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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 20:45:16 GMT
First let me say that Ragnorockers is in my top five MCU movies. I'm a big fan. And although I do think the humor in the MCU can be excessive- it works in this movie and it works really really well. BUT... That one joke during the destruction of Asgard where Korg rambles on about how it can be rebuilt and then, when it explodes says "Oh those foundations are gone. Never mind!" is my most hated joke in the entire MCU. If there should ever be a serious moment in a Thor movie it's the destruction of Asgard, his home and kingdom. You'd think Marvel would recognize this and actually let the moment play with actual emotion! But NO! God forbid these movies have anything serious in them! We can't let the dim witted audience get confused by emotion! We can't trust that they just might be mature enough to handle it! We can't risk anyone actually feeling anything! They might get scared and refuse to see our next movie... So let's ruin this would be powerful moment with a lame stupid completely gratuitous JOKE!  TERRIBLE!!!!!@!!!&!1 APPAULING!!!!$!!!6!!!!2 HORRENDOUS!!!!!!€£¥!!!% Again, I do absolutely love this movie. But that joke is fucking unforgivable. Anyway, thanks for letting me vent. As if anyone could stop me! (this last line is an inside joke for BATouttaheck  ) |
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Post by charzhino on Jun 5, 2018 20:59:39 GMT
Ive seen MCU fanatics defend that joke to high hills. They really have no shame.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jun 5, 2018 21:04:48 GMT
That's modern Disney for you.
Everything is a joke (except the destruction of Wakanda).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 21:09:45 GMT
Ive seen MCU fanatics defend that joke to high hills. They really have no shame. My only real problem with the "Marvel humor" is that sometimes they just don't know when to shut the hell up and avoid ruining a serious moment. Its clearly a delibrate attempt to keep things "light" for general audiences. Civil War and Infinity War resist this impulse thankfully. |
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Post by charzhino on Jun 5, 2018 21:20:23 GMT
Ive seen MCU fanatics defend that joke to high hills. They really have no shame. My only real problem with the "Marvel humor" is that sometimes they just don't know when to shut the hell up and avoid ruining a serious moment. Its clearly a delibrate attempt to keep things "light" for general audiences. Civil War and Infinity War resist this impulse thankfully. Its to keep the kids happy and smiling even though horrific things are happening. And whats sadder is some adults buy that kinda humour Korg says at the end. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 21:30:14 GMT
My only real problem with the "Marvel humor" is that sometimes they just don't know when to shut the hell up and avoid ruining a serious moment. Its clearly a delibrate attempt to keep things "light" for general audiences. Civil War and Infinity War resist this impulse thankfully. Its to keep the kids happy and smiling even though horrific things are happening. And whats sadder is some adults buy that kinda humour Korg says at the end. That, and it's often used to wink at the audience. Especially in movies like Ant Man and Doctor Strange. Marvel is sometimes like an extremely insecure person that constantly mocks himself because he's afraid that if he doesn't do it first, others will. Unfortunately this formula extends to tested A listers as well... Compare the end of Spider-Man (2002) to Homecoming... In one, Peter chooses the responsibility of being a hero over his love, Mary Jane. This dramatic moment is followed by an epic shot of Spidey swinging through New York. Now, take the other, Peter makes a similar choice in choosing to be a "friendly neighborhood" Spiderman over the fame and glory of being an Avenger... But it's packed full of jokes featuring Stark. Then, we see an (almost) epic shot of Peter in costume... But it is followed by a joke with Aunt May catching him to end the movie. Because OF COURSE it had to end with a joke. You couldn't just have that epic shot. (Never mind the fact that Aunt May finding out Peter's identity should be a serious profound moment!) |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jun 5, 2018 22:03:59 GMT
Yeah i didn't like it either, despite liking Korg.
That's why i appreciated Infinity War. The Russo's had a good balanced.
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Post by charzhino on Jun 5, 2018 22:18:19 GMT
Never mind the fact that Aunt May finding out Peter's identity should be a serious profound moment!) What else do you expect from Disney. They made the scene when Rey gives Lukes lightsaber back at the start and he tosses it away like trash just for a ha-ha moment. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 23:53:38 GMT
Never mind the fact that Aunt May finding out Peter's identity should be a serious profound moment!) What else do you expect from Disney. They made the scene when Rey gives Lukes lightsaber back at the start and he tosses it away like trash just for a ha-ha moment. I was actually talking with my friend the other day about why he didn't just hand it back. Honestly that just ruined the potentially powerful set up from TFA. |
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Post by hobowar on Jun 6, 2018 0:14:42 GMT
What else do you expect from Disney. They made the scene when Rey gives Lukes lightsaber back at the start and he tosses it away like trash just for a ha-ha moment. I was actually talking with my friend the other day about why he didn't just hand it back. Honestly that just ruined the potentially powerful set up from TFA. He probably didn't want to encourage her. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2018 16:54:58 GMT
I wish someone like Archie were here to argue my points. I miss a good debate...
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Post by scabab on Jun 6, 2018 17:58:46 GMT
It could have been worse, after Peter Parker died in Tony Stark's arms, Stark could have made a joke about another one biting the dust.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2018 18:06:26 GMT
It could have been worse, after Peter Parker died in Tony Stark's arms, Stark could have made a joke about another one biting the dust. During the entire ending I was thinking "please, don't ruin this with a joke"... I half expected Korg to show up and say "Hey, mang. Don't worry. We can bring him back. We just need those glowing rock things. And, uh-oh. They're gone. Sorry" *audience erupts in laughter* |
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Post by charzhino on Jun 6, 2018 18:35:32 GMT
I wish someone like Archie were here to argue my points. I miss a good debate... He would say something like, I just dont understands how you think its a problem I really dont. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2018 20:31:11 GMT
I wish someone like Archie were here to argue my points. I miss a good debate... He would say something like, I just dont understands how you think its a problem I really dont. Yup! Classic ArArArArArch Sanston. |
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Post by politicidal on Jun 6, 2018 20:38:38 GMT
Yeah it was pretty jarring.
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Post by Archelaus on Jun 6, 2018 20:45:56 GMT
I didn't like that moment either.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 7, 2018 20:09:32 GMT
Yeah. The joke itself was pretty funny but its timing was in bad taste. It's like making a fart joke in a funeral.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jun 7, 2018 20:57:27 GMT
That's modern Disney for you. Everything is a joke (except the destruction of Wakanda). Oh yeah! No ones gonna be making jokes if that place gets blown up! |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jun 7, 2018 21:00:14 GMT
It could have been worse, after Peter Parker died in Tony Stark's arms, Stark could have made a joke about another one biting the dust. The dust!!! HA HAA HHAHAHAH AHAHH HAH AHH!! Oh shit, the dust! Get it? because when they died they turned into dust...
dust...
is this thing on?
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