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Post by drystyx on Jun 6, 2018 16:20:51 GMT
The wackos who bash Christianity have zero sense of Reality. That's just a documented fact with every word they say.
Some will claim Hitler was Christian, and some now even claim Vlad the Impaler was Christian.
Why? Because Hitler and Vlad claimed to be? (Actually, Hitler made more claims for Paganism than anything, but he was a total "say whatever gets you a cookie" person)
Well, believing the words of Hitler and/or Vlad is something only a certified retard would do. No offense to those diagnosed as retards, because this is the true way to diagnose a "retard".
Christian bashers cost the Democrat party plenty of presidential elections. They are so self righteous, though, that they refuse to acknowledge it. I've seen them push moderates away with their divisiveness and scare tactics. Obama's people managed to curb them just enough to win his presidency, but none of the others could keep these maniacs quiet.
In short, Christian bashers campaigned for Donald Trump with their hate, and he needs to thank them for their support. That's a simple fact. But again, with the Christian bashers being totally out of touch with reality, I doubt if 2% of them will ever face up to this fact. I'm sure some will prove me right by whining about it right here. See below for the retarded Christian bashers being totally out of control. Maybe they'll surprise me by not doing it. They could be so livid that they can't speak or type. But I don't expect any of them to be able to type for themselves or read for themselves any way.
The Christian bashers will claim that Christianity killed the native Americans. An objective look at History will show that plagues did the wiping out. The bashers will convince themselves that Christians were geniuses who used germ warfare to do this for some reason that the bashers will also make up. Never mind that the Christian missionaries tried to curb the slaughter that the mercantile invaders brought about. The bashers insist on living in fantasy worlds.
Never mind that the Crusades were a result of the persecution of Christians, and that the slaughters of Moslems were done by knights and kings who did so for mercantile reasons, not religious.
Never mind that the worst popes weren't Christian by any means. When a Christian became pope, he was persecuted by what can only be called "demon possessed" cardinals who later deposed the Celestine types to become the Boniface VIII and Clement V types.
Never mind reality. It doesn't fit into the agenda of Christian bashing, an agenda that cannot possibly have any natural explanation. An agenda that can only be motivated by devil or demon. We all get attacked inside by devil and demons. Mature people admit it. Retards are afraid of the truth, and live in fantasy worlds.
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Post by general313 on Jun 6, 2018 17:18:56 GMT
This reminds me of someone else that likes to make sweeping generalizations and pronouncements with the hope that the lack of evidence for their argument will go unnoticed.
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Post by progressiveelement on Jun 6, 2018 17:31:37 GMT
I guess Sigismund, a Holy Roman Emperor, was having a case of shits and giggles when he made Vlad's daddy a member of the Christian military organization, the Order of the Dragon, whence the name Dracul.
Vlad the 3rd, the Impaling One, was a man seen as a hero to many Christian peoples in his neck of the woods. Even the Pope was like, "yeah, you da man!" It was not like anyone at the time was a bleeding heart pussy when it came to butchering the enemies of God. I know its difficult to understand when your own country doesn't have a history worth shit beyond Columbus's trek, but these things happened. 😝
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Post by Rodney Farber on Jun 6, 2018 19:42:29 GMT
The wackos who bash Christianity have zero sense of Reality. That's just a documented fact with every word they say. That's just a documented fact ... I've only read the first two sentences. Before I read further, how about showing us some of that documentation.
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Post by clusium on Jun 6, 2018 19:54:32 GMT
The wackos who bash Christianity have zero sense of Reality. That's just a documented fact with every word they say. Some will claim Hitler was Christian, and some now even claim Vlad the Impaler was Christian. Why? Because Hitler and Vlad claimed to be? (Actually, Hitler made more claims for Paganism than anything, but he was a total "say whatever gets you a cookie" person) Well, believing the words of Hitler and/or Vlad is something only a certified retard would do. No offense to those diagnosed as retards, because this is the true way to diagnose a "retard". Christian bashers cost the Democrat party plenty of presidential elections. They are so self righteous, though, that they refuse to acknowledge it. I've seen them push moderates away with their divisiveness and scare tactics. Obama's people managed to curb them just enough to win his presidency, but none of the others could keep these maniacs quiet. In short, Christian bashers campaigned for Donald Trump with their hate, and he needs to thank them for their support. That's a simple fact. But again, with the Christian bashers being totally out of touch with reality, I doubt if 2% of them will ever face up to this fact. I'm sure some will prove me right by whining about it right here. See below for the retarded Christian bashers being totally out of control. Maybe they'll surprise me by not doing it. They could be so livid that they can't speak or type. But I don't expect any of them to be able to type for themselves or read for themselves any way. The Christian bashers will claim that Christianity killed the native Americans. An objective look at History will show that plagues did the wiping out. The bashers will convince themselves that Christians were geniuses who used germ warfare to do this for some reason that the bashers will also make up. Never mind that the Christian missionaries tried to curb the slaughter that the mercantile invaders brought about. The bashers insist on living in fantasy worlds. Never mind that the Crusades were a result of the persecution of Christians, and that the slaughters of Moslems were done by knights and kings who did so for mercantile reasons, not religious. Never mind that the worst popes weren't Christian by any means. When a Christian became pope, he was persecuted by what can only be called "demon possessed" cardinals who later deposed the Celestine types to become the Boniface VIII and Clement V types. Never mind reality. It doesn't fit into the agenda of Christian bashing, an agenda that cannot possibly have any natural explanation. An agenda that can only be motivated by devil or demon. We all get attacked inside by devil and demons. Mature people admit it. Retards are afraid of the truth, and live in fantasy worlds. Everything you said here is spot-on, in particular, about Hitler being into pagan religions & divination, the occult, etc. Shortly before I became a regular on the RFS message forum, back on IMDB, I was posting TPOTC message forum, & met so many very hostile anti-christian bigots there, & they said that Hitler was Christian. When I pointed out that no, he was into paganism & the occult, they asked me for sources, which I showed them plenty, & they kept dismissing them all. Then they would give their own sources that said he was a Christian, & those sources showed that Hitler & the Nazis tried to rearrange Christ & Christianity into "their own image," in order to control the people of Germany. I pointed out that those only showed that Hitler really was't Christian, because what they had written down had nothing to do with Christian teaching about Jesus, they said "Hitler said he was a Christian, so I won't refute his choice to be it," or something along those lines.
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Post by progressiveelement on Jun 6, 2018 21:35:23 GMT
The wackos who bash Christianity have zero sense of Reality. That's just a documented fact with every word they say. Some will claim Hitler was Christian, and some now even claim Vlad the Impaler was Christian. Why? Because Hitler and Vlad claimed to be? (Actually, Hitler made more claims for Paganism than anything, but he was a total "say whatever gets you a cookie" person) Well, believing the words of Hitler and/or Vlad is something only a certified retard would do. No offense to those diagnosed as retards, because this is the true way to diagnose a "retard". Christian bashers cost the Democrat party plenty of presidential elections. They are so self righteous, though, that they refuse to acknowledge it. I've seen them push moderates away with their divisiveness and scare tactics. Obama's people managed to curb them just enough to win his presidency, but none of the others could keep these maniacs quiet. In short, Christian bashers campaigned for Donald Trump with their hate, and he needs to thank them for their support. That's a simple fact. But again, with the Christian bashers being totally out of touch with reality, I doubt if 2% of them will ever face up to this fact. I'm sure some will prove me right by whining about it right here. See below for the retarded Christian bashers being totally out of control. Maybe they'll surprise me by not doing it. They could be so livid that they can't speak or type. But I don't expect any of them to be able to type for themselves or read for themselves any way. The Christian bashers will claim that Christianity killed the native Americans. An objective look at History will show that plagues did the wiping out. The bashers will convince themselves that Christians were geniuses who used germ warfare to do this for some reason that the bashers will also make up. Never mind that the Christian missionaries tried to curb the slaughter that the mercantile invaders brought about. The bashers insist on living in fantasy worlds. Never mind that the Crusades were a result of the persecution of Christians, and that the slaughters of Moslems were done by knights and kings who did so for mercantile reasons, not religious. Never mind that the worst popes weren't Christian by any means. When a Christian became pope, he was persecuted by what can only be called "demon possessed" cardinals who later deposed the Celestine types to become the Boniface VIII and Clement V types. Never mind reality. It doesn't fit into the agenda of Christian bashing, an agenda that cannot possibly have any natural explanation. An agenda that can only be motivated by devil or demon. We all get attacked inside by devil and demons. Mature people admit it. Retards are afraid of the truth, and live in fantasy worlds. Everything you said here is spot-on, in particular, about Hitler being into pagan religions & divination, the occult, etc. Shortly before I became a regular on the RFS message forum, back on IMDB, I was posting TPOTC message forum, & met so many very hostile anti-christian bigots there, & they said that Hitler was Christian. When I pointed out that no, he was into paganism & the occult, they asked me for sources, which I showed them plenty, & they kept dismissing them all. Then they would give their own sources that said he was a Christian, & those sources showed that Hitler & the Nazis tried to rearrange Christ & Christianity into "their own image," in order to control the people of Germany. I pointed out that those only showed that Hitler really was't Christian, because what they had written down had nothing to do with Christian teaching about Jesus, they said "Hitler said he was a Christian, so I won't refute his choice to be it," or something along those lines. Hitler was full of shit, but Germany didn't suddenly turn atheist. The more conservative folk of Germany were the ones he had much support of. A defeated nation humiliated, an economy in shambles, along comes a man who exudes power, strength, national pride. Easy to think yourself too good to follow someone like that, but he was the shining light in a time of darkness. 😜 How about Vlad then? He was no atheist. He was a vicious, sadistic, cruel psychopath, but he was a member of a Christian military order, he thought he was doing God's work, he had plenty of support. He wasn't a vampire, had nothing to do with occultism. The whole Vlad=Dracula thing was mainly due to a fad in the 60s and 70s, psychological and historical literary criticism, treating fictional characters as if they were real people. It was horseshit then, and still is. 😎
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Post by maya55555 on Jun 6, 2018 21:42:33 GMT
Proggy
You are guilty as most posters are on these boards, of thinking in the 20th---21st C. When you study history, your prospective will be changed if you go into that period's mindset.
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Post by progressiveelement on Jun 6, 2018 21:58:09 GMT
Proggy
You are guilty as most posters are on these boards, of thinking in the 20th---21st C. When you study history, your prospective will be changed if you go into that period's mindset. This isn't me bashing Christianity. 😜 This is human fault. Hitler, believer or no believer, knew how to manipulate people. And he came along at a time and place that unfortunately was perfect for his lot to thrive. Vlad was actually quite typical of his time. A time when war crimes usually meant being in league with the enemy. What people think of him in terms of beliefs doesn't matter, he thought he was doing good. 😎 He had the name Dracul, support of the Pope, nobody to whine at him for violating rights of his foes. He just happened to do it in a way that nowadays seems a bit overkill. 😀
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Post by clusium on Jun 6, 2018 22:18:42 GMT
Everything you said here is spot-on, in particular, about Hitler being into pagan religions & divination, the occult, etc. Shortly before I became a regular on the RFS message forum, back on IMDB, I was posting TPOTC message forum, & met so many very hostile anti-christian bigots there, & they said that Hitler was Christian. When I pointed out that no, he was into paganism & the occult, they asked me for sources, which I showed them plenty, & they kept dismissing them all. Then they would give their own sources that said he was a Christian, & those sources showed that Hitler & the Nazis tried to rearrange Christ & Christianity into "their own image," in order to control the people of Germany. I pointed out that those only showed that Hitler really was't Christian, because what they had written down had nothing to do with Christian teaching about Jesus, they said "Hitler said he was a Christian, so I won't refute his choice to be it," or something along those lines. Hitler was full of shit, but Germany didn't suddenly turn atheist. The more conservative folk of Germany were the ones he had much support of. A defeated nation humiliated, an economy in shambles, along comes a man who exudes power, strength, national pride. Easy to think yourself too good to follow someone like that, but he was the shining light in a time of darkness. 😜 How about Vlad then? He was no atheist. He was a vicious, sadistic, cruel psychopath, but he was a member of a Christian military order, he thought he was doing God's work, he had plenty of support. He wasn't a vampire, had nothing to do with occultism. The whole Vlad=Dracula thing was mainly due to a fad in the 60s and 70s, psychological and historical literary criticism, treating fictional characters as if they were real people. It was horseshit then, and still is. 😎 Vlad Tepes is revered as a national hero in Romania. He led the Romanians in revolt against the Ottoman Turks that were overrunning their country. I guess it all came down to who was the lesser of 2 evils.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Jun 6, 2018 22:32:07 GMT
You believe a donkey can talk, a burning bush can talk, a gut walked on water, another guy got ate by a whale and lived, a 600 year old man built a boat big enough to get two of every creature eon Earth on it, etc.
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Post by clusium on Jun 6, 2018 22:47:26 GMT
You believe a donkey can talk, a burning bush can talk, a gut walked on water, another guy got ate by a whale and lived, a 600 year old man built a boat big enough to get two of every creature eon Earth on it, etc. DRYSTYX BELIEVES THAT A GUT HAS WALKED ON WATER?!?!?! WOW!!!!
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Post by general313 on Jun 7, 2018 15:11:52 GMT
The wackos who bash Christianity have zero sense of Reality. That's just a documented fact with every word they say. That's just a documented fact ... I've only read the first two sentences. Before I read further, how about showing us some of that documentation. Don't hold your breath awaiting a reply. The OP always wusses out when challenged to provide evidence for his made up assertions.
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Post by captainbryce on Jun 7, 2018 18:41:14 GMT
Rest assured I am very confident that the boards resident fundamentalists will agree with you. And that’s really all the validation you were looking for or expecting, so it all works out. Whether the majority of people here (which are not fundamentalists) think that you and the other 3 or 4 of you are certifiable retards who exist in an alternative universe rules by alternative facts is irrelevant.
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Post by dividavi on Jun 9, 2018 3:52:09 GMT
The wackos who bash Christianity have zero sense of Reality. That's just a documented fact with every word they say. Some will claim Hitler was Christian, and some now even claim Vlad the Impaler was Christian. Why? Because Hitler and Vlad claimed to be? (Actually, Hitler made more claims for Paganism than anything, but he was a total "say whatever gets you a cookie" person) Here's one source that shows the contrary: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_HitlerAnother source is the Times (London) for July 1933. I don't believe it's accessible on the internet but Hitler's remarks to a Times reporter were printed on the July 2 or July 4 edition and can be found by examining microfilms for that period. Local university libraries should have copies. Anyway, the rumor going around Germany in summer 1933 was that the relatively new Chancellor (since January 30, 1933) would soon declare himself a Protestant. That's what Reich Bishop Ludwig Mueller was saying. Hitler thought otherwise, and said so. "I am a Catholic. I have no place in the Evangelical Church," is what he said to the Times (London) reporter. Look it up.
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Post by clusium on Jun 9, 2018 4:52:46 GMT
The wackos who bash Christianity have zero sense of Reality. That's just a documented fact with every word they say. Some will claim Hitler was Christian, and some now even claim Vlad the Impaler was Christian. Why? Because Hitler and Vlad claimed to be? (Actually, Hitler made more claims for Paganism than anything, but he was a total "say whatever gets you a cookie" person) Here's one source that shows the contrary: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_HitlerAnother source is the Times (London) for July 1933. I don't believe it's accessible on the internet but Hitler's remarks to a Times reporter were printed on the July 2 or July 4 edition and can be found by examining microfilms for that period. Local university libraries should have copies. Anyway, the rumor going around Germany in summer 1933 was that the relatively new Chancellor (since January 30, 1933) would soon declare himself a Protestant. That's what Reich Bishop Ludwig Mueller was saying. Hitler thought otherwise, and said so. "I am a Catholic. I have no place in the Evangelical Church," is what he said to the Times (London) reporter. Look it up. Hitler was such a devoted Catholic, he conspired to have Pope Pius XII forcibly taken from the Vatican. Hitler Conspired To Have The Pope Kidnapped
Alleged Plot To Kidnap Pope Pius XII
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Post by mslo79 on Jun 9, 2018 7:00:27 GMT
Hell, I think the party itself cost themselves elections as they are opposed to traditional values/morals etc which makes many default to republican on that alone as many vote based around God and in this regard it favors republicans because they don't support immoral things like abortion/gay agenda etc etc and like I always say, those who can't even get a basic life issue correct (i.e. the truth that abortion is gravely immoral(basically a evil act)), will be backwards in many other moral areas to. so I don't think it's too much 'christian bashers' but that the democratic party is just getting more and more anti-christian as, like I mentioned above, they support immoral things (and serious ones at that) that God (i.e. The Holy Trinity(Father/Son(Jesus Christ)/Holy Spirit)) opposes. basically liberals/democrats just went-off-the-rails as time passed as they are declining further and further morally and they call it 'progress' and then see republicans, who stick to more traditional values etc, as the bad guys. but it's almost funny how some people, who are basically corrupt etc, try to label the good guys as the bad guys and themselves as good when they are the shady ones. basically one of the bigger problems with liberals, who tend to be more of the godless type, is that morality is subjective for them where as for us conservatives, who base morality around Christianity, which means around God, we know morality is objective and there are unchangeable truths whether we like it or not. so they basically make things up as they go along which will inevitably lead to a moral decline when one abandons God. basically where does it end for liberals? ; like I said before, it will probably be a matter of time before they support pedophiles (and the like). that might sound laughable now but given the moral decline of their party over the last 20-50 years or so things are going to get even worse for em as they get their way with one issue and then they move onto the next. basically they just keep on destroying God's morality to sum it up and as that saying goes, 'you reap what you sow'. many are going to have to learn the hard way it seems. NOTE: I am not saying all liberals are horrible etc, as some are still decent enough people, but what I said I think applies in a more basic sense to the two parties as a whole. hell, it's almost like they are more for Islam than Christianity lately and those two are opposed as one is tied to God and the other is basically from the devil when you cut through the BS and tell it like it is. but they will say that's 'racist' or 'hateful' etc when you tell the truth like that. so when they won't even acknowledge this... they clearly won't be able to fix anything in relation to this. dividavilets assume what's said there is accurate for the sake of argument... it's obvious he's not a true Catholic as actions speak louder than words. people can claim they are something, say Catholic etc, but if their actions are contrary to that, which Hitler's actions are clearly not Catholic (basically it's the exact opposite of that), then they obviously ain't what they claim they are. basically, to state the obvious, anyone who murders mass amount of people like Hitler did is clearly against God and is doing the work of satan. p.s. hell, just sticking to the Catholic religion, which is what I am, some people claim they are Catholic on the surface but don't even go to weekly Mass on a regular basis or reject official teachings of the church they don't like when it comes to morals or rarely pray etc. basically they might have a basic belief in Jesus Christ but that's about as far as it goes, sadly. I am not claiming to be perfect, as we are all sinners, but at least I try to keep inline with what the Catholic church teaches etc on morals which it's not wrong on as those who oppose it's official teachings on morals are the ones who oppose the truth.
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Post by dividavi on Jun 9, 2018 9:26:20 GMT
lets assume what's said there is accurate for the sake of argument... it's obvious he's not a true Catholic as actions speak louder than words. people can claim they are something, say Catholic etc, but if their actions are contrary to that, which Hitler's actions are clearly not Catholic (basically it's the exact opposite of that), then they obviously ain't what they claim they are. You don't have to assume anything. I gave the source for Hitler's remarks of July 1933 and you can verify what I claimed. To state the obvious, the RC Church has openly espoused mass murder. Examples include: 1. St, Bartholomew's Day Massacre-C16 France, 30K dead 2. Albigensian Crusade - C13 France 3. Northern Crusade - C13&14 Baltic States 4. Croatian Ustashe slaughter of Jews and Orthodox Christians-1941 to 1945 Imperialist slaughters sanctioned by RCC Spanish conquest of the Americas Belgian genocide in Congo Incomplete but that's enough. You perhaps slept through all the sermons and religious teaching but one major precept of Christianity is that what matters is what's in your heart, not in outward manifestations of piety. Thomas Aquinas was a Doctor of the Church, a noted philosopher, and a teacher of morality. He advocated mass murder of heretics and he's honored by your church up to the present day. In the Summa theologiae, he wrote: There's zero morality in any religion. It's just fairy tales and hellfire.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 9, 2018 9:43:56 GMT
The wackos who bash Christianity have zero sense of Reality. That's just a documented fact with every word they say. Some will claim Hitler was Christian, and some now even claim Vlad the Impaler was Christian. Why? Because Hitler and Vlad claimed to be? (Actually, Hitler made more claims for Paganism than anything, but he was a total "say whatever gets you a cookie" person) Here's one source that shows the contrary: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_HitlerAnother source is the Times (London) for July 1933. I don't believe it's accessible on the internet but Hitler's remarks to a Times reporter were printed on the July 2 or July 4 edition and can be found by examining microfilms for that period. Local university libraries should have copies. Anyway, the rumor going around Germany in summer 1933 was that the relatively new Chancellor (since January 30, 1933) would soon declare himself a Protestant. That's what Reich Bishop Ludwig Mueller was saying. Hitler thought otherwise, and said so. "I am a Catholic. I have no place in the Evangelical Church," is what he said to the Times (London) reporter. Look it up. Still waiting for you to zap me with some locusts or some boils, chosen person.
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Post by Catman on Jun 9, 2018 13:33:58 GMT
Meh. Reality ain't all it's cracked up to be.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jun 9, 2018 13:39:16 GMT
That anyone would think that "Christian bashers" tend to side with Republicans is amusing, I suppose.
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