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Post by Skaathar on May 28, 2018 20:54:19 GMT
Out of all the heroes in the MCU, who do you consider the most heroic and why? Criteria to take into consideration when judging who's the most heroic:
1. Willingness to sacrifice one's self - are they willing to die for a cause? Die for others? Put other's wellfare before their own? Etc.
2. Accomplishments - though it's understandable that heroes can't win every fight they get into, you might want to pick a hero with a pretty good success record.
3. Attitude - find someone who's noble, honest and humble but also has a strong enough character so they don't keep getting stepped on.
4. To kill or not to kill - you don't want a blood thirsty hero but you also want someone who can get the job done when it's necessary
5. Willingness to follow rules vs. moral compass - you don't want a hero who completely disregards rules and law just to get what they want, but at the same time you want someone willing to break the rules if it means doing the right thing.
6. The ability to overcome difficulty - you want a hero who has shown the necessary fighting spirit to not give up just because things get tough.
7. Physical looks - though obviously not as important as the others, looking like a heroic figure does help one feel more heroic
There are probably other criteria out there but I don't want to list them all. So go ahead and pick, who's the most heroic MCU hero?
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Post by Power Ranger on May 28, 2018 21:31:48 GMT
Sam Wilson was counselling vets who had PTSD. Then he became a fugitive twice in order to help Steve Rogers even though he had no obligation to. He just thought it was the right thing to do. I don’t agree with his position the second time as I agree with the Sokovia Accords but I still say Sam. As far as looks go I don’t like guys so I’ll say Mantis.
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Post by Skaathar on May 28, 2018 21:55:06 GMT
Sam Wilson was counselling vets who had PTSD. Then he became a fugitive twice in order to help Steve Rogers even though he had no obligation to. He just thought it was the right thing to do. I don’t agree with his position the second time as I agree with the Sokovia Accords but I still say Sam. As far as looks go I don’t like guys so I’ll say Mantis. Though I respect your choice, I don't think Sam can compete with some of the others when it comes to self sacrifice and heroic accomplishments. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on May 28, 2018 22:29:30 GMT
Captain America is my top pick! He willingly was going to sacrifice himself by crashing an aircraft that would have killed thousands, possibly millions, into the artic where he somehow survive it.
In the Avengers he goes out of the way to save as many civilians while being shot and thrown around by Alien Invaders and took on Loki on his own till Iron Man showed up.
In Winter Soldier he once again throws himself into on coming danger and even inspired shield agents to stand up against Hydra.
In Age of Ultron he willingly goes toe to toe against Ultron despite being over powered by him, goes out of his way to desperately rescue trapped civilians while Ultron attacking him.
In Civil War he stands up against a tyrannical government.
In Infinity War he not only charged into battle against the outriders with little protection but he even threw himself against Thanos. Despite knowing Thanos could easily kill him Cap still threw himself against Thanos.
Can't wait to see what he does in Avengers 4!
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Post by Skaathar on May 28, 2018 22:35:39 GMT
Captain America is my top pick! He willingly was going to sacrifice himself by crashing an aircraft that would have killed thousands, possibly millions, into the artic where he somehow survive it. In the Avengers he goes out of the way to save as many civilians while being shot and thrown around by Alien Invaders and took on Loki on his own till Iron Man showed up. In Winter Soldier he once again throws himself into on coming danger and even inspired shield agents to stand up against Hydra. In Age of Ultron he willingly goes toe to toe against Ultron despite being over powered by him, goes out of his way to desperately rescue trapped civilians while Ultron attacking him. In Civil War he stands up against a tyrannical government. In Infinity War he not only charged into battle against the outriders with little protection but he even threw himself against Thanos. Despite knowing Thanos could easily kill him Cap still threw himself against Thanos. Can't wait to see what he does in Avengers 4! Cap is pretty high up on my list as well, 2nd place actually. In fact he would have been my top pick a year ago. But events in Ragnarok and Infinity War have now bumped Thor to my #1 spot. I'll wait for others to weigh in before I say my piece. |
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Post by James on May 28, 2018 23:35:36 GMT
Captain America, quite frankly. In TWS, he almost had Bucky kill him, but he believed that he still remembers him.
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Post by politicidal on May 28, 2018 23:57:11 GMT
Captain America, quite frankly. In TWS, he almost had Bucky kill him, but he believed that he still remembers him. Yep. |
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Post by hobowar on May 29, 2018 0:18:24 GMT
Captain America
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Post by DC-Fan on May 29, 2018 0:48:37 GMT
Captain America is my top pick! Captain America, quite frankly. How is it heroic to obstruct justice and be an accessory to murder? |
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Post by Skaathar on May 29, 2018 1:06:21 GMT
I pick Thor over Cap because Thor has lost more and yet still kept fighting on. He's sacrificed more, learned more, improved more, and showed he's more willing to make the hard choice for the good of the many. Plus his actions have saved more lives than Cap's.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on May 29, 2018 6:33:47 GMT
How is it heroic to obstruct justice and be an accessory to murder? Leave Trump out of this. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 29, 2018 13:34:51 GMT
I pick Thor over Cap because Thor has lost more and yet still kept fighting on. He's sacrificed more, learned more, improved more, and showed he's more willing to make the hard choice for the good of the many. Plus his actions have saved more lives than Cap's. I'm going with Cap as well, though you do make a compelling argument. |
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on May 29, 2018 15:20:15 GMT
Cap and Thor are both excellent choices. Over and over they have proved themselves worthy. I don’t think either one out-hero’s the other. On another note, as far as tragic figures go, showing their selfless heroism, I think Loki stands out. Despite often being self serving and alternately playing both sides, Loki has had some truly meaningful heroic moments and in his own on-point mischievous way, made the ultimate sacrifice trying to save his family and (adopted) people. I see him as the most anti-heroic of the bunch.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2018 16:40:54 GMT
HAWKEYE! I mean, to enter dangerous situations without wearing a protective HELMET... That's heroic!
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Post by DC-Fan on May 29, 2018 19:31:39 GMT
This is why MCU is so lame. Their most "heroic" hero is a guy who:
1. Couldn't pass the physical to get into the Army because he was too lazy to exercise and train like the other soldiers did.
2. Stole the rank of Captain from other more experienced and more qualified officers who had worked their butts off for many years to put themselves in line for a promotion.
3. Obstructed justice and became an accessory to murder by aiding and abetting a double-murderer to escape from the authorities.
4. Acts like a tyrant who believes that he shouldn't have to answer to the people and that he alone should decide what's best for the people.
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Post by scabab on May 29, 2018 20:47:09 GMT
Didn't Superman jam several trees through somebody's Truck over a little argument? Probably costing the man his job and causing work for people who would then have to come out and remove it?
Didn't he destroy a $12 million military drone and refused to answer to them?
Wasn't he partially responsible for most of the destruction that happened in Smallville and Metropolis? He saved his mom by flying into Zod....then taking him into a populated area. He fought Zod who chucked an explosive tanker at him but instead of stopping it in its tracks, he jumped over it causing the tanker to explode and bring a building down. Rather than grabbing these people and going into space immediately he first causes havoc in the populated area in the world.
He starts kicking Batman around for no reason at all too.
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Post by Skaathar on May 29, 2018 21:41:53 GMT
This is why MCU is so lame. Their most "heroic" hero is a guy who: 1. Couldn't pass the physical to get into the Army because he was too lazy to exercise and train like the other soldiers did. 2. Stole the rank of Captain from other more experienced and more qualified officers who had worked their butts off for many years to put themselves in line for a promotion. 3. Obstructed justice and became an accessory to murder by aiding and abetting a double-murderer to escape from the authorities. 4. Acts like a tyrant who believes that he shouldn't have to answer to the people and that he alone should decide what's best for the people. Oh look, DC-Fan hijacked my thread and went completely off-topic just to turn it into into his anti-MCU hate agenda again. It's almost like he's being a troll. |
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Post by DC-Fan on May 29, 2018 22:45:36 GMT
Didn't Superman jam several trees through somebody's Truck over a little argument? That trucker was an asshole who was harassing a waitress and thinking he could bully anyone he wanted. |
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Post by DC-Fan on May 29, 2018 22:58:46 GMT
This is why MCU is so lame. Their most "heroic" hero is a guy who: 1. Couldn't pass the physical to get into the Army because he was too lazy to exercise and train like the other soldiers did. 2. Stole the rank of Captain from other more experienced and more qualified officers who had worked their butts off for many years to put themselves in line for a promotion. 3. Obstructed justice and became an accessory to murder by aiding and abetting a double-murderer to escape from the authorities. 4. Acts like a tyrant who believes that he shouldn't have to answer to the people and that he alone should decide what's best for the people. Oh look, DC-Fan hijacked my thread and went completely off-topic just to turn it into into his anti-MCU hate agenda again. It's almost like he's being a troll. No, I just think it's funny how MCU's most "heroic" hero isn't much of a hero, which means there isn't much heroism to choose from in MCU. Heck, these MCU "heroes" were so selfish with their own agendas that they even refused to work together when the universe was at stake and thereby let a madman kill more than half the universe. They should be ashamed to even call themselves "heroes" after that fiasco. |
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Post by Skaathar on May 29, 2018 23:05:36 GMT
Oh look, DC-Fan hijacked my thread and went completely off-topic just to turn it into into his anti-MCU hate agenda again. It's almost like he's being a troll. No, I just think it's funny how MCU's most "heroic" hero isn't much of a hero, which means there isn't much heroism to choose from in MCU. Heck, these MCU "heroes" were so selfish with their own agendas that they even refused to work together when the universe was at stake and thereby let a madman kill more than half the universe. They should be ashamed to even call themselves "heroes" after that fiasco. Like I said, you completely went off topic and started in your anti-MCU hate speech again. You just proved it yet again. |
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