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Post by Terrapin Station on Jun 7, 2018 13:53:50 GMT
Can kids handle the emotions involved with playing music? Are you seriously comparing playing music to sex? No. Not at all. I'm asking a question. There's a reason I'm asking the question, but I doubt we'd ever get to it, because no one will refrain from either reverting to their telemarketing script or alternatively having emotional outbursts.
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Post by islandmur on Jun 7, 2018 13:54:05 GMT
It's not just emotion... Do you honestly not see a difference between an 18-year old and an 8-year old? Are there any differences in your head? I'm gonna assume yes... because... You can't be that fucking stupid: Do you not understand that those differences have significance? People change as they mature both physically and mentally. You not being able to understand this basic concept is mind boggling... and a little creepy. No two numerically distinct things are the same. Realism about universals/types is a mistaken view. Nominalism is rather the accurate view. So an 18-year-old and an 8-year-old are different, just as two 8-year-olds are different. Physically 8 year olds are not that different. There might be exceptions of course due to genetics but those are rare and few between. Even genius children still have the emotions of a child even if they have genius IQ's or are a prodigy in something. Their are children
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jun 7, 2018 13:54:46 GMT
Obviously that's emotional, since there aren't facts re whether people are idiots. Oh... Your posts are factual enough to make that fact a fact. You argue kind of like Pee Wee Herman.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jun 7, 2018 13:55:36 GMT
No two numerically distinct things are the same. Realism about universals/types is a mistaken view. Nominalism is rather the accurate view. So an 18-year-old and an 8-year-old are different, just as two 8-year-olds are different. Physically 8 year olds are not that different. There might be exceptions of course due to genetics but those are rare and few between. Even genius children still have the emotions of a child even if they have genius IQ's or are a prodigy in something. Their are children Simply asserting type realism isn't actually an argument against nominalism. I doubt you know much about nominalism or that you care at all, but under nominalism two electrons aren't even the same.
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Post by islandmur on Jun 7, 2018 13:57:34 GMT
Emotions are part of the make up of being human. However one must learn to deal with different types of emotions and certain emotions can be handled early and others not. A child can not handle the emotions that comes from sex too early because just as his/her body is not ready for it, neither is her/his mind. It is the role of parents and society / community to prepare a child for life as an adult. Adults do not let children overindulge in food because they would get sick (even if the child consented), you steer them away from all types of danger whether they want it or not. It is your job as an adult to make certain they interact with things when they are ready for it and not before. Can kids handle the emotions involved with playing music? I think that would depend on the music. You seem to be implying if they can handle emotions involved in music they can handle emotions involed in sex.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jun 7, 2018 13:58:54 GMT
Can kids handle the emotions involved with playing music? I think that would depend on the music. You seem to be implying if they can handle emotions involved in music they can handle emotions involed in sex. I'm asking you questions. If you take a question to amount to an implication,that's on you. In what way would it depend on the music?
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Post by Vegas on Jun 7, 2018 14:01:03 GMT
Are you seriously comparing playing music to sex? No. Not at all. I'm asking a question. There's a reason I'm asking the question, but I doubt we'd ever get to it, because no one will refrain from either reverting to their telemarketing script or alternatively having emotional outbursts. Then just spit your point out, you fucking moron. We don't have to jump through your hoops for your idea to be valid if it is... SPOILER ALERT: It ain't.
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Post by Vegas on Jun 7, 2018 14:03:30 GMT
Can kids handle the emotions involved with playing music? I think that would depend on the music. You seem to be implying if they can handle emotions involved in music they can handle emotions involed in sex.
Already been dealing with this since the "kids consent to playing football" crap.... He'll say that's not what he's doing... but, that is exactly what the hell he is doing.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jun 7, 2018 14:03:44 GMT
No. Not at all. I'm asking a question. There's a reason I'm asking the question, but I doubt we'd ever get to it, because no one will refrain from either reverting to their telemarketing script or alternatively having emotional outbursts. Then just spit your point out, you fucking moron. I have no interest in presenting a telemarketing script myself. That would do absolutely no good. I have an interest in getting people to think. I don't have a lot of faith that it will work, but that's the only thing I'm interested in when it comes to conversations like this.
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Post by Vegas on Jun 7, 2018 14:06:43 GMT
Then just spit your point out, you fucking moron. I have no interest in presenting a telemarketing script myself. That would do absolutely no good. I have an interest in getting people to think. I don't have a lot of faith that it will work, but that's the only thing I'm interested in when it comes to conversations like this. Beings how since you seem to lack the ability to perform that task yourself...…. Seriously, knock off the stupid shit and just say what you mean.... Just get to your point or just shut the hell up.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jun 7, 2018 14:10:14 GMT
I have no interest in presenting a telemarketing script myself. That would do absolutely no good. I have an interest in getting people to think. I don't have a lot of faith that it will work, but that's the only thing I'm interested in when it comes to conversations like this. Beings how since you seem to lack the ability to perform that task yourself...…. Seriously, knock off the stupid shit and just say what you mean.... Just get to your point or just shut the hell up.So maybe you could try answering since IslandMur seems to have abandoned us already. Do you agree that kids are capable of handling the emotions involved with some music and maybe not other music? What makes the difference?
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Post by islandmur on Jun 7, 2018 14:14:53 GMT
I think that would depend on the music. You seem to be implying if they can handle emotions involved in music they can handle emotions involed in sex. I'm asking you questions. If you take a question to amount to an implication,that's on you. In what way would it depend on the music? Why are you asking this question?
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Post by Vegas on Jun 7, 2018 14:15:50 GMT
Beings how since you seem to lack the ability to perform that task yourself...…. Seriously, knock off the stupid shit and just say what you mean.... Just get to your point or just shut the hell up.So maybe you could try answering since IslandMur seems to have abandoned us already. Do you agree that kids are capable of handling the emotions involved with some music and maybe not other music? What makes the difference? The maturity of the music. You do realize that there is a difference between "Old MacDonald" and "Down With The Sickness"?.... Right?
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jun 7, 2018 14:16:36 GMT
I'm asking you questions. If you take a question to amount to an implication,that's on you. In what way would it depend on the music? Why are you asking this question? To get us to think about the claims we're making about emotions; just what we're claiming ontologically, just how we're purporting to know what we're claiming epistemologically.
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Post by Vegas on Jun 7, 2018 14:16:53 GMT
I'm asking you questions. If you take a question to amount to an implication,that's on you. In what way would it depend on the music? Why are you asking this question? Cause he's an idiot.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jun 7, 2018 14:17:32 GMT
So maybe you could try answering since IslandMur seems to have abandoned us already. Do you agree that kids are capable of handling the emotions involved with some music and maybe not other music? What makes the difference? The maturity of the music. You do realize that there is a difference between "Old MacDonald" and "Down With The Sickness"?.... Right? So, first, just how are you defining maturity of music? (And I'm presuming that you're not referring to lyrics per se, but music.)
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Post by islandmur on Jun 7, 2018 14:19:29 GMT
Then just spit your point out, you fucking moron. I have no interest in presenting a telemarketing script myself. That would do absolutely no good. I have an interest in getting people to think. I don't have a lot of faith that it will work, but that's the only thing I'm interested in when it comes to conversations like this. How condescending.
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Post by Vegas on Jun 7, 2018 14:21:47 GMT
The maturity of the music. You do realize that there is a difference between "Old MacDonald" and "Down With The Sickness"?.... Right? So, first, just how are you defining maturity of music? (And I'm presuming that you're not referring to lyrics per se, but music.) Jesus Christ. Even if we establish the differences between "Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star" and "B.Y.O.B.".... Music still isn't sex. I'm sure this runaround is amusing as you go house to house letting people know that you just moved into their neighborhood and all, but... JUST TELL WHY YOU THINK THAT AN ADULT CAN PORK A CHILD AND BE DONE WITH IT....
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jun 7, 2018 14:22:05 GMT
I have no interest in presenting a telemarketing script myself. That would do absolutely no good. I have an interest in getting people to think. I don't have a lot of faith that it will work, but that's the only thing I'm interested in when it comes to conversations like this. How condescending. And a stereotypical response with respect to why it usually won't work. Everyone believes they have no need to think about things they've never thought about before. (Or even worse, believes there's nothing they haven't thought about before.)
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jun 7, 2018 14:23:34 GMT
So, first, just how are you defining maturity of music? (And I'm presuming that you're not referring to lyrics per se, but music.) Jesus Christ. Even if we establish the differences between "Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star" and "B.Y.O.B.".... Music still isn't sex. I'm sure this runaround is amusing as you go house to house letting people know that you just moved into their neighborhood and all, but... JUST TELL WHY YOU THINK THAT AN ADULT CAN PORK A CHILD AND BE DONE WITH IT.... No one is saying that music is sex. Re the other comment, I'm simply in favor of allowing anyone to do anything they consent to do, per the definition I use of consent. My view about that is not at all specific to sex, but that's all anyone ever wants to talk about, because there's is such an emotional objection to the idea of sex.
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