northernlad
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Post by northernlad on Jul 13, 2018 3:11:57 GMT
I don't see anything there that is going to cause him any trouble. "It’s very difficult to do that if there are certain rules in place. Because then it’s like: ‘Well, I don’t want to go up and talk to her, because I’m going to be called a rapist or something" This quote got him in trouble with the #metoo crowd. The only place I've seen this is here. I've not come across it on a news site. So I don't think he's in any big trouble.
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Post by nemesis617 on Jul 13, 2018 4:49:49 GMT
I don't have a problem with his comments. He was honest and there is no fault in what he said. Of course he is going to be labeled a sexist by some feminists but I'm sure he has already prepared himself for that. The thing with Cavill that was brought up a lot and many people have questioned was his relationship with a 19 year girl.
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Post by RedDeadFallout on Jul 13, 2018 23:48:09 GMT
He wouldn't get fired over, Affleck is known for groping and knew all about Harvey Weinstein.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 14, 2018 1:16:33 GMT
I like how he only apologized for how he said it and how it came across, but not for what the message was.
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Post by Nalkarj on Jul 14, 2018 1:29:03 GMT
I like how he only apologized for how he said it and how it came across, but not for what the message was. Fine. A few cigars, not Cubans, and not in a case, then...
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 14, 2018 2:29:13 GMT
I like how he only apologized for how he said it and how it came across, but not for what the message was. What message is there to apologize for?
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Post by scabab on Jul 14, 2018 4:35:14 GMT
God I hate this social media age.
How many times has this happened now where someone has just given an opinion and some social media brigade has pounced on them, it's made news and then they're forced to apologize for it.
People have lost their jobs and everything, undeserved because of this. It annoys me more when they keep giving in by apologizing.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 14, 2018 9:31:56 GMT
God I hate this social media age. How many times has this happened now where someone has just given an opinion and some social media brigade has pounced on them, it's made news and then they're forced to apologize for it. People have lost their jobs and everything, undeserved because of this. It annoys me more when they keep giving in by apologizing. Oh this has been going on way before the social media age. You just see it more because of social media (like everything else).
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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 14, 2018 9:33:49 GMT
I like how he only apologized for how he said it and how it came across, but not for what the message was. What message is there to apologize for? None at all. I think a lot of people agree with him. It's getting to the point everyone will be using those virtual machines from Demolition Man.
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Post by leesilm on Jul 16, 2018 6:50:34 GMT
Honestly, when I read it all - not just the tweeted-about-quotes, I didn't see anything to get up in arms over. I mean, yes, maybe he could have said something like, "I don't want to go over to her and flirt, and wake up tomorrow to see a headline reading, SUPERMAN A HORNDOG" instead of the Rapist thing- but he has said in the past that he isn't always the most eloquent person, especially when stuff he thinks sounds funny in person, ends up looking rather awkward in print. Print loses the subtext and subtleties of the spoken interaction- if someone was being sarcastic or possibly rephrasing something a third party said, once it appears in print, it can look like they were being serious or the third person's initial comment is left out so you don't realize who/what was being quoted by whom. You lose the flow of things.
And really, I do feel for people in the METOO era, who've come to second-guess how they flirt and how they try to pick up chics for anything from a night of fun to a potential life partner. One of my absolute best friends, a man who you could call at 3am from the side of the road, and he'd drive an hour in the rain to come get you - he's a sweetheart. A teddy bear. Let him get into a bar or a club, and see an attractive woman, he becomes the most obnoxious, over the top, life of the party, lord of the dance, king of the buffoons. He is terrible, and many times has come across as creepy and has done things that have made his friends want to smack him. And imagine, if you will, adding all the issues of Celebrity atop that. I'm sure, in this day and age, no attractive actor (esp. not one in Comic Book movies)doesn't get a long, scary lecture from their agent/manager about making sure you don't do anything that can be taken any wrong way when you are in social situations- anything from a 13yr old fan seeing you in an elevator and wanting your autograph to flirting with a 23yr old in the club to photo sessions at SDCC, that you make sure no one can say you touched someone inappropriately, no one can say you took the flirtations further than were wanted, and no one can say you weren't the most polite and wonderful superhero even out of costume.
He's talked, in the past, about making sure he kept a certain fitness level cause if he goes swimming with his nephews at the beach and had a bit of a pounch/dad-bod going on, that it would be all over the headlines the next day, "SUPERMAN FAT!" Imagine realizing you had that kind of microscope on you when you went to try to chat up a girl in a bar, coffee joint, or at the beach? Then add on the fear that, in this MeToo era, things that used to be seen as harmless flirting- are now harassment. Don't get me wrong, I'm saying this while having also been someone who had to explain to a friend that my age/height/build/martial arts training/etc. did not make me immune when she couldn't understand how women were still getting pressured by bosses to wear lower cut blouses, shorter skirts, etc., to stay late with the boss for reasons aside from paperwork, joked that they only got their position because they were willing to spread their legs for it, whatever. She had recently been blatantly harassed and wasn't processing it very well, and a couple of us who are friends with her, explained (with some personal examples, some where we were the targets, others where we were witnesses or had heard about it from the friend it happened to) how it happens every day, to lots of women, regardless of creed, color, how they dress, how much make up they do/don't wear, what class they belong to, or if they are straight/gay/bi/etc. That you can be a short, blonde haired, intelligent, straight, Catholic, shapely girl in your early 20s, a 40-something with dark wavy hair, big brown eyes, a twig-like figure, Amazonian height, bisexual, and with a PhD behind your name, or a 30yr old stay at home mother with a kid on your hip as you are trying to get your mini van's keys out of your diaper bag... But even with that in mind, even understanding the good #MeToo has done, I can completely get how it can be scary for men who aren't the smoothest in the world or terribly eloquent. If Tom HIddleston, who basically double majored in English Lit and Poetry, can get in trouble from opening mouth and inserting foot - what hope does anyone have in this digital age?
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jul 16, 2018 6:59:00 GMT
I don't see anything there that is going to cause him any trouble. ...until Wonder Woman finds out he thinks their relationship "never really worked."
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jul 16, 2018 18:43:00 GMT
Henry should do this:
... until things cool off...
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 16, 2018 18:53:56 GMT
Henry should do this:
... until things cool off... Fly towards the sun?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jul 16, 2018 18:56:03 GMT
Henry should do this:
... until things cool off... Fly towards the sun? LOL! No silly! Go away for a little bit. You're a silly silly! ...silly...
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 16, 2018 21:38:51 GMT
There’s a lesson all of this. If someone asks you something related to the MeToo movement, don’t give an answer. You’ll only make things worse for yourself. Just don’t comment at all. Nah, that can easily backfire on you as well. Unless you're very good at switching topics, people could easily claim you're avoiding the topic... which means your next interviewer will probably zero-in on that topic immediately and so will the next one after that.
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Post by amyghost on Jul 16, 2018 21:55:19 GMT
Judas priest, if comments as innocuous as the ones quoted from Cavill are enough to make one worry about being tarred and feathered by the MeToo-er's, then everyone's gone frigging barmy. Which it pretty much appears everyone has.
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Post by RedDeadFallout on Jul 16, 2018 22:07:38 GMT
Yes, men are the real victims of #metoo, reasonable concensus.
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Post by amyghost on Jul 16, 2018 22:21:34 GMT
Yes, men are the real victims of #metoo, reasonable concensus. MeToo has gone from zero to sixty from addressing some reasonable concerns to flagrantly persecuting anyone, male or female, who doesn't toe the party line to the last comma, period and semicolon. They're seeking to criminalize normal human interactions, create sexual thoughtcrime, and set themselves up as the American equivalent of Oceania's Junior Anti-Sex League. Frankly, I was leery of a movement spearheaded by someone as seemingly unstable as Rose McGowan (who appears to be bent on turning it into some type of personality cult) in the first place, and what's been taking place subsequently hasn't done much to allay my concerns.
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Post by RedDeadFallout on Jul 16, 2018 23:53:24 GMT
Yes, men are the real victims of #metoo, reasonable concensus. MeToo has gone from zero to sixty from addressing some reasonable concerns to flagrantly persecuting anyone, male or female, who doesn't toe the party line to the last comma, period and semicolon. They're seeking to criminalize normal human interactions, create sexual thoughtcrime, and set themselves up as the American equivalent of Oceania's Junior Anti-Sex League. Frankly, I was leery of a movement spearheaded by someone as seemingly unstable as Rose McGowan (who appears to be bent on turning it into some type of personality cult) in the first place, and what's been taking place subsequently hasn't done much to allay my concerns. I guess your concerns aren't really the issue to people dealing with sexual assaults. Also most of what you said is nonsense.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 17, 2018 0:14:01 GMT
MeToo has gone from zero to sixty from addressing some reasonable concerns to flagrantly persecuting anyone, male or female, who doesn't toe the party line to the last comma, period and semicolon. They're seeking to criminalize normal human interactions, create sexual thoughtcrime, and set themselves up as the American equivalent of Oceania's Junior Anti-Sex League. Frankly, I was leery of a movement spearheaded by someone as seemingly unstable as Rose McGowan (who appears to be bent on turning it into some type of personality cult) in the first place, and what's been taking place subsequently hasn't done much to allay my concerns. I guess your concerns aren't really the issue to people dealing with sexual assaults. Also most of what you said is nonsense. Anything, regardless of how well-intentioned, has the potential to be destructive if left to run amok without counter-checks. You don't get rid of your pest problems by burning down your entire house. You don't get rid of muggers by shooting every guy you meet in a hoodie.
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