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Post by darkpast on Jul 9, 2018 0:32:43 GMT
Ant-Man and The Wasp is the just posted the lowest opening for a MCU sequel. Maybe Ant-man just isn't popular and 3 movies within 6 months is just too much.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jul 9, 2018 0:34:47 GMT
IW just made $2 billion and counting, so no.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jul 9, 2018 0:36:28 GMT
Ant-Man and The Wasp is the just posted the lowest opening for a MCU sequel. Maybe Ant-man just isn't popular and 3 movies within 6 months is just too much. too early to tell |
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jul 9, 2018 0:44:07 GMT
IW just made $2 billion and counting, so no. Yeah. Really stupid thread. But hey it’s a darkpast thread so what do you expect. |
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Post by darkpast on Jul 9, 2018 0:48:10 GMT
IW just made $2 billion and counting, so no. Thanos just snapped away half the fans |
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Post by hardball on Jul 9, 2018 0:52:36 GMT
The film's OW is 33% higher than the first and global OW is equal to its budget. This isn't Solo.
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Post by darkpast on Jul 9, 2018 1:06:58 GMT
The film's OW is 33% higher than the first and global OW is equal to its budget. This isn't Solo. is that the right comparison? Rogue One was the next installment coming off a 2 Billion dollar grosser . Not saying it won't be profitable, they kept the budget under control. |
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Post by politicidal on Jul 9, 2018 1:14:03 GMT
QUICK! REBOOT IT ALL BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!!!!!!!!
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Post by merh on Jul 9, 2018 1:16:31 GMT
Ant-Man and The Wasp is the just posted the lowest opening for a MCU sequel. Maybe Ant-man just isn't popular and 3 movies within 6 months is just too much. Avengers: Infinity War $674,794,474 Marvel's The Avengers $623,357,910 Avengers: Age of Ultron $459,005,868 Iron Man 3 $409,013,994 Iron Man $318,412,101 Iron Man 2 $312,433,331 Captain America: Civil War $408,084,349 Captain America: The Winter Soldier $259,766,572 Captain America: The First Avenger $176,654,505 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 $389,813,101 Guardians of the Galaxy $333,176,600 Thor: Ragnarok $315,058,289 Thor: The Dark World $206,362,140 Thor $181,030,624 Your figures are off. IM2 came in below IM Ultron made less than Avengers. Though are the Avengers movies sequels of themselves, or the culmination of each phase? |
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Post by darkpast on Jul 9, 2018 1:27:03 GMT
Ant-Man and The Wasp is the just posted the lowest opening for a MCU sequel. Maybe Ant-man just isn't popular and 3 movies within 6 months is just too much. Avengers: Infinity War $674,794,474 Marvel's The Avengers $623,357,910 Avengers: Age of Ultron $459,005,868 Iron Man 3 $409,013,994 Iron Man $318,412,101 Iron Man 2 $312,433,331 Captain America: Civil War $408,084,349 Captain America: The Winter Soldier $259,766,572 Captain America: The First Avenger $176,654,505 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 $389,813,101 Guardians of the Galaxy $333,176,600 Thor: Ragnarok $315,058,289 Thor: The Dark World $206,362,140 Thor $181,030,624 Your figures are off. IM2 came in below IM Ultron made less than Avengers. Though are the Avengers movies sequels of themselves, or the culmination of each phase? i said "opening" , as we are unable to compare final gross, and yes IM2 opened bigger. Ultron was the only sequel to open to less. |
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Post by merh on Jul 9, 2018 2:00:53 GMT
Avengers: Infinity War $674,794,474 Marvel's The Avengers $623,357,910 Avengers: Age of Ultron $459,005,868 Iron Man 3 $409,013,994 Iron Man $318,412,101 Iron Man 2 $312,433,331 Captain America: Civil War $408,084,349 Captain America: The Winter Soldier $259,766,572 Captain America: The First Avenger $176,654,505 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 $389,813,101 Guardians of the Galaxy $333,176,600 Thor: Ragnarok $315,058,289 Thor: The Dark World $206,362,140 Thor $181,030,624 Your figures are off. IM2 came in below IM Ultron made less than Avengers. Though are the Avengers movies sequels of themselves, or the culmination of each phase? i said "opening" , as we are unable to compare final gross, and yes IM2 opened bigger. Ultron was the only sequel to open to less. 1 Ant-Man $57,225,526 2 Ant-Man and the Wasp $ 76,030,000 I didnt realize $76 mill is less than $57 mill. It has beat its original film And really, all Marvel seems to care is it advances the brand. Do not forget the movie isnt all there is. There are toys. I was eyeballing a set of dolls-$50 for Thor & Lady Sif. Maybe 6 inch? |
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Post by darkpast on Jul 9, 2018 2:08:47 GMT
i said "opening" , as we are unable to compare final gross, and yes IM2 opened bigger. Ultron was the only sequel to open to less. 1 Ant-Man $57,225,526 2 Ant-Man and the Wasp $ 76,030,000 I didnt realize $76 mill is less than $57 mill. It has beat its original film And really, all Marvel seems to care is it advances the brand. Do not forget the movie isnt all there is. There are toys. I was eyeballing a set of dolls-$50 for Thor & Lady Sif. Maybe 6 inch? I said lowest opening for a sequel in mcu, not comparing against the first
here is the link
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 9, 2018 2:18:50 GMT
There might not be a large audience for Ant-Man, honestly.
I haven't seen the film yet so I'm not sure if it's any good but if it's similar in quality of the first film Marvel may have to change directors.
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Post by hardball on Jul 9, 2018 2:52:30 GMT
The film's OW is 33% higher than the first and global OW is equal to its budget. This isn't Solo. is that the right comparison? Rogue One was the next installment coming off a 2 Billion dollar grosser . Not saying it won't be profitable, they kept the budget under control. You can't compare Rogue One with Ant Man because that had a $200M+ budget and had a higher BO target. Solo is really a more apt comparison because that film was supposed to have a lower budget until the reshooots caused it to double. |
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Post by Vassaggo on Jul 9, 2018 3:03:50 GMT
1 Ant-Man $57,225,526 2 Ant-Man and the Wasp $ 76,030,000 I didnt realize $76 mill is less than $57 mill. It has beat its original film And really, all Marvel seems to care is it advances the brand. Do not forget the movie isnt all there is. There are toys. I was eyeballing a set of dolls-$50 for Thor & Lady Sif. Maybe 6 inch? I said lowest opening for a sequel in mcu, not comparing against the first
here is the link
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Post by darkpast on Jul 9, 2018 3:06:34 GMT
is that the right comparison? Rogue One was the next installment coming off a 2 Billion dollar grosser . Not saying it won't be profitable, they kept the budget under control. You can't compare Rogue One with Ant Man because that had a $200M+ budget and had a higher BO target. Solo is really a more apt comparison because that film was supposed to have a lower budget until the reshooots caused it to double. others than being movies that should target a 700m box office total, the comparison ends there. Solo is about one the most iconic fictional characters in cinematic history. |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jul 9, 2018 3:13:47 GMT
Ant-Man and The Wasp is the just posted the lowest opening for a MCU sequel. Maybe Ant-man just isn't popular and 3 movies within 6 months is just too much. I have not gone to see an MCU film in over two years. |
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Post by hardball on Jul 9, 2018 3:37:54 GMT
You can't compare Rogue One with Ant Man because that had a $200M+ budget and had a higher BO target. Solo is really a more apt comparison because that film was supposed to have a lower budget until the reshooots caused it to double. others than being movies that should target a 700m box office total, the comparison ends there. Solo is about one the most iconic fictional characters in cinematic history. Solo is a popular character but a lot of people didn't like the idea of a spinoff. And the factors you mentioned going against AMATW, releasing movies too quickly one after the other, franchise fatigue, not a popular character (i.e. nobody wanted a young Solo film) are the same ones used to explain why Solo flopped. |
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Post by merh on Jul 9, 2018 5:52:26 GMT
1 Ant-Man $57,225,526 2 Ant-Man and the Wasp $ 76,030,000 I didnt realize $76 mill is less than $57 mill. It has beat its original film And really, all Marvel seems to care is it advances the brand. Do not forget the movie isnt all there is. There are toys. I was eyeballing a set of dolls-$50 for Thor & Lady Sif. Maybe 6 inch? I said lowest opening for a sequel in mcu, not comparing against the first
here is the link
But you are comparing apples & tomatoes. Its like saying a place known for chocolate shakes makes a special chocate shake which sells $$$, but the next year they make a special strawberry shake which doesnt do as well. Or you note Captain America & Thor made less than Iron Man & making a fuss. Cap & Thor were unknown characters to most of the public, just as Ant-Man is. Ant-Man isn't Iron-Man. Ant-Man isn't Spider-Man Ant-Man is more similar to Thor & Cap in the public at large knowing him. Frankly, I was impressed with the amount of ass Wasp kicked in this movie. Cap 2 opened with $30 million more than Cap 1. Thor 2 opened with $20 million more than Thor 1. Did Ant-Man make less? Yes. BOM isnt postulating Marvel fatigue. You are making the leap. |
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Post by darkpast on Jul 9, 2018 6:50:58 GMT
I said lowest opening for a sequel in mcu, not comparing against the first
here is the link
But you are comparing apples & tomatoes. Its like saying a place known for chocolate shakes makes a special chocate shake which sells $$$, but the next year they make a special strawberry shake which doesnt do as well. Or you note Captain America & Thor made less than Iron Man & making a fuss. Cap & Thor were unknown characters to most of the public, just as Ant-Man is. Ant-Man isn't Iron-Man. Ant-Man isn't Spider-Man Ant-Man is more similar to Thor & Cap in the public at large knowing him. Frankly, I was impressed with the amount of ass Wasp kicked in this movie. Cap 2 opened with $30 million more than Cap 1. Thor 2 opened with $20 million more than Thor 1. Did Ant-Man make less? Yes. BOM isnt postulating Marvel fatigue. You are making the leap. When Cap 2 and Thor 2 came out Marvel wasn't the biggest Franchise in the world. Pressure is on any MCU film to open to 100m+. That's the reality when you are on top. It appears there could be cracks in the Marvel armor or they are putting out product no one asked for. I feel bad for the theater owners that Disney force them to keep movies for 3-4 weeks minimum. |
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