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Post by hobowar on Jun 3, 2018 11:24:17 GMT
It's not a joke. You're a moron. Even if it was a joke (It isn't), it wouldn't do anything to damage his credibility. He was still completely right about everything and the Avengers knew it. Ultron was never meant to be sinister, He was meant to challenge the Avengers morally, which is why the team all refer to themselves as monsters throughout the movie. How was it not a joke? He was using omelettes as a metaphor about killing people to achieve his goal. It was there to show that he lacked empathy and was willing to kill anyone that would get in his way. It's also why his plan changes to global extinction after the vision is taken from him.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jun 3, 2018 17:47:01 GMT
If you think Ultron made a joke about omelettes, you need your head examined. Ive rewatched the scene. The omellete line was meant as a joke. The way he says it. The tone of the exchange. The quick reply Stark gives about beating him making an omelette. Thor gives him an indifferent look, because its not a funny joke. That single line destroyed Ultrons credibility and made him look weak rather than sinister. The joke in that exchange comes from Stark. Thor gives Stark the look of "Really? Now?" And Stark doesn't think anyone can beat him. He makes light of everyone he goes up against.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 3, 2018 23:17:50 GMT
If you compare Kilmonger's performance to any single movie where Magneto appears, Kilmonger was a much stronger performance. Obviously Magneto is going to have an edge if you include all the movies he's been in. MCU fans have a right to say killmomger but real film making and real acting is different.
To say killmonger had a stronger performance than fassbender in first class is laughable.
Fassbender was so good in the role there was oscar talk of supporting nod and many mistook the movie for InGlorious bastards. the acting was that good. he showed many layers and sides to him which makes his performance factually stronger even emotional sides like this.
Please...this is too funny. if you change magneto's race the reception will not change. if you change killmonger's race, he is forgettable and another generic 1 dimensional villain.
So what exactly is it about that scene that makes Magneto better than Killmonger? Because it had big-scale CGI?
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Jun 3, 2018 23:50:18 GMT
If you compare Kilmonger's performance to any single movie where Magneto appears, Kilmonger was a much stronger performance. Obviously Magneto is going to have an edge if you include all the movies he's been in. MCU fans have a right to say killmomger but real film making and real acting is different.
To say killmonger had a stronger performance than fassbender in first class is laughable.
Fassbender was so good in the role there was oscar talk of supporting nod and many mistook the movie for InGlorious bastards. the acting was that good. he showed many layers and sides to him which makes his performance factually stronger even emotional sides like this.
Please...this is too funny. if you change magneto's race the reception will not change. if you change killmonger's race, he is forgettable and another generic 1 dimensional villain.
Now I know you're making shit up. When was there ever Oscar buzz for Michael Fassbender in the X-Men movies? He's a fantastic actor, and good in the part, nothing Oscar worthy about his performance though. Michael B. Jordan on the other hand IS getting Oscar talk for his performance as Killmonger.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 4, 2018 1:02:40 GMT
MCU fans have a right to say killmomger but real film making and real acting is different.
To say killmonger had a stronger performance than fassbender in first class is laughable. Fassbender was so good in the role there was oscar talk of supporting nod and many mistook the movie for InGlorious bastards. the acting was that good. he showed many layers and sides to him which makes his performance factually stronger even emotional sides like this. Please...this is too funny. if you change magneto's race the reception will not change. if you change killmonger's race, he is forgettable and another generic 1 dimensional villain.
Now I know you're making shit up. When was there ever Oscar buzz for Michael Fassbender in the X-Men movies? He's a fantastic actor, and good in the part, nothing Oscar worthy about his performance though. Michael B. Jordan on the other hand IS getting Oscar talk for his performance as Killmonger. Talk about making shit up. There's no Oscar talk at all for Michael B. Jordan's performance as Killmonger. It was just an unforgettable performance in an awful movie.
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Post by summers8 on Jun 4, 2018 7:16:42 GMT
MCU fans should not talk about CGI looking at black panther. it was black panther that was sharply criticised by honest folks for bad cgi not first class and that is fact.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 4, 2018 15:31:23 GMT
MCU fans should not talk about CGI looking at black panther. it was black panther that was sharply criticised by honest folks for bad cgi not first class and that is fact. Yes, but a bad cgi end fight doesn't make Killmonger a lesser villain than Magneto. Can you please try to keep up with the conversation?
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Post by blockbusted on Jun 4, 2018 19:59:29 GMT
MCU fans should not talk about CGI looking at black panther. it was black panther that was sharply criticised by honest folks for bad cgi not first class and that is fact. Yes, but a bad cgi end fight doesn't make Killmonger a lesser villain than Magneto. Can you please try to keep up with the conversation? Also, ‘X-Men: First Class’ somehow looked cheap overall, including CGI, costumes, makeup... you name a few.
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Post by hobowar on Jun 4, 2018 20:31:34 GMT
Yes, but a bad cgi end fight doesn't make Killmonger a lesser villain than Magneto. Can you please try to keep up with the conversation? Also, ‘X-Men: First Class’ somehow looked cheap overall, including CGI, costumes, makeup... you name a few. I liked First Class, but Beast looked fucking horrendous.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 4, 2018 20:43:40 GMT
Also, ‘X-Men: First Class’ somehow looked cheap overall, including CGI, costumes, makeup... you name a few. I liked First Class, but Beast looked fucking horrendous. Well the X-men franchise has always had crappy costumes. They're unimaginative, dull, not comic-accurate and not really very practical either.
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Post by DSDSquared on Jun 5, 2018 16:33:23 GMT
Let's get serious here. Magneto is one of the best villains of all time. Both actors were better than Jordan as Killmonger, IMO.
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