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Post by clusium on Jun 2, 2018 22:15:45 GMT
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 3, 2018 5:48:29 GMT
That painting does make her look kind of mannish. Could Jezebel have been a transgender?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jun 3, 2018 11:43:06 GMT
While the Kings books were likely written by a dude, she doesn't talk "like a man".
Speech in the Bible across most characters is often to address the context or plot of the scene.
We tend to learn their personalities through their actions.
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Post by clusium on Jun 3, 2018 11:53:37 GMT
While the Kings books were likely written by a dude, she doesn't talk "like a man". Speech in the Bible across most characters is often to address the context or plot of the scene. We tend to learn their personalities through their actions. Yeah, but, the way women's dialogue is portrayed in Scripture is different than the way men's dialogue is (according the authors of this study). They found that Jezebel's line of questioning & dialogue to be far more direct, than most other women's, & that was what the article was basically about.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jun 3, 2018 12:12:44 GMT
While the Kings books were likely written by a dude, she doesn't talk "like a man". Speech in the Bible across most characters is often to address the context or plot of the scene. We tend to learn their personalities through their actions. Yeah, but, the way women's dialogue is portrayed in Scripture is different than the way men's dialogue is (according the authors of this study). They found that Jezebel's line of questioning & dialogue to be far more direct, than most other women's, & that was what the article was basically about. Again, it depends on the context of the scene. Her speech is like that of a ruler and there just weren't a lot of female rulers. There weren't a lot of dudes that talked like her either. This statement is not rocket science. She co-ruled with her horrible husband.
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Post by clusium on Jun 3, 2018 15:58:12 GMT
Yeah, but, the way women's dialogue is portrayed in Scripture is different than the way men's dialogue is (according the authors of this study). They found that Jezebel's line of questioning & dialogue to be far more direct, than most other women's, & that was what the article was basically about. Again, it depends on the context of the scene. Her speech is like that of a ruler and there just weren't a lot of female rulers. There weren't a lot of dudes that talked like her either. This statement is not rocket science. She co-ruled with her horrible husband. To a certain degree there was a lot of female rulers. It was just that they were either a) the mother of the male ruler (which was the more common, as most male rulers back then, such as emperors, kings, princes, etc., practiced polygamy) or the wife of the male ruler (during the rare occasions when it was a monogamous marriage).
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jun 3, 2018 17:42:21 GMT
Again, it depends on the context of the scene. Her speech is like that of a ruler and there just weren't a lot of female rulers. There weren't a lot of dudes that talked like her either. This statement is not rocket science. She co-ruled with her horrible husband. To a certain degree there was a lot of female rulers. It was just that they were either a) the mother of the male ruler (which was the more common, as most male rulers back then, such as emperors, kings, princes, etc., practiced polygamy) or the wife of the male ruler (during the rare occasions when it was a monogamous marriage). They were still subordinate to the ruler. Jezebel wanted to be a BOSS and succeeded and we just have the words to go along with it. There were plenty of women royals that acted badly, but their actions described their personality more than their words. The end results regarding influence is largely the same.
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