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Post by northernlad on May 27, 2018 13:30:56 GMT
I hope it's more than flashbacks...but damn, I just don't see how they can bring him back and have it make sense.
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Post by James on May 27, 2018 13:35:48 GMT
Wouldn't make sense for him to come back. If Wonder Woman 2 is being set in the 80s, and BvS and JL are already set in the 2010s with reference to Chris Pine's death, there's no way he can be back. Flashbacks sound about right. Or maybe even as a hallucination.
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Post by politicidal on May 27, 2018 14:53:39 GMT
Perhaps there'll be time travel in the mix.
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Post by DC-Fan on May 27, 2018 15:49:43 GMT
I don't think it's hallucination or time travel as suggested above. I see 3 possibilities:
1. Flashback. This is the most obvious.
2. He's playing Steve Trevor's grandson. This would be similar to the 2nd and 3rd seasons of the TV series, when Lyle Waggoner played Steve Trevor's son.
3. Steve Trevor is in the Elysian Fields and Diana found a way to temporarily travel to the Elysian Fields.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on May 27, 2018 19:44:34 GMT
I don't think it's hallucination or time travel as suggested above. I see 3 possibilities: 2. He's playing Steve Trevor's grandson. They wouldn't do that. Or at least I hope they wouldn't do that. Save it for tbe Back To The Future movies.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on May 28, 2018 11:09:03 GMT
how, magic snow like in Cap America? Steve's death and the loss of a lead protagonist was a crucial event for Diana's character development. Bringing him back would destroy what elevated WW over typical CBM junk food. Let the dead rest in dignity.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on May 28, 2018 11:28:53 GMT
Chris Pine was one of the best things about the film. Still I'm not sure how I feel about him being revived.
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Post by DC-Fan on May 28, 2018 17:12:00 GMT
Chris Pine was one of the best things about the film. Still I'm not sure how I feel about him being revived. He's not being revived. Justice League basically confirmed Steve Trevor was dead, when Batman mentioned Steve Trevor's name and Wonder Woman gave him a powerful shove. There isn't going to be any lame "frozen in ice for 70 years" gimmick. Most likely, it's a flashback sequence.
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Post by Skaathar on May 28, 2018 23:17:23 GMT
He will be some kind of German assassin, brainwashed and kept on ice to stop him from aging, only being woken up when he has a job to complete. Hmmm... why does this sound familiar.
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Post by politicidal on May 29, 2018 0:56:51 GMT
I don't think it's hallucination or time travel as suggested above. I see 3 possibilities: 2. He's playing Steve Trevor's grandson. They wouldn't do that. Or at least I hope they wouldn't do that. Save it for tbe Back To The Future movies. I actually suspected something similar to this before it was released. That Pine would play a future character (in the present DCEU timeline) that is Trevor's descendant (like Hal Jordan or someone similar). Wonder if they'll do it?
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Post by leesilm on Jun 5, 2018 17:53:30 GMT
Random ideas for how Chris Pine could appear in WW2 (or WW84, as I've seen it called)...
1.Flashback - Diana remembers something from the boat ride to the world of Men, or possibly even a flashback that has nothing directly to do with Diana. Perhaps Dr.Poison is still around (We never saw her die in WW) and it is a flashback of hers, to another time Steve thwarted her plans. Or, it could be something like the Smithsonian scene in CAPTAIN AMERICA; WINTER SOLDIER where they had film reels going of Steve and Bucky kidding around, of Peggy's interview done in the late 60s, and promotional material of the Howling Commandos. Steve had a career as a spy and pilot before he met Diana, so there would be a lot to possibly work with.
2.Dream/Hallucination - Diana has something happen a la that critter from the SUPERGIRL TV series and also seen in at least one of the JUSTICE LEAGUE cartoons, that latches onto you and puts you into a dream of a perfect life (Kara was back on Krypton with her family in the show, Clark was married to a Lois-look-alike on Krypton and had a son, dog, his birth parents, and an important job on his home world in the cartoon). So maybe she has that thing attached to her, and she imagines a life with Steve where they have breakfast before he goes off to work and she runs around helping people, then they come back together in the evening for dinner that he cooked and such. Alternately, she could get slightly affected by something Dr.Poison does, so she thinks someone else she's dealing with is Steve so she sees Steve (Pine) but the audience sees the person who is actually there with her.
3.Time Travel - We've already seen future-Barry come back to talk to Bruce. It wouldn't be so unbelievable, at this point, to have Steve show up out of continuity in the timeline. That Diana is somehow granted a snapshot of the future, and she sees that Steve is there and she doesn't understand HOW that is even possible. Or, she could have to go back in time, similarly to Barry in BATMAN VS. SUPERMAN, and she has to let Steve die all over again because she can't change things while she is there but she has to tell her past-self (or someone else from the past) something to inform the future.
4.Grandson/relative - This seems to be the least favorite idea among fans, doesn't mean they won't try it. Could be that Steve had a nephew, who has a son involved in Cold War spying, and the guy looks freakishly similar to great-uncle Steve. They lightened Pine's hair for the first movie, so leaving it closer to the darker brown that he natural has, would be a way to differentiate the two incarnations (somehow, I doubt they'll let him keep the gray hair he has in real life, to the level he has in real life- which is kind of sad. It could work for someone who has spent 10yrs as a spy during the Cold War), letting him have a perfectly clean shaven or have some facial hair could also shift the look a little.
5.Winter Soldier DC Edition - This ranks right up there with 'relative of Steve' for how fans seem to feel about it. At least from what I've read. He could have been affected by something Dr.Poison or Hades did, and now he's immortal and has some memory glitches. He could then be used against Diana, similarly to Bucky with Steve R. in MARVEL, or he could be used against her more in the way Jane often was used against Tarzan in his old movies, to mess with the hero's head/heart as well as making them keep a safe distance from the bad guys "or your lover gets it" kind of deal.
6.Reincarnation - We are dealing with Greek mythology gods, so this isn't totally out of the realm of possibility. We only have Hippolyta's word from when she was telling the story of the Godkiller sword to Diana, that ALL the other gods are dead. What if Hades missed one? What if, say Dionysus, Hestia, or Hermes escaped? And, in gratitude to their niece/half sister, for all she's done, they bring Steve back? Diana doesn't even have to meet him, he could be in a stinger-type scene where he heads to flight school in 2017 as a flight instructor.
7.Non-Related-to-1984 - WONDER WOMAN opens in the present day, shortly after the events of BATMAN VS. SUPERMAN and just before JUSTICE LEAGUE, yet the bulk of the movie takes place in WWI and a chunk taking place in Diana's early childhood/teens, then closed in the present day. What's to say that WW2 can't have a similar time-jump going on? Perhaps it has a scene where Diana is in the past or future, where there is Steve (reincarnated, reanimated, relative, or whatever), or again, it might be something Diana doesn't see/isn't involved in at the time.
8.Combo - Hestia grants Diana a favor, though we don't get to know what it is. Before this favor, Hestia is looking over Diana's life and looking into her dreams, and she sees Steve there, requiring Pine for filming the dreams. We don't show us, in this movie, that Hestia is granting Diana her heart's desire- Steve. He won't show up and reveal what the Gift was, until WW3 or JUSTICE LEAGUE 2.
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Post by nemesis617 on Jun 6, 2018 2:22:19 GMT
They wouldn't do that. Or at least I hope they wouldn't do that. Save it for tbe Back To The Future movies. I actually suspected something similar to this before it was released. That Pine would play a future character (in the present DCEU timeline) that is Trevor's descendant (like Hal Jordan or someone similar). Wonder if they'll do it? Even though I loved Chris Pine's portrayal of Steve Trevor, bringing him back is very risky. I think the only way to make this work is to have flashback scenes instead of him playing a descendant.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jun 13, 2018 20:54:09 GMT
Perhaps there'll be time travel in the mix. No! NO! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jun 13, 2018 20:56:54 GMT
Chris Pine was one of the best things about the film. Still I'm not sure how I feel about him being revived. He's not being revived. Justice League basically confirmed Steve Trevor was dead, when Batman mentioned Steve Trevor's name and Wonder Woman gave him a powerful shove. There isn't going to be any lame "frozen in ice for 70 years" gimmick. Most likely, it's a flashback sequence. LOOK AT YOU GO, DC-FAN!!!! YOU TELL 'EM!!! NO LAME "FROZEN FOR 70 YEARS" BS IN THE DCEU! SHIT! I GOT YOU!
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 13, 2018 22:49:15 GMT
Chris Pine was one of the best things about the film. Still I'm not sure how I feel about him being revived. He's not being revived. Justice League basically confirmed Steve Trevor was dead, when Batman mentioned Steve Trevor's name and Wonder Woman gave him a powerful shove. There isn't going to be any lame "frozen in ice for 70 years" gimmick. Most likely, it's a flashback sequence. So what will you do if he's actually revived. Will you attack Wonder Woman 2 with the same amount of vitriol you attack MCU movies for not permanently killing off characters? Same way you should have attacked JL for resurrecting Superman?
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Post by leesilm on Jun 14, 2018 17:23:14 GMT
Honestly, I have faith that Patty Jenkins won't ruin all the character/work/wonderfulness of WONDER WOMAN (2017) with what she does in WW84.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 14, 2018 19:20:41 GMT
Honestly, I have faith that Patty Jenkins won't ruin all the character/work/wonderfulness of WONDER WOMAN (2017) with what she does in WW84. I don't know, I used to think WW was in good hands with Patty... but then she went ahead and hired Wiig for Cheetah. Now I'm back to doubting.
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Post by leesilm on Jun 14, 2018 20:25:10 GMT
Honestly, I have faith that Patty Jenkins won't ruin all the character/work/wonderfulness of WONDER WOMAN (2017) with what she does in WW84. I don't know, I used to think WW was in good hands with Patty... but then she went ahead and hired Wiig for Cheetah. Now I'm back to doubting. I'm not sure I've ever seen anything Wiig has done, and I barely know who she is. Is she not a good actress or something? I'm asking genuinely, not being a smart-alec.
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Post by raiderjedi on Jun 14, 2018 20:48:41 GMT
Chris Pine was one of the best things about the film. Still I'm not sure how I feel about him being revived. He's not being revived. Justice League basically confirmed Steve Trevor was dead, when Batman mentioned Steve Trevor's name and Wonder Woman gave him a powerful shove. There isn't going to be any lame "frozen in ice for 70 years" gimmick. Most likely, it's a flashback sequence. They didn't have shiny track suits and knapsacks in WWI, so its definitely not a flashback. Also Jenkins tagged the picture as "Steve Trevor 1984".
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