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Post by Eλευθερί on Jul 12, 2018 9:48:01 GMT
(1) Should people be ashamed of the unclothed human body?
(2) Is it immoral to be naked?
Genesis 2:25
Why does the scripture imply with a sledgehammer that they should have been ashamed to be naked?
There were only three intelligent beings to see that they were naked (as far as they knew) --> Adam, Eve, and God.
Should a married man be ashamed to be naked in front of his wife (or vice versa)?
And God sees everything regardless (right?), so what difference does it make whether you are clothed or naked, as far as God seeing you goes?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jul 12, 2018 10:41:18 GMT
(1) Should people be ashamed of the unclothed human body? (2) Is it immoral to be naked? Genesis 2:25 Why does the scripture imply with a sledgehammer that they should have been ashamed to be naked? There were only three intelligent beings to see that they were naked (as far as they knew) --> Adam, Eve, and God. Should a married man be ashamed to be naked in front of his wife (or vice versa)? And God sees everything regardless (right?), so what difference does it make whether you are clothed or naked, as far as God seeing you goes? 1. That verse does nothing of the sort. On the contrary, it is linking the notion of them being OK with nakedness as perfect people in paradise. Only after they sinned did they cover themselves up. 2. There were more than 3 that could see them naked although that is completely irrelevant 3. There are plenty of people that are OK with being naked. If people who like being naked in public have places they can go to. |
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Post by Eλευθερί on Jul 12, 2018 15:05:53 GMT
What if it is 2 naked men together? Should they be ashamed? Well, many say God is a man, of sorts. So it was Adam, who was naked, and God. So what do you think? |
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Post by koskiewicz on Jul 12, 2018 16:05:47 GMT
...do a stint in the military service and you will see that not only there will be no difference in your naked body with others, and you will be taking dumps in "heads" that do not have partitions.
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Post by Catman on Jul 12, 2018 16:26:09 GMT
What about cats?
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Post by Eλευθερί on Jul 12, 2018 16:29:22 GMT
you will see that not only there will be no difference in your naked body with others That's not been my experience ...  |
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Post by Eλευθερί on Jul 12, 2018 16:29:49 GMT
That's why I said "intelligent."  |
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Post by captainbryce on Jul 12, 2018 17:41:24 GMT
(1) Should people be ashamed of the unclothed human body? (2) Is it immoral to be naked? 1) No 2) Generally speaking no. However, there are definitely circumstances where nudity amounts to “indecency” (public exposure), which is illegal. Because the people who wrote the bible associated nudity with sex (because they were a society full of perverts and rapists). Therefore they invented the concept of “shame” associated with nudity so that it would become taboo in society, giving them a “moral” ground to condemn nudity as indecent and sexual. Remember, religion is a tool that was invented to control people and affect the behavior of society. Calling nudity shameful and homosexuality an abomination and witchcraft evil allows you to control the behavior of society in ways that conform to your personal sensibilities. You don’t have to give legitimate reasons for why these things are “bad”, you just have to say because God said so, and people won’t question why it’s supposedly immoral; they will just believe it. Which therefore renders the concept logically implausible, and strongly suggests that the perception that nudity was immoral was really intended for those living in the era in which the people who wrote the bible lived in. If you interpret the story of Adam and Eve literally, then YES (since they were the only two people in the garden. Your problem is that you are engaging in critical thinking and trying to figure out a way for an implausible, unreasonable, and illogical story to “make sense”. You’re not supposed to be asking these kinds of questions you heathen!  |
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Post by maya55555 on Jul 12, 2018 18:01:51 GMT
Eleutheri
OK then, what about cats?
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Post by maya55555 on Jul 12, 2018 18:23:54 GMT
猫ちゃn
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Post by yougotastewgoinbaby on Jul 13, 2018 4:02:15 GMT
I’m ashamed of your naked body.
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Post by Rodney Farber on Jul 13, 2018 13:26:40 GMT
One version of the story is that when Eve saw Adam's naked body, she partially shielded her eyes and said, "Oh, I see you have a wee-wee". Adam told her that the correct term was that he had a penis. Eve then responded with, "Oh, I've seen plenty of penises, and that one is a wee-wee".
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