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Post by Terrapin Station on Jun 8, 2018 15:47:35 GMT
...the cinematic innovation and camera angles made CK a groundbreaking and iconic film. The best ever? Not a chance. There is no such thing as the "best ever" film. It is all individually subjective. The first person to take a dump on a canvas was doing something groundbreaking, too. Doesn't mean that the resultant artwork was any good.
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Post by teleadm on Jun 8, 2018 16:19:08 GMT
It's a great movie, but it's not one of my favorites, plus I don't like to be told what to like and what not like by any lists usually made up by journalists that don't even have to pay to see any movies. I want to make up my own mind movie by movie.
I'm sorry if that came out as if I'm some angry, bitter, sour person.
I know many here like making lists here, and I have all respect in the world for those who likes lists here among the members. I just don't like them myself, and seldom participates in making lists, but I do enjoy reading them because a movie I haven't thought about for a long long time might appear.
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Post by snsurone on Jun 8, 2018 18:23:54 GMT
Tele, you have the right to be bitter, angry, and sour. In fact, many Americans feel the same way nowadays.
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Jun 9, 2018 22:13:46 GMT
It was innovative at the time, and I really like it, but it's not well loved by the masses, mainly critics.
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Post by snsurone on Jun 9, 2018 22:48:51 GMT
It was innovative at the time, and I really like it, but it's not well loved by the masses, mainly critics. Why don't the critics like it?
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Post by spiderwort on Jun 9, 2018 22:57:16 GMT
It was innovative at the time, and I really like it, but it's not well loved by the masses, mainly critics. Maybe not the masses, but it's certainly still loved by the critics - and even some of the masses. Just a few examples:
For the record, I think KANE is a masterpiece, though it doesn't appeal to me emotionally. Also, personally, I think it's all but impossible to name one best of anything. But KANE would certainly be near the top of any list of the greatest films. It's brilliance is simply too significant.
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Post by mikef6 on Jun 10, 2018 18:18:52 GMT
It's a great movie, but it's not one of my favorites, plus I don't like to be told what to like and what not like by any lists usually made up by journalists that don't even have to pay to see any movies. I want to make up my own mind movie by movie. I'm sorry if that came out as if I'm some angry, bitter, sour person. I know many here like making lists here, and I have all respect in the world for those who likes lists here among the members. I just don't like them myself, and seldom participates in making lists, but I do enjoy reading them because a movie I haven't thought about for a long long time might appear. I am a hopeless list-maker myself. Do you want my take on the best westerns? Sci-fi? Comedy? The Best of any year? I can supply you. What I DON'T do, however, is rank the titles. I just can't do it. My list will probably be in chronological order with the oldest first or alphabetical order. I have no idea what has gone into it - it makes my head swim - when I see a list offered of the 1,000 best movies ever - ranked! How do they do it? How do they determine the difference in quality between number 636 and 637? A Top 100 or even Top 50 offers the same conundrum. Also, my lists are only my personal perceptions. I have never tried to tell people what to like or even hint that my own ideas are the only answers. Usually, when that happens on the message boards, it is some people telling others what NOT to like, i.e. telling them that the films they love have been "overrated."
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Jun 10, 2018 18:55:37 GMT
It was innovative at the time, and I really like it, but it's not well loved by the masses, mainly critics. Why don't the critics like it? No, it is mainly critics who love it, it seems. Movie fans no longer love it as much as they used to or never did.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jun 10, 2018 19:04:43 GMT
Lebowskidoo 🦞MANY "movie fans" won't even give it a look because they know "that it is overrated" and besides, it is in the dreaded <whispered> Black and white.
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Post by snsurone on May 13, 2020 3:18:05 GMT
Just wait until CITIZEN TRUMP is released!!
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Post by kijii on May 13, 2020 3:40:53 GMT
Consider this: Victor Fleming directed two films in one year, either of which may be considered the GOAT of movies. Gone with the Wind and The Wizard of Oz!!
Citizen Kane is great, but then what is the greatest American movie of all time?
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Post by snsurone on May 13, 2020 11:22:54 GMT
Consider this: Victor Fleming directed two films in one year, either of which may be considered the GOAT of movies. Gone with the Wind and The Wizard of Oz!!
Citizen Kane is great, but then what is the greatest American movie of all time? PLAN 9 FROM OUTER SPACE!
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Post by louise on May 17, 2020 10:23:31 GMT
It may be for all I know, but it's not a film I care for personally, I found it dull. But the same goes for a lot of famous films. My taste runs more to comedies.
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Post by cschultz2 on May 17, 2020 18:17:00 GMT
I personally don't believe there's any such animal a Greatest Movie Ever Made. The motion picture experience is too varied, diverse, and all-encompassing in its fullness to identify a single greatest anything. If we place "Citizen Kane" next to, for example, "North by Northwest," "Blazing Saddles" and "Wind River" and contend "Citizen Kane" is the greatest of the four, it's a valid opinion. But which of the four would you rather watch? Probably not "Citizen Kane," I'm guessing.
Certainly the picture is unique, technically innovative, and artistically stimulating...but so are a lot of other pictures. For me, personally, "Citizen Kane" has never been a movie I've sought out on a slow Saturday night. But if I happen to see it playing on a television I happen to be passing, I almost invariably stop and watch it, at least for a while.
Toward the end of his life, the great comedy filmmaker Hal Roach was being interviewed by Tom Snyder on television's Tomorrow program. And at one point, Snyder noted that Roach, although one of the most innovative and well-known comedy experts in motion picture history, was also the producer of the very first movie version of John Steinbeck's "Of Mice and Men," one of the great tragedies of 20th century literature. And Snyder asked Roach his opinion of his great 1939 version of the story.
"Well," Roach replied, "It could'a used more laughs."
In other words, it's all a matter of perspective.
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Post by hitchcockthelegend on May 18, 2020 21:53:30 GMT
It's a serious piece of work, but honestly I prefer The Magnificent Ambersons
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on May 18, 2020 22:04:24 GMT
There's no such thing as the Greatest Movie of All Time. No more than there's the "greatest ballplayer of all time", "the prettiest girl of all time" etc. It's a milestone certainly. I love it but I can name at least 20-30 movies I love more.
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Post by llanwydd on May 18, 2020 22:22:01 GMT
It's a serious piece of work, but honestly I prefer The Magnificent Ambersons I love that one too. Welles fans would give their right arm to see the director's cut.
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Post by llanwydd on May 18, 2020 22:24:51 GMT
I doubt I'd put it in the top 30 films of 1941 even. My favorite of that year is How Green Was My Valley, but to leave CK out of the top 30 is one hell of an omission.
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Post by hitchcockthelegend on May 19, 2020 18:28:10 GMT
It's a serious piece of work, but honestly I prefer The Magnificent Ambersons I love that one too. Welles fans would give their right arm to see the director's cut. Yep! It's the Holy Grail of Wellsian Lore, we live in hope...
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Post by morrisondylanfan on May 19, 2020 20:36:00 GMT
I love that one too. Welles fans would give their right arm to see the director's cut. Yep! It's the Holy Grail of Wellsian Lore, I thought the Holy Grail of Wellsian Lore,was this:
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