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Post by goz on Jul 2, 2018 0:16:06 GMT
None are real, so it doesn't matter. And there it is. What puzzles me is why any logical human in the 21st century would buy into this magical thinking at all? Other than those indoctrinated from birth, and I, for one, managed to get past it. Why do humans constrain themselves to folklore that they are willing to die for? More people have died in the name of 'God' than for any other reason. Why? As a sometime student of social anthropology, I can only see it as a slightly elevated form of primitive tribalism. As man evolved, he had to defend territory, procreation and food resources. With civilisation and an understanding of higher mental functioning men had higher ideals of religion, the afterlife and basic 'morality'. These issues became increasingly important and meshed into all the other functionings of a society We also see it now as a means of social control, along with tribal or secular law, there was intrinsic religious laws and expectations of behaviour to fit into a group. Of course these were never universal hence we started having religious wars. ( and still are ) Once religion and its heirarchy became more important than mere survival and 'higher ideals developed', then religious tribal differences really came into their own. You fought and died for 'causes' which were endemic to and important within your religious tribe. My take on it though it is obviously more complex than that.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Jul 2, 2018 0:46:53 GMT
And there it is. What puzzles me is why any logical human in the 21st century would buy into this magical thinking at all? Other than those indoctrinated from birth, and I, for one, managed to get past it. Why do humans constrain themselves to folklore that they are willing to die for? More people have died in the name of 'God' than for any other reason. Why? As a sometime student of social anthropology, I can only see it as a slightly elevated form of primitive tribalism. As man evolved, he had to defend territory, procreation and food resources. With civilisation and an understanding of higher mental functioning men had higher ideals of religion, the afterlife and basic 'morality'. These issues became increasingly important and meshed into all the other functionings of a society We also see it now as a means of social control, along with tribal or secular law, there was intrinsic religious laws and expectations of behaviour to fit into a group. Of course these were never universal hence we started having religious wars. ( and still are )Once religion and its heirarchy became more important than mere survival and 'higher ideals developed', then religious tribal differences really came into their own. You fought and died for 'causes' which were endemic to and important within your religious tribe. My take on it though it is obviously more complex than that. Years ago, a friend gifted me with a document that showed every religion's symbol (cross, star of david, yin/yang, et al)and a verse from that religion's holy book, and all were versions of the Golden Rule - do unto others... How has that one concept gotten lost?
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Post by goz on Jul 2, 2018 0:49:00 GMT
As a sometime student of social anthropology, I can only see it as a slightly elevated form of primitive tribalism. As man evolved, he had to defend territory, procreation and food resources. With civilisation and an understanding of higher mental functioning men had higher ideals of religion, the afterlife and basic 'morality'. These issues became increasingly important and meshed into all the other functionings of a society We also see it now as a means of social control, along with tribal or secular law, there was intrinsic religious laws and expectations of behaviour to fit into a group. Of course these were never universal hence we started having religious wars. ( and still are )Once religion and its heirarchy became more important than mere survival and 'higher ideals developed', then religious tribal differences really came into their own. You fought and died for 'causes' which were endemic to and important within your religious tribe. My take on it though it is obviously more complex than that. Years ago, a friend gifted me with a document that showed every religion's symbol (cross, star of david, yin/yang, et al)and a verse from that religion's holy book, and all were versions of the Golden Rule - do unto others... How has that one concept gotten lost? 'tribalism'
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Jul 2, 2018 1:05:15 GMT
Years ago, a friend gifted me with a document that showed every religion's symbol (cross, star of david, yin/yang, et al)and a verse from that religion's holy book, and all were versions of the Golden Rule - do unto others... How has that one concept gotten lost? 'tribalism' Yeah, pretty much...
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