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Post by Cody™ on Jun 8, 2018 21:26:27 GMT
Just not completely in the way you none believers think.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 21:45:28 GMT
Meh. Many of everyone are hypocrites.
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Post by goz on Jun 8, 2018 22:24:17 GMT
I didn't watch the video, butt I am sure they are not like you, a true Christian. Are you a Scotsman by any chance?  |
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jun 8, 2018 22:49:12 GMT
Translation: "These people do not agree with my one dimensional, narrow minded view of Christianity". BTW, "profanity" is completely subjective and cultural (the word "fag" for instance can have a completely different meaning in American and British vernacular), so it's rather pointless to try to bring that up.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2018 0:08:28 GMT
Every single human on this planet is a hypocrite in one way or another.
Of course some are worse than others you know politicians and religious people. Especially religions politicians.
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Post by mslo79 on Jun 9, 2018 7:10:20 GMT
I think pretty much everyone is a hypocrite at least at some time or another in their lives. this also applies to myself (even though we try to avoid that stuff as much as possible).
hell, to be honest... it would be easy for a atheist to say us Christians are hypocrites because we may often do things (or say things) we should not be based our Christian religion. but... being we are all sinners, it's going to be very difficult to live the Ten Commandments etc to the letter without any slip up whatsoever. but the important thing is... we try and keep a regular life of prayer etc which gives us grace from God to help resist sin and to live a more holy life. I can honestly say I have made some progress here even though, obviously, I still have a ways to go.
NOTE: I did not watch the OP's video as I was just making some generalized comments above.
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Post by Cody™ on Jun 9, 2018 8:13:54 GMT
I think pretty much everyone is a hypocrite at least at some time or another in their lives. this also applies to myself (even though we try to avoid that stuff as much as possible). hell, to be honest... it would be easy for a atheist to say us Christians are hypocrites because we may often do things (or say things) we should not be based our Christian religion. but... being we are all sinners, it's going to be very difficult to live the Ten Commandments etc to the letter without any slip up whatsoever. but the important thing is... we try and keep a regular life of prayer etc which gives us grace from God to help resist sin and to live a more holy life. I can honestly say I have made some progress here even though, obviously, I still have a ways to go. NOTE: I did not watch the OP's video as I was just making some generalized comments above. Wouldn’t it be more fair to watch the video before commenting? |
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Post by kls on Jun 9, 2018 11:45:45 GMT
I do think he had an excellent point about one issue. Of course if you have the highest standards you will sometimes fail to reach them in your actions. It doesn't mean it's best to abandon them and have no standards so you will never fail just so the label hypocrite isn't attached to you.
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Post by Cody™ on Jun 9, 2018 12:04:20 GMT
I didn't watch the video, butt I am sure they are not like you, a true Christian. Are you a Scotsman by any chance? You didn’t watch the video but you know the person in video is Scottish? In other words you’re full of shit as per usual. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2018 17:04:18 GMT
I can view Christian hypocrisy the same way as the video when it comes to having high standards that aren't always easy to follow, but it's not really about having high standards that's the issue for atheists. It's when they are reprimanding and judging atheists for doing the exact same things they've done and do that's really the issue.
If I were to ever have any issue with Christians it wouldn't be because of them being hypocritical since I know everyone is. It would be their closed-minded approach on certain things and judgmental attitude towards other people who believe things differently from them that I have an issue with.
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Post by Cody™ on Jun 9, 2018 18:22:42 GMT
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Post by captainbryce on Jun 9, 2018 18:39:36 GMT
I didn't watch the video, butt I am sure they are not like you, a true Christian. Are you a Scotsman by any chance? You didn’t watch the video but you know the person in video is Scottish? In other words you’re full of shit as per usual. OMG!!! ^Dude seriously never heard of the NTS fallacy before! Pickled Tink!  |
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Post by Cody™ on Jun 9, 2018 19:15:13 GMT
You didn’t watch the video but you know the person in video is Scottish? In other words you’re full of shit as per usual. OMG!!! ^Dude seriously never heard of the NTS fallacy before! Pickled Tink! Oh I see... |
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Post by Isapop on Jun 9, 2018 19:27:30 GMT
Just not completely in the way you none believers think. Regarding the examples the narrator gives of "Christian hypocrisy" (acceptance of homosexuality, acceptance of more than one "path"): Since the Christians accused don't conceal their views, but rather proclaim them, they cannot be guilty of hypocrisy, but would be guilty (from the narrator's point of view) of apostasy. You'd think that someone appointing himself a Christian commentator would have learned the difference.
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Post by Cody™ on Jun 9, 2018 20:04:38 GMT
Just not completely in the way you none believers think. Regarding the examples the narrator gives of "Christian hypocrisy" (acceptance of homosexuality, acceptance of more than one "path"): Since the Christians accused don't conceal their views, but rather proclaim them, they cannot be guilty of hypocrisy, but would be guilty (from the narrator's point of view) of apostasy. You'd think that someone appointing himself a Christian commentator would have learned the difference.
No. You didn’t you pay attention. He even provided the standard definition of hypocrisy... ”Someone who says they have particular moral beliefs but behaves in a way that shows these are not sincere”. Apostasy on the other hand means abandoning or renouncing one’s religion. And as he goes on to explain that many Christians proclaim to be commited followers of Christ yet are backing a completely contrary position to his and the bibles teachings. Those people are the hypocrites, not apostates. |
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Post by Isapop on Jun 9, 2018 20:19:39 GMT
Regarding the examples the narrator gives of "Christian hypocrisy" (acceptance of homosexuality, acceptance of more than one "path"): Since the Christians accused don't conceal their views, but rather proclaim them, they cannot be guilty of hypocrisy, but would be guilty (from the narrator's point of view) of apostasy. You'd think that someone appointing himself a Christian commentator would have learned the difference.
No. You didn’t you pay attention. He even provided the standard definition of hypocrisy... ”Someone who says they have particular moral beliefs but behaves in a way that shows these are not sincere”. Apostasy on the other hand means abandoning or renouncing one’s religion. And as he goes on to explain that many Christians proclaim to be commited followers of Christ yet are backing a completely contrary position to his and the bibles teachings. Those people are the hypocrites, not apostates. And that is EXACTLY how he has misapplied the dictionary definition. The Christians he is accusing are SAYING that their moral beliefs now accept homosexuality, and they act according to what they SAY, so that is not being hypocritical. And the fact that they publicly reject the "traditional" Christian view of homosexuality means that they have abandoned that teaching and qualify (from the narrator's view) as apostates. Your narrator is ignorant.
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Post by Cody™ on Jun 9, 2018 20:33:03 GMT
No. You didn’t you pay attention. He even provided the standard definition of hypocrisy... ”Someone who says they have particular moral beliefs but behaves in a way that shows these are not sincere”. Apostasy on the other hand means abandoning or renouncing one’s religion. And as he goes on to explain that many Christians proclaim to be commited followers of Christ yet are backing a completely contrary position to his and the bibles teachings. Those people are the hypocrites, not apostates. And that is EXACTLY how he has misapplied the dictionary definition. The Christians he is accusing are SAYING that their moral beliefs now accept homosexuality, and they act according to what they SAY, so that is not being hypocritical. And the fact that they publicly reject the "traditional" Christian view of homosexuality means that they have abandoned that teaching and qualify (from the narrator's view) as apostates. Your narrator is ignorant.
You’re the ignorant one. How the hell can they be apostates if they still very much profess to be Christians? These people consider themselves sincere commited believers yet at the same time accept homosexuality, despite the bible, old & New Testament repeatedly condemning that lifestyle. In other words they’re either insincere to begin with or they’re guilty of picking and choosing what they want to believe. This makes them hypocrites. CaptainBryce is what you would call an apostate. Gadreel falls in the hypocrite category. |
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Post by captainbryce on Jun 10, 2018 0:02:14 GMT
And that is EXACTLY how he has misapplied the dictionary definition. The Christians he is accusing are SAYING that their moral beliefs now accept homosexuality, and they act according to what they SAY, so that is not being hypocritical. And the fact that they publicly reject the "traditional" Christian view of homosexuality means that they have abandoned that teaching and qualify (from the narrator's view) as apostates. Your narrator is ignorant.
You’re the ignorant one. How the hell can they be apostates if they still very much profess to be Christians? These people consider themselves sincere commited believers yet at the same time accept homosexuality, despite the bible, old & New Testament repeatedly condemning that lifestyle. In other words they’re either insincere to begin with or they’re guilty of picking and choosing what they want to believe. This makes them hypocrites. CaptainBryce is what you would call an apostate. Gadreel falls in the hypocrite category. No, Gadreel is not a hypocrite because Gadreel practices what he preaches and believes in what he practices. The fact that it is different from “traditional” Christianity, and from what you believe makes him a “heretic”, not a hypocrite. I am an apostate... Gadreel is a heretic... You are a hypocrite... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2018 1:40:01 GMT
Closed-minded examples would include being challenged on their beliefs and yet aren't able to think outside of their set beliefs. That is fine but sometimes instead of admitting that they can't logically explain their own beliefs they would instead try to act like they are right and the people trying to challenge their beliefs are wrong. Their mindset about knowing the "truth" prevents them from having an unbiased discussion and this naturally displays their judgmental attitude towards differing beliefs and unwillingness to grow in their own beliefs. If you believe in a historical birth of Jesus but can't explain how that could scientifically or historically happen then there there isn't much credibility to that belief and therefore shouldn't be claimed as fact or unquestionable. Even if it was possible the possibility of other virgin births in history shouldn't be out of the question either, and that could be implying maybe Jesus isn't all that unique from other historical or mythological figures. So why would Christianity be the only true religion when it teaches either similar lessons and morals already taught in the past or provides certain details in stories that have no historical credibility or evidence of it actually happening but are still taught as fact? This type of discussion would be-closed off to certain Christians. You can still believe something strongly and understand that your belief could possibly be wrong, but certain Christians aren't able to do this. |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 11, 2018 12:04:37 GMT
Just not completely in the way you none believers think. Oh, you'd be surprised how many ways us 'none believers' can readily discover the devoutly-challenged as hypocrites. |
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