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Post by Aj_June on Jun 27, 2018 7:00:57 GMT
The show is sure to leave sad feelings in most of us. The ending is guaranteed to be not so sweet as LOTR ending. GRRM has repeatedly indicated that his books will have a bitter-sweet ending. Almost all of us have to be ready for some real sad ending and we need to bite whatever we are served. So what is the one thing you will wish to happen or not happen in the last season (it hasn't got to be the best possible thing but the least that can happen in a sad ending)? The one thing that you want it from your heart to happen or not happen. I am sure Jonsa wants something good to happen to Sansa and Leo wants something good to happen to Cersei.
I am prepared for Arya's death. I am 99.99% sure they will kill her. It will be sad but it will be memorable. But I don't want her to just die without doing something major. It will ruin it for me. She is a real hero whose acts are not sung because not many even know what things she has accomplished. Before the end I would like to either see her kill cersei or take down Lannister plans to back-stab the allied forces.
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Post by Seto on Jun 27, 2018 15:57:57 GMT
The show has gone so far off the rails, its hard to hope for something satisfying to happen.
I guess I agree with you, Cersei's death will be a very welcome, if long overdue sight to behold.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Jun 28, 2018 15:08:06 GMT
Maybe the bittersweet ending will be cersei lives since so many loathe her ,
But maybe she will learn a life lesson through all of this , I do want Sansa and Jon to end up as Queen and King
But s lot of you tell me it's not possible so their relationship may have a union but a tragic ending I keep coming back
To cerseis words to Sansa that love is poison and it will kill you
Arya I change my mind all the time , her brother did give her a needle sword
Which may play a part in her ending or the faces she has someone may mistake her for someone else
And kill her , most like Jon snow .
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Post by Aj_June on Jun 28, 2018 17:02:33 GMT
Maybe the bittersweet ending will be cersei lives since so many loathe her , Well, that will be a nightmare for me. Because the last things stay more in our memories and hunt us forever. But I do agree with you that that is possible. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jun 28, 2018 17:32:11 GMT
Maybe the bittersweet ending will be cersei lives since so many loathe her , Well, that will be a nightmare for me. Because the last things stay more in our memories and hunt us forever. But I do agree with you that that is possible. Cersei wasn't given the name of an immortal for nothing  |
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Post by Nightman on Jun 28, 2018 18:59:40 GMT
I have low hopes for the show. I hope Dany, after all she has been built up to be, gets to play a bigger role than just popping out Jon Special Snowflake's kid and dying.
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Post by Aj_June on Jun 29, 2018 3:05:46 GMT
I have low hopes for the show. I hope Dany, after all she has been built up to be, gets to play a bigger role than just popping out Jon Special Snowflake's kid and dying. Would you be happy with her part as Nissa Nissa but assuming that she takes a more active role in finishing off or controlling the advancing threat? |
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Post by Aj_June on Jun 29, 2018 3:28:19 GMT
Well, that will be a nightmare for me. Because the last things stay more in our memories and hunt us forever. But I do agree with you that that is possible. Cersei wasn't given the name of an immortal for nothing I hope it ain't going to happen. I said it will be a nightmare. No, it will be an eternal nightmare in fact. A living punishment that will be be a curse for entire life. I would get mad at all the bragging you will do for eternity. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jun 29, 2018 4:58:05 GMT
Cersei wasn't given the name of an immortal for nothing I hope it ain't going to happen. I said it will be a nightmare. No, it will be an eternal nightmare in fact. A living punishment that will be be a curse for entire life. I would get mad at all the bragging you will do for eternity. There is no justification for bragging as the authors do whatever they damn please. It's not as if it were the confirmation of some life wisdom. I am very prepared to see them express the opposite, actually, since this is always what "artists" do: shove some silly ideal in the face of reality. My attitude will not change, I'll keep supporting the Lannisters for what they are and stand for. Your nightmare will remain too, because reality doesn't go away. The lion has been sitting on the coat of arms of England for… more than 8 centuries now  I have no wishes left, by the way. I left the party in Season 6. |
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Post by Aj_June on Jun 29, 2018 5:27:57 GMT
I hope it ain't going to happen. I said it will be a nightmare. No, it will be an eternal nightmare in fact. A living punishment that will be be a curse for entire life. I would get mad at all the bragging you will do for eternity. There is no justification for bragging as the authors do whatever they damn please. It's not as if it were the confirmation of some life wisdom. I am very prepared to see them express the opposite, actually, since this is always what "artists" do: shove some silly ideal in the face of reality. My attitude will not change, I'll keep supporting the Lannisters for what they are and stand for. Your nightmare will remain too, because reality doesn't go away. The lion has been sitting on the coat of arms of England for… more than 8 centuries now I have no wishes left, by the way. I left the party in Season 6. That post actually made me happy. It will be much better to break cersei's pride than kill her. Make her a name only entity like current English Monarchy? That do be great. In fact I am going to write a new thread in a few hours about what things will break Cersei and her fans. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jun 29, 2018 6:01:29 GMT
There is no justification for bragging as the authors do whatever they damn please. It's not as if it were the confirmation of some life wisdom. I am very prepared to see them express the opposite, actually, since this is always what "artists" do: shove some silly ideal in the face of reality. My attitude will not change, I'll keep supporting the Lannisters for what they are and stand for. Your nightmare will remain too, because reality doesn't go away. The lion has been sitting on the coat of arms of England for… more than 8 centuries now I have no wishes left, by the way. I left the party in Season 6. That post actually made me happy. It will be much better to break cersei's pride than kill her. Make her a name only entity like current English Monarchy? That do be great. In fact I am going to write a new thread in a few hours about what things will break Cersei and her fans. "Breaking Cersei's pride" would only confirm the authors as part of the scum they are attempting to please, which I doubt they actually are. I could make the argument that it's already been tried and proven impossible. Breaking her status would be, but that's a different thing. It has been a constant opposition in the history of mankind between those who see humility as a quality and those who see it as a stain. The former never realise they cannot "break" the latter to make them share their view. All they can do is beat them down. Their writing pious stories of "redemption" in which a "sinner" sees the light and changes only discredits them further. You do not seem to be aware of the fact that the politically reserved attitude of the English royals is very much a choice on their part, by the way. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 14:35:38 GMT
For them to go back and film extra footage, additional episodes, re-edit, stretch out and release a season 7 extended edition. And then delay season 8 and makes additional episodes for that as well.
If they don't do that, then it's unlikely the show will have a completely satisfying ending. After the super rushed season 7 there's no way they can wrap everything up properly in only 6 episodes, especially if the writing is as bad as it was in 7. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 14:39:06 GMT
Why do you think they'll kill off Arya? It seems they now write the show how the "fans" want it, rather than how the story should go naturally. People want her to live, so the dumb writers will probably give them what they want unfortunately.
I don't understand how people can enjoy that character any more though. She hasn't been interesting since like early season 5. (apart from when she came back to get revenge on the Freys. That was cool. |
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Jun 29, 2018 23:07:21 GMT
Why do you think they'll kill off Arya? It seems they now write the show how the "fans" want it, rather than how the story should go naturally. People want her to live, so the dumb writers will probably give them what they want unfortunately.
I don't understand how people can enjoy that character any more though. She hasn't been interesting since like early season 5. (apart from when she came back to get revenge on the Freys. That was cool. Sometimes it has nothing to do with what characters fans enjoy , it's what the story calls for , don't think GOT started as a popularity test or a soap opera but it sure was turning out to be in some award shows , I hate it when shows are directed by what fans want even if that means I would hate the ending what's ridiculous some GOT fans base what GRMM said about his wife arya being her favorite character and that if he killed her off his wife wouldn't talk to him again or divorce him , maybe GRMM wants a divorce LOL but it's silly to me some fans believe because of trolling GRMM did are basing Aryas fate, I wouldn't be surprised at allif arya died in that room when she fought the waif. |
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Post by Aj_June on Jun 30, 2018 4:48:12 GMT
That post actually made me happy. It will be much better to break cersei's pride than kill her. Make her a name only entity like current English Monarchy? That do be great. In fact I am going to write a new thread in a few hours about what things will break Cersei and her fans. "Breaking Cersei's pride" would only confirm the authors as part of the scum they are attempting to please, which I doubt they actually are. I could make the argument that it's already been tried and proven impossible. Breaking her status would be, but that's a different thing. It has been a constant opposition in the history of mankind between those who see humility as a quality and those who see it as a stain. The former never realise they cannot "break" the latter to make them share their view. All they can do is beat them down. Their writing pious stories of "redemption" in which a "sinner" sees the light and changes only discredits them further. You do not seem to be aware of the fact that the politically reserved attitude of the English royals is very much a choice on their part, by the way. So what you are basically saying is that if things go your way then authors have done a good job but if things don't go your way then authors are idiots. So you have basically employed an extremely unfair debating tactics which could even be construed as trolling. I agree that breaking her status is not the same as breaking her pride in all cases but yes it could be in some cases. For example, if Dany becomes the queen and Cersei becomes a mere nobility (and not killed) then it would mean Cersei's spirit has been broken. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jun 30, 2018 4:53:12 GMT
Why do you think they'll kill off Arya? It seems they now write the show how the "fans" want it, rather than how the story should go naturally. People want her to live, so the dumb writers will probably give them what they want unfortunately.
I don't understand how people can enjoy that character any more though. She hasn't been interesting since like early season 5. (apart from when she came back to get revenge on the Freys. That was cool. Sometimes it has nothing to do with what characters fans enjoy , it's what the story calls for , don't think GOT started as a popularity test or a soap opera but it sure was turning out to be in some award shows , I hate it when shows are directed by what fans want even if that means I would hate the ending what's ridiculous some GOT fans base what GRMM said about his wife arya being her favorite character and that if he killed her off his wife wouldn't talk to him again or divorce him , maybe GRMM wants a divorce LOL but it's silly to me some fans believe because of trolling GRMM did are basing Aryas fate, I wouldn't be surprised at allif arya died in that room when she fought the waif. Arya replaced by the Waif would be a cheap twist and further no purpose in the story. No, it's her. S6 has given fans a lot of what they wanted just so they can stay around to be better shocked later. Pleasing fans serves the purpose of keeping them on board, a purpose which becomes irrelevant at the end. Killing off Arya remains a possibility. |
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Post by Aj_June on Jun 30, 2018 5:36:01 GMT
For them to go back and film extra footage, additional episodes, re-edit, stretch out and release a season 7 extended edition. And then delay season 8 and makes additional episodes for that as well.
If they don't do that, then it's unlikely the show will have a completely satisfying ending. After the super rushed season 7 there's no way they can wrap everything up properly in only 6 episodes, especially if the writing is as bad as it was in 7. I am afraid the whole main is not just about accommodating the wishes of fans. I rather doubt that. I think the more important issue lies with lack of available writing material from original source and greed about saving money. They believe that the time is getting over and perhaps they want to save money. I totally agree with you that season 7 looked rushed. While S8 episodes are wrong I sill believe that's enough. They should have gone for 10-10 episodes for S7 & S8. |
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Post by Aj_June on Jun 30, 2018 5:38:00 GMT
Why do you think they'll kill off Arya? It seems they now write the show how the "fans" want it, rather than how the story should go naturally. People want her to live, so the dumb writers will probably give them what they want unfortunately.
I don't understand how people can enjoy that character any more though. She hasn't been interesting since like early season 5. (apart from when she came back to get revenge on the Freys. That was cool. Sometimes it has nothing to do with what characters fans enjoy , it's what the story calls for , don't think GOT started as a popularity test or a soap opera but it sure was turning out to be in some award shows , I hate it when shows are directed by what fans want even if that means I would hate the ending what's ridiculous some GOT fans base what GRMM said about his wife arya being her favorite character and that if he killed her off his wife wouldn't talk to him again or divorce him , maybe GRMM wants a divorce LOL but it's silly to me some fans believe because of trolling GRMM did are basing Aryas fate, I wouldn't be surprised at allif arya died in that room when she fought the waif. I am not sure why Waif will get delight in seeking revenge when she is supposed to be not killing for anything that is not allowed by faceless men. Arya is the original heroine of this story. I do not think that they kill her for a side character. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jun 30, 2018 5:50:00 GMT
"Breaking Cersei's pride" would only confirm the authors as part of the scum they are attempting to please, which I doubt they actually are. I could make the argument that it's already been tried and proven impossible. Breaking her status would be, but that's a different thing. It has been a constant opposition in the history of mankind between those who see humility as a quality and those who see it as a stain. The former never realise they cannot "break" the latter to make them share their view. All they can do is beat them down. Their writing pious stories of "redemption" in which a "sinner" sees the light and changes only discredits them further. You do not seem to be aware of the fact that the politically reserved attitude of the English royals is very much a choice on their part, by the way. So what you are basically saying is that if things go your way then authors have done a good job but if things don't go your way then authors are idiots. So you have basically employed an extremely unfair debating tactics which could even be construed as trolling. I agree that breaking her status is not the same as breaking her pride in all cases but yes it could be in some cases. For example, if Dany becomes the queen and Cersei becomes a mere nobility (and not killed) then it would mean Cersei's spirit has been broken. I am not talking about "making a good job" but about making a political point. The authors are not idiots, their success proves it. Their final statements will decide where they really stand in the conflict. Those who want to see Cersei's pride broken I consider as scum and I will never stop putting it in their face. They'll call it whatever they like. |
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Post by Marv on Jul 3, 2018 12:34:49 GMT
Emotional Arya and Jon reunion.
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