos a kinky Gauntlet with colored gems he likely stole out of Middle Earth.
* Vader has one of the greatest musical march themes ever composed, Thanos has none, or his is so generic it's forgettable.
* Vader is so interesting a character that he had his complex backstory and history put into movies, nobody really cared for Thano's backstory.
* Vader has an interesting and meaningful relationship with his family, Thanos without great hesitation throws them into the abyss.
* Vader is surrounded by villainous superiors and lackeys that are at least as iconic as he is, Thanos lackeys get defeated in a dance off dual.
*Vader's voice is James Earl Jones, Thanos' is James Brolin.
So, chances of Thanos becoming the next Vader are - conservatively estimated - around zero; best chances with kids below 8. You're welcome, kid.
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Post by damngumby on May 14, 2018 0:26:16 GMT
Darth Vader’s appeal was purely superficial. That Halloween costume and that VOICE. Take those away and what do you have left? Not much. When we finally got to see what was behind the mask in the Muppet & Ewok movie, it was a major disappointment.
And then the sequels turned him into an angry dipshit with mommy issues. Noooooo!
Thanos does have the potential to become the next iconic super villain ... and fill the void left by the neutered Darthy Vader. And it will because of the character, not just the costume.
I mean, who else is there? Certainly not Heath Ledgers Joker. Sure, it was a great character and a great performance, but as a true superhero villain, the Joker is just some bush-league nut that any moderately competent police department could handle on their own. Way below the pay grade of most superheroes.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 14, 2018 0:38:56 GMT
Darth Vader’s appeal was purely superficial. That Halloween costume and that VOICE. Take those away and what do you have left? Not much. When we finally got to see what was behind the mask in the Muppet & Ewok movie, it was a major disappointment. And then the sequels turned him into an angry dipshit with mommy issues. Noooooo!Thanos does have the potential to become the next iconic super villain ... and fill the void left by the neutered Darthy Vader. And it will because of the character, not just the costume. I mean, who else is there? Certainly not Heath Ledgers Joker. Sure, it was a great character and a great performance, but as a true superhero villain, the Joker is just some bush-league nut that any moderately competent police department could handle on their own. Way below the pay grade of most superheroes. So basically your bandwagon fandom applies not just to pro football but to internet hipster opinions about movies. That must be exhausting. |
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Post by damngumby on May 14, 2018 1:35:33 GMT
So basically your bandwagon fandom applies not just to pro football but to internet hipster opinions about movies. That must be exhausting. Coincidentally, my disdain for Muppets in Space developed around the same time I became a Patriots fan, during their ill-fated first Super Bowl run. The Patriots eventually got better. Star Wars, not so much. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 14, 2018 2:52:32 GMT
So basically your bandwagon fandom applies not just to pro football but to internet hipster opinions about movies. That must be exhausting. Coincidentally, my disdain for Muppets in Space developed around the same time I became a Patriots fan, during their ill-fated first Super Bowl run. The Patriots eventually got better. Star Wars, not so much. The Patriots will always be a job squad, son. No matter what. Don't forget that. |
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Post by Marv on May 14, 2018 3:01:36 GMT
I liked Thanos more. but I don’t buy lunch boxes.
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