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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 4, 2018 19:45:32 GMT
Factual inaccuracies aside, your hatred of all things MCU has prevented you from even addressing my question directly. If you need to compare the MCU to the XMU to establish the superiority of the latter, you've failed. I dont hate "all things MCU". I dislike some things MCU, get it right. The examples I highlighted in isolation are superior directing, filmmaking and scene constructions to their counterparts in very similar scenarios. They highlight my point well about the urgency to rush into action without any weight supporting them. That is a common MCU complaint and part the reason why their tone of films are so soft. I did, you admitted not reading. Villains get adequate screentime and treated as equals to the protagonist intellectually. Third act climaxes are interwoven strongly with the narrative and achieve satisfying fruition to the story at hand. Action/fight scenes have more emotional resonance and not reduced to independent set pieces. Darker character arcs are explored with more depth and rigor with an almost no holds barred approach. Bathos humour is rarely applied. Throw all these beats and characteristics into a melting pot and you will start to see the tone of Xmen films emerge and how they are different to MCU flicks (in general). All those clips show it and the result is a more serious style of storytelling, just like the Xmen comics. Take away or minimise any of those and you get the MCU tone, style, atmosphere - whatever you want to call it. That's my answer to what tone is in the 2 film franchises, and a rebuttal to your claim that the Xfilms get literally nothing right. And il repeat, Xfilms take their world seriously, MCU take it as a joke. The rest of your post is irrelevant and patronizing. When the X-Men take their rightful place within the fandom of legend, I will burn all of the XMU DVD and blu-rays that I don't own. I will spit on the grave of every pretender and naysayer. There is no defending the atrocity that is the XMU. It will burn and you along with it. You are the past. We are the future.
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Post by harpospoke on Jun 4, 2018 19:58:20 GMT
Why in the world would I want Xmen and FF to stay outside of Marvel where they have been mistreated with mediocre to bad movies for years?
Marvel invented the characters. They won't be making Galactus a cloud or making the Xmen into Wolverine and Friends. The Fux sh*t show hasn't been pleasant and they certainly can't get the public engaged with the properties. Ryan Reynolds showed them how to do one franchise right at least and the box office reflected that.
This would be somewhat like rooting for some other studio to take over Superman and Wonder Woman. The big difference is that WB isn't really invested in DC like Marvel studios is with Marvel.
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Post by charzhino on Jun 4, 2018 20:48:44 GMT
When the X-Men take their rightful place within the fandom of legend, I will burn all of the XMU DVD and blu-rays that I don't own. I will spit on the grave of every pretender and naysayer. There is no defending the atrocity that is the XMU. It will burn and you along with it. You are the past. We are the future.
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Post by summers8 on Jun 4, 2018 21:09:33 GMT
I dont hate "all things MCU". I dislike some things MCU, get it right. The examples I highlighted in isolation are superior directing, filmmaking and scene constructions to their counterparts in very similar scenarios. They highlight my point well about the urgency to rush into action without any weight supporting them. That is a common MCU complaint and part the reason why their tone of films are so soft. I did, you admitted not reading. Villains get adequate screentime and treated as equals to the protagonist intellectually. Third act climaxes are interwoven strongly with the narrative and achieve satisfying fruition to the story at hand. Action/fight scenes have more emotional resonance and not reduced to independent set pieces. Darker character arcs are explored with more depth and rigor with an almost no holds barred approach. Bathos humour is rarely applied. Throw all these beats and characteristics into a melting pot and you will start to see the tone of Xmen films emerge and how they are different to MCU flicks (in general). All those clips show it and the result is a more serious style of storytelling, just like the Xmen comics. Take away or minimise any of those and you get the MCU tone, style, atmosphere - whatever you want to call it. That's my answer to what tone is in the 2 film franchises, and a rebuttal to your claim that the Xfilms get literally nothing right. And il repeat, Xfilms take their world seriously, MCU take it as a joke. The rest of your post is irrelevant and patronizing. When the X-Men take their rightful place within the fandom of legend, I will burn all of the XMU DVD and blu-rays that I don't own. I will spit on the grave of every pretender and naysayer. There is no defending the atrocity that is the XMU. It will burn and you along with it. You are the past. We are the future. THE FANDOM OF LEGEND.LMAO. the fandom that constantly lies and are so insecure that disney does not make all the marvel movies. not the legends of intellect, serious film making, respect, real acclaim for artistic merit not fun and funny.
XMen must flee from the MCU fandom and have no link to mcu disney. mcu has a new friend. it is called disney star wars. they can join the mcu. leave xmen out of it.
let us enjoy out fox xmen and fox star wars even with the flaws. those films are superior. made by real film makers who valued their craft. not the soulless cgi disney trash we have right now destroying cinema.
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Post by spooner5020 on Jun 4, 2018 21:29:16 GMT
When the X-Men take their rightful place within the fandom of legend, I will burn all of the XMU DVD and blu-rays that I don't own. I will spit on the grave of every pretender and naysayer. There is no defending the atrocity that is the XMU. It will burn and you along with it. You are the past. We are the future. THE FANDOM OF LEGEND.LMAO. the fandom that constantly lies and are so insecure that disney does not make all the marvel movies. not the legends of intellect, serious film making, respect, real acclaim for artistic merit not fun and funny.
XMen must flee from the MCU fandom and have no link to mcu disney. mcu has a new friend. it is called disney star wars. they can join the mcu. leave xmen out of it.
let us enjoy out fox xmen and fox star wars even with the flaws. those films are superior. made by real film makers who valued their craft. not the soulless cgi disney trash we have right now destroying cinema.
Your grammar fucking sucks. Uneducated little fuck.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 4, 2018 21:38:46 GMT
THE FANDOM OF LEGEND.LMAO. the fandom that constantly lies and are so insecure that disney does not make all the marvel movies. not the legends of intellect, serious film making, respect, real acclaim for artistic merit not fun and funny.
XMen must flee from the MCU fandom and have no link to mcu disney. mcu has a new friend. it is called disney star wars. they can join the mcu. leave xmen out of it.
let us enjoy out fox xmen and fox star wars even with the flaws. those films are superior. made by real film makers who valued their craft. not the soulless cgi disney trash we have right now destroying cinema.
Your grammar fucking sucks. Uneducated little fuck. He was so excited by my prose he could barley get his words out. Bang bang goes the little man on the keyboard. It happens. Death comes to everyone. He will be an interesting, anthropological footnote in the world that's coming.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2018 23:23:43 GMT
Your grammar fucking sucks. Uneducated little fuck. He was so excited by my prose he could barley get his words out. Bang bang goes the little man on the keyboard. It happens. Death comes to everyone. He will be an interesting, anthropological footnote in the world that's coming. His love for the X Men franchise was his one true love. You showing him the truth broke his heart. There is actually an old saying in India "When your heartbreaks it directly affects your mind".
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 5, 2018 0:22:43 GMT
He was so excited by my prose he could barley get his words out. Bang bang goes the little man on the keyboard. It happens. Death comes to everyone. He will be an interesting, anthropological footnote in the world that's coming. His love for the X Men franchise was his one true love. You showing him the truth broke his heart. There is actually an old saying in India "When your heartbreaks it directly affects your mind".Then his heart was broken long ago.
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Post by charzhino on Jun 12, 2018 22:01:24 GMT
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 12, 2018 22:09:46 GMT
Game on, you thirsty son of a bitch. Reunification: Today. Tomorrow. Forever. Hee hee hee...
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jun 13, 2018 0:34:38 GMT
With Net Neutrality gone, is no one worried about this? Or is comic book movies more important?
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Post by palerider on Jun 17, 2018 16:44:41 GMT
Apparently there's some possibility of Comcast being willing to give the Marvel properties back to Marvel/Disney if they let them have the other FOX properties.
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Post by James Bond on Jun 17, 2018 17:45:14 GMT
I don't care who owns Fox. I just want the Fantastic Four and X-Men rights to go back to Marvel.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 17, 2018 18:06:25 GMT
I don't care who owns Fox. I just want the Fantastic Four and X-Men rights to go back to Marvel. Exactly. This childish, corporate fetishism is naive and short sighted in the extreme. There is no material difference between Disney or Comcast owning Fox. If anything, it would be slightly worse for Fox if Comcast bought them for reasons detailed in this article. Fox's catalog is complementary to Disney's and, it is mostly redundant with Universal's (via Comcast). It's inevitable that Disney will regain the rights to the Marvel properties. Comcast will be in so much debt after buying Fox that selling Disney back their IP -- at a premium -- might look like a reasonable thing to do.
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Post by brownstones on Jun 19, 2018 0:33:57 GMT
To an extent, yes.
While I wouldn't mind seeing the Xmen and FF join the MCU, I'm more concerned with Fox as an actual studio being dismantled.....
If Comcast acquires Fox then it seems Fox will remain as is for the most part, the same way AT&T absorbed Time Warner.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 19, 2018 0:36:25 GMT
To an extent, yes. While I wouldn't mind seeing the Xmen and FF join the MCU, I'm more concerned with Fox as an actual studio being dismantled..... If Comcast acquires Fox then it seems Fox will remain as is for the most part, the same way AT&T absorbed Time Warner. What planet are you living on? Fox and Universal's content offering have far more overlap that Fox and Disney's. Comcast will gut Fox like a freshly caught fish.
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Post by brownstones on Jun 19, 2018 0:43:04 GMT
To an extent, yes. While I wouldn't mind seeing the Xmen and FF join the MCU, I'm more concerned with Fox as an actual studio being dismantled..... If Comcast acquires Fox then it seems Fox will remain as is for the most part, the same way AT&T absorbed Time Warner. What planet are you living on? Fox and Universal's content offering have far more overlap that Fox and Disney's. Comcast will gut Fox like a freshly caught fish. Well if that's the case then idk
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 19, 2018 0:50:01 GMT
What planet are you living on? Fox and Universal's content offering have far more overlap that Fox and Disney's. Comcast will gut Fox like a freshly caught fish. Well if that's the case then idk Read this and form your own opinion. Don't just parrot the Disney hate.
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Post by brownstones on Jun 19, 2018 1:04:43 GMT
Well if that's the case then idk Read this and form your own opinion. Don't just parrot the Disney hate. Why would I parrot Disney hate? I had assumed that Comcast would leave Fox as is....and I also forgot they owned Universal, and the article does make a decent point where there are film quadrant overlap between Fox and Universal. That being said.... if that's the case then I feel that regardless of the outcome.... we'll have less diversity in films, because I don't know if Disney will keep Fox as a studio to create smaller scale films, because they state often that they're in the Blockbuster business, and if Comcast acquires Fox then as stated in the article then why have two of the same when you can merge them.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 19, 2018 2:41:35 GMT
Read this and form your own opinion. Don't just parrot the Disney hate. Why would I parrot Disney hate? I had assumed that Comcast would leave Fox as is....and I also forgot they owned Universal, and the article does make a decent point where there are film quadrant overlap between Fox and Universal. That being said.... if that's the case then I feel that regardless of the outcome.... we'll have less diversity in films, because I don't know if Disney will keep Fox as a studio to create smaller scale films, because they state often that they're in the Blockbuster business, and if Comcast acquires Fox then as stated in the article then why have two of the same when you can merge them. Yeah but, what was the initial basis for your assumption that Comcast would magnanimously just leave Fox intact? And conversely, what would incentivize Disney to dismantle it? Sounds like you were just jumping on the thread's bandwagon...
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