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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2018 20:18:44 GMT
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Post by mrellaguru on Jul 14, 2018 23:02:23 GMT
Yeah, I love Tetris. My highest score playing Nntendo Tetris is around 416k starting at level 9. I'm amazed by the real masters such as Jonas Neubauer and I know that I'll never be at that level no matter how much I practice.
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Post by mslo79 on Jul 21, 2018 10:51:12 GMT
I played the original Gameboy version the most. but I agree that in general original Tetris (Gameboy/NES etc) is by far the best as I dislike all of those spin-off crap variations of it. my highest score on original gameboy version is 362,588 which I got on July 18th 2010. I suspect this is higher than most people (even though it can't hold a candle to the elite players). NOTE: that 362,588 score was done using a original Tetris gameboy cartridge but was on a Gameboy Advance SP system. I used to have a original gameboy in the early-to-mid 1990's etc. p.s. I cracked the 300k mark at least 15 times on original gameboy Tetris version. mrellaguru Nice. because I know on the Nintendo version you can actually start off at levels higher than Level 9 to get more points for a Tetris(4 lines) but on the original Gameboy version you don't get any more points starting off on a level higher than Level 9. that's why if I had the NES version I would likely go to at least Level 10 (maybe a bit more) when playing as it will likely make it a bit all around easier to score more points before you hit that point where getting more lines starts to raise block fall speed. so you got about 416k on original NES version and I topped out at 362,588 on original Gameboy version but it's hard to say whether you beat me or not given I suspect the scoring is a bit different between the two(?). but it's nice to know you started on Level 9 which makes it more comparable I think because had you started off on a higher level that would likely make it a bit easier for you to rack up points because you get more points for Tetris(4 lines) on the higher levels (like selecting Level 10 or higher to start) on NES version where as on the Gameboy it does not give you extra point when you start off at a higher level higher than level 9. so unless your practicing to get used to more speed it's basically pointless to start on a level higher than 9 on the original gameboy (I always start at level 9 on gameboy since it makes no sense to start off any lower if your going for score which we all do basically and Level 9's speed does not strain me at all and I doubt it strains you either since we are likely similar-ish). but if I had a NES (like the actual console with Tetris) I would likely try starting off on higher level (like level 10, maybe a bit more) to take advantage of the extra points gained from 4lines and I think it stays that way til you hit something like 100 lines or so before the level jumps up as I know on the gameboy version when you start at level 9 it stays there til 100 lines and then every 10 lines past that it goes up one level til it reaches level 20 and stays there. but after a certain level it really starts to strain your hand speed/thinking because even when my thinking can somewhat keep up, my hand speed becomes a issue. plus, that game seems to shaft you a fair amount to out of no where which makes it that much more impressive that the Jonas guy can just load up on one try and consistently score really high etc. I have played the original NES back in the day a bit (was mainly Gameboy version like I mentioned though) but that was when I was roughly a teenager (in the 1990's(I was born late 1979)) as I can tell I must have gotten noticeably better at the game in general when I got a bit older given once I got a hold of a cheap/used Gameboy Advance SP in 2010 (I would have been 30-31 years old at this time) I went and got a original Gameboy tetris cartridge for it and it did not take me too long to clear off nearly all of my old days high scores back when i was a teenager as most of those were in the 1xx,xxx range where as now my Top 15 scores are all 300,000+. I don't fire it up too often but every now and then ill fire it up and put some time into it to see if I can crack the 300k+ mark which is not easy for me as I would say I don't have too much trouble getting into the 1xx,xxx ranges but getting to 2xx,xxx+ is not easy for me and once I get into the 3xx,xxx ranges it's something special basically. but then again I suspect if I played more consistently over months and years without slacking off I would not be surprised if I started to get higher scores on average etc. but what ill usually do is randomly play it quite a bit in a short period of time and then stop playing it again for months or longer before returning to it etc. I can play the NES version on a Emulator for the PC but I am handicapped because I need a proper controller for a game like that where reaction time is crucial. because I fire up the NES version on a emulator here and there but since I am using a XBox360 controller it handicaps me on the d-pad alone as it's no where near as good as the gameboy/NES version is which is perfect since it's more responsive and easier to press etc. Exactly! ; that guy makes that stuff look EASY when it's far from it. like he could go-through-the-motions and wipe the floor with above average Tetris players and do it consistently to. like to even challenge him you got to be pretty damn good as I suspect not many can even make him worry even slightly. and like you, I could practice for months and years and I highly doubt I would ever come close to his level. like it almost seems like he's calm even when he occasionally gets in hot water and bails out of it and not only that, but he does it with the blocks falling at a high rate of speed which really makes you focus really hard on that alone.
like for someone like you or I to beat that Jonas guy... we would have to be on the top of our game and he would flat out have to choke and even then would be a fluke win for us. so for us to beat him and feel good about it... it's not going to happen because, like you said, we could practice our entire life and it's still very unlikely we could touch him especially given that guy can just turn on the system and start playing and do really well play-after-play where as, I don't know about you, but I tend to have to replay quite a few times before I start to do well again etc. like sometimes ill hit a cold streak where the game just screws me and I score really low as sometimes you can build things up really well but then the game just screw you and does not give you that damn line (and then other times gives you plenty of them when you don't even want em). lol ; I am sure you know what I mean.
so like right this moment if I fired up my Tetris on gameboy... I would not be surprised if it took me a little while to crack the 1xx,xxx range but I doubt it would take me too long to do that either. maybe something like 30 minutes tops to get into the 1xx,xxx ranges. but to get into the 2xx,xxx+ ranges... that could take a while as I might be able to do it if I played for a couple hours or something but you just never know as some days your more in the zone than others.
p.s. I figured I would link to this article... www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090901082851.htm ; basically says, "Brain imaging shows playing Tetris leads to a thicker cortex and may also increase brain efficiency, according to a new study." |
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Post by mrellaguru on Jul 21, 2018 18:59:57 GMT
I played the original Gameboy version the most. but I agree that in general original Tetris (Gameboy/NES etc) is by far the best as I dislike all of those spin-off crap variations of it. my highest score on original gameboy version is 362,588 which I got on July 18th 2010. I suspect this is higher than most people (even though it can't hold a candle to the elite players). NOTE: that 362,588 score was done using a original Tetris gameboy cartridge but was on a Gameboy Advance SP system. I used to have a original gameboy in the early-to-mid 1990's etc. p.s. I cracked the 300k mark at least 15 times on original gameboy Tetris version. mrellaguru Nice. because I know on the Nintendo version you can actually start off at levels higher than Level 9 to get more points for a Tetris(4 lines) but on the original Gameboy version you don't get any more points starting off on a level higher than Level 9. that's why if I had the NES version I would likely go to at least Level 10 (maybe a bit more) when playing as it will likely make it a bit all around easier to score more points before you hit that point where getting more lines starts to raise block fall speed. so you got about 416k on original NES version and I topped out at 362,588 on original Gameboy version but it's hard to say whether you beat me or not given I suspect the scoring is a bit different between the two(?). but it's nice to know you started on Level 9 which makes it more comparable I think because had you started off on a higher level that would likely make it a bit easier for you to rack up points because you get more points for Tetris(4 lines) on the higher levels (like selecting Level 10 or higher to start) on NES version where as on the Gameboy it does not give you extra point when you start off at a higher level higher than level 9. so unless your practicing to get used to more speed it's basically pointless to start on a level higher than 9 on the original gameboy (I always start at level 9 on gameboy since it makes no sense to start off any lower if your going for score which we all do basically and Level 9's speed does not strain me at all and I doubt it strains you either since we are likely similar-ish). but if I had a NES (like the actual console with Tetris) I would likely try starting off on higher level (like level 10, maybe a bit more) to take advantage of the extra points gained from 4lines and I think it stays that way til you hit something like 100 lines or so before the level jumps up as I know on the gameboy version when you start at level 9 it stays there til 100 lines and then every 10 lines past that it goes up one level til it reaches level 20 and stays there. but after a certain level it really starts to strain your hand speed/thinking because even when my thinking can somewhat keep up, my hand speed becomes a issue. plus, that game seems to shaft you a fair amount to out of no where which makes it that much more impressive that the Jonas guy can just load up on one try and consistently score really high etc. I have played the original NES back in the day a bit (was mainly Gameboy version like I mentioned though) but that was when I was roughly a teenager (in the 1990's(I was born late 1979)) as I can tell I must have gotten noticeably better at the game in general when I got a bit older given once I got a hold of a cheap/used Gameboy Advance SP in 2010 (I would have been 30-31 years old at this time) I went and got a original Gameboy tetris cartridge for it and it did not take me too long to clear off nearly all of my old days high scores back when i was a teenager as most of those were in the 1xx,xxx range where as now my Top 15 scores are all 300,000+. I don't fire it up too often but every now and then ill fire it up and put some time into it to see if I can crack the 300k+ mark which is not easy for me as I would say I don't have too much trouble getting into the 1xx,xxx ranges but getting to 2xx,xxx+ is not easy for me and once I get into the 3xx,xxx ranges it's something special basically. but then again I suspect if I played more consistently over months and years without slacking off I would not be surprised if I started to get higher scores on average etc. but what ill usually do is randomly play it quite a bit in a short period of time and then stop playing it again for months or longer before returning to it etc. I can play the NES version on a Emulator for the PC but I am handicapped because I need a proper controller for a game like that where reaction time is crucial. because I fire up the NES version on a emulator here and there but since I am using a XBox360 controller it handicaps me on the d-pad alone as it's no where near as good as the gameboy/NES version is which is perfect since it's more responsive and easier to press etc. Exactly! ; that guy makes that stuff look EASY when it's far from it. like he could go-through-the-motions and wipe the floor with above average Tetris players and do it consistently to. like to even challenge him you got to be pretty damn good as I suspect not many can even make him worry even slightly. and like you, I could practice for months and years and I highly doubt I would ever come close to his level. like it almost seems like he's calm even when he occasionally gets in hot water and bails out of it and not only that, but he does it with the blocks falling at a high rate of speed which really makes you focus really hard on that alone.
like for someone like you or I to beat that Jonas guy... we would have to be on the top of our game and he would flat out have to choke and even then would be a fluke win for us. so for us to beat him and feel good about it... it's not going to happen because, like you said, we could practice our entire life and it's still very unlikely we could touch him especially given that guy can just turn on the system and start playing and do really well play-after-play where as, I don't know about you, but I tend to have to replay quite a few times before I start to do well again etc. like sometimes ill hit a cold streak where the game just screws me and I score really low as sometimes you can build things up really well but then the game just screw you and does not give you that damn line (and then other times gives you plenty of them when you don't even want em). lol ; I am sure you know what I mean.
so like right this moment if I fired up my Tetris on gameboy... I would not be surprised if it took me a little while to crack the 1xx,xxx range but I doubt it would take me too long to do that either. maybe something like 30 minutes tops to get into the 1xx,xxx ranges. but to get into the 2xx,xxx+ ranges... that could take a while as I might be able to do it if I played for a couple hours or something but you just never know as some days your more in the zone than others.
p.s. I figured I would link to this article... www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090901082851.htm ; basically says, "Brain imaging shows playing Tetris leads to a thicker cortex and may also increase brain efficiency, according to a new study."
You can get the highest scores with a level 18 start, but that's a little too fast for me. To get the top scores you need to be skilled enough to last on level 18 and beyond. Level 19 is where the speed gets ridiculous.
Nintendo Tetris is much more fun when you start at a higher speed such as level 9. Starting at 0 is so slow that it's almost unplayable for me. Plus you have way better scoring potential and you can clear a bunch of lines before the speed increases.
I also don't care about newer more gimmicky versions of Tetris.
My usual best is in the 200-300k range. I've only gotten over 400k once.
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Post by mslo79 on Jul 23, 2018 6:24:55 GMT
mrellaguruYeah, the higher the start the better potential for score. but like you say, those levels near 20 range are just too damn quick as your hand speed alone is really strained even 'if' your mind can somewhat keep up. because on gameboy version (which I assume is similar enough to the NES version) I have reached Level 20 (starting from level 9) here and there but at this point your heart is beating quite fast and your on the edge of losing it at any moment as you can see it's really straining everything you got to where if you don't have the board almost cleared, one slip or so and your in hot water fast. as for when the block fall speed starts to become more of a concern for me... off the top of my head, as it's been a while since I last played it, but I would say maybe something like Level 13-14 as I know Level 10 and Level 11 ain't much different from Level 9 as it's faster block fall speed but much beyond this you start to feel the speed increase vs the standard level 9, especially once the board starts getting full etc. so I guess for someone like us we try to get as many 4 lines as we can before the 100line mark so as to get your score as high as possible earlier on before the block fall speed really starts to become a issue and your less likely to take risks with getting 4 lines etc. but doing that stuff... it's nice but at the same time it sucks here and there as you can be off to a strong start getting plenty of 4liners and then for whatever reason the game screws you and it all goes out the window before your scores start to approach new records for me. but at this point... I only primarily log scores I crack 300,000+ since that's special territory for me. although I do have some 2xx,xxx range etc logged on the side here and there just sort of for reference to see how long it's been since I last cracked into those ranges etc. Exactly! so unless someone is starting out with the game (or thereabouts), Level 9 should be the standard minimum as Level 0 (and the like) is just way too slow and really screws your score over a lot because getting 4 lines at on those lower levels don't give nearly as much score as Level 9 and higher etc and level 9's speed ain't difficult to deal with as my mind/hand speed easily exceeds that speed (like it takes levels higher than that where I can really start to feel the bite from the fall speed) and I assume yours does to. Seems we are probably similar then. but since you mentioned that... putting aside your over 400k one time thing, what do you suspect your 2nd best score is? ; or do you have no idea? because if you have not cracked much over 300k outside of your single 400k+ time I wonder if it's possible if I have cracked the 300k+ mark more than you(?) even though your high score beats mine (although we are talking different systems with Gameboy vs NES, so it's hard to say since we are not using identical systems). like I can say with certainty I have hit the 300k+ mark at least 15 times because I logged it in a text file on my computer. in fact, here are my Top 15 scores on Gameboy version of Tetris... 1)362,588 (7-18-10) (Under Level 20?) 2)350,317 (5-30-10) (Level 20 , 202 lines) 3)344,074 (5-30-10) (Level 18. Maybe 19-ish?) 4)342,066 (6-9-10) 5)328,296 6)325,425 (7-4-12) (Level 20, 200 lines (or so)) 7)322,052 (4-21-10) 8)318,367 (4-21-10) 9)316,608 (8-4-10) (Level 19 , 198 lines) 10)316,276 (4-20-10) 11)315,465 (6-26-17) 12)312,939 (4-18-10) (Level 17) 13)311,943 (6-25-17) 14)306,109 (4-21-10) 15)302,328 (6-22-10) (Level 20, 200 lines) NOTE: the score above without a date, while I am not sure are probably something like the late 1990's or so which at that time was my only 300k+ score which I sort of consider somewhat of a fluke since, if I recall correctly, the majority of my Top 10 range of high scores at the time were in the 1xx,xxx range with a bit in the 2xx,xxx range and then the fluke 328,296 which was done on a original gameboy I am pretty sure where as everything else on the above list was using a original gameboy Tetris cartridge but on a Gameboy Advance SP system. NOTE: those scores in my #7 and #8 spots are just after I first used the Gameboy Advance SP which I got on April 15th 2010. so as you can see most of my Top 15 scores (11 out of the 15) were set that same year as prior to this I have not played that gameboy Tetris in likely many years (I would guesstimate since about the late 1990's). NOTE: I list those above as month/day/year, not day/month/year like some do in different countries (but I guess you could have figured this out given the 2nd number listed exceeds 12). I am in the USA. p.s. but those who play Tetris can really appreciate that Jonas guy as someone who knows next to nothing about the game probably won't even see his level of skill. like without playing it, one can't really grasp what he does is quite difficult even though he makes it look easy.
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Post by MooseNugget on Jul 23, 2018 16:04:09 GMT
Have you played Puyo Puyo Tetris @joetorrence ?
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Post by mrellaguru on Jul 23, 2018 18:36:12 GMT
mrellaguru Yeah, the higher the start the better potential for score. but like you say, those levels near 20 range are just too damn quick as your hand speed alone is really strained even 'if' your mind can somewhat keep up. because on gameboy version (which I assume is similar enough to the NES version) I have reached Level 20 (starting from level 9) here and there but at this point your heart is beating quite fast and your on the edge of losing it at any moment as you can see it's really straining everything you got to where if you don't have the board almost cleared, one slip or so and your in hot water fast. as for when the block fall speed starts to become more of a concern for me... off the top of my head, as it's been a while since I last played it, but I would say maybe something like Level 13-14 as I know Level 10 and Level 11 ain't much different from Level 9 as it's faster block fall speed but much beyond this you start to feel the speed increase vs the standard level 9, especially once the board starts getting full etc. so I guess for someone like us we try to get as many 4 lines as we can before the 100line mark so as to get your score as high as possible earlier on before the block fall speed really starts to become a issue and your less likely to take risks with getting 4 lines etc. but doing that stuff... it's nice but at the same time it sucks here and there as you can be off to a strong start getting plenty of 4liners and then for whatever reason the game screws you and it all goes out the window before your scores start to approach new records for me. but at this point... I only primarily log scores I crack 300,000+ since that's special territory for me. although I do have some 2xx,xxx range etc logged on the side here and there just sort of for reference to see how long it's been since I last cracked into those ranges etc. Exactly! so unless someone is starting out with the game (or thereabouts), Level 9 should be the standard minimum as Level 0 (and the like) is just way too slow and really screws your score over a lot because getting 4 lines at on those lower levels don't give nearly as much score as Level 9 and higher etc and level 9's speed ain't difficult to deal with as my mind/hand speed easily exceeds that speed (like it takes levels higher than that where I can really start to feel the bite from the fall speed) and I assume yours does to. Seems we are probably similar then. but since you mentioned that... putting aside your over 400k one time thing, what do you suspect your 2nd best score is? ; or do you have no idea? because if you have not cracked much over 300k outside of your single 400k+ time I wonder if it's possible if I have cracked the 300k+ mark more than you(?) even though your high score beats mine (although we are talking different systems with Gameboy vs NES, so it's hard to say since we are not using identical systems). like I can say with certainty I have hit the 300k+ mark at least 15 times because I logged it in a text file on my computer. in fact, here are my Top 15 scores on Gameboy version of Tetris... 1)362,588 (7-18-10) (Under Level 20?) 2)350,317 (5-30-10) (Level 20 , 202 lines) 3)344,074 (5-30-10) (Level 18. Maybe 19-ish?) 4)342,066 (6-9-10) 5)328,296 6)325,425 (7-4-12) (Level 20, 200 lines (or so)) 7)322,052 (4-21-10) 8)318,367 (4-21-10) 9)316,608 (8-4-10) (Level 19 , 198 lines) 10)316,276 (4-20-10) 11)315,465 (6-26-17) 12)312,939 (4-18-10) (Level 17) 13)311,943 (6-25-17) 14)306,109 (4-21-10) 15)302,328 (6-22-10) (Level 20, 200 lines) NOTE: the score above without a date, while I am not sure are probably something like the late 1990's or so which at that time was my only 300k+ score which I sort of consider somewhat of a fluke since, if I recall correctly, the majority of my Top 10 range of high scores at the time were in the 1xx,xxx range with a bit in the 2xx,xxx range and then the fluke 328,296 which was done on a original gameboy I am pretty sure where as everything else on the above list was using a original gameboy Tetris cartridge but on a Gameboy Advance SP system. NOTE: those scores in my #7 and #8 spots are just after I first used the Gameboy Advance SP which I got on April 15th 2010. so as you can see most of my Top 15 scores (11 out of the 15) were set that same year as prior to this I have not played that gameboy Tetris in likely many years (I would guesstimate since about the late 1990's). NOTE: I list those above as month/day/year, not day/month/year like some do in different countries (but I guess you could have figured this out given the 2nd number listed exceeds 12). I am in the USA. p.s. but those who play Tetris can really appreciate that Jonas guy as someone who knows next to nothing about the game probably won't even see his level of skill. like without playing it, one can't really grasp what he does is quite difficult even though he makes it look easy.
I occasionally score over 300k. My second highest score is 371k.
Jonas has it all down to muscle memory. He can get ridiculous scores while being on auto-pilot the entire time chatting and cracking jokes. Playing Tetris is as easy for him as driving a car or tying his shoes. But it's beyond the natural abilities of most people to develop that sort of muscle memory no matter how much they practice. I know that I'll never be that good.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 20:55:51 GMT
mrellaguru Yeah, the higher the start the better potential for score. but like you say, those levels near 20 range are just too damn quick as your hand speed alone is really strained even 'if' your mind can somewhat keep up. because on gameboy version (which I assume is similar enough to the NES version) I have reached Level 20 (starting from level 9) here and there but at this point your heart is beating quite fast and your on the edge of losing it at any moment as you can see it's really straining everything you got to where if you don't have the board almost cleared, one slip or so and your in hot water fast. as for when the block fall speed starts to become more of a concern for me... off the top of my head, as it's been a while since I last played it, but I would say maybe something like Level 13-14 as I know Level 10 and Level 11 ain't much different from Level 9 as it's faster block fall speed but much beyond this you start to feel the speed increase vs the standard level 9, especially once the board starts getting full etc. so I guess for someone like us we try to get as many 4 lines as we can before the 100line mark so as to get your score as high as possible earlier on before the block fall speed really starts to become a issue and your less likely to take risks with getting 4 lines etc. but doing that stuff... it's nice but at the same time it sucks here and there as you can be off to a strong start getting plenty of 4liners and then for whatever reason the game screws you and it all goes out the window before your scores start to approach new records for me. but at this point... I only primarily log scores I crack 300,000+ since that's special territory for me. although I do have some 2xx,xxx range etc logged on the side here and there just sort of for reference to see how long it's been since I last cracked into those ranges etc. Exactly! so unless someone is starting out with the game (or thereabouts), Level 9 should be the standard minimum as Level 0 (and the like) is just way too slow and really screws your score over a lot because getting 4 lines at on those lower levels don't give nearly as much score as Level 9 and higher etc and level 9's speed ain't difficult to deal with as my mind/hand speed easily exceeds that speed (like it takes levels higher than that where I can really start to feel the bite from the fall speed) and I assume yours does to. Seems we are probably similar then. but since you mentioned that... putting aside your over 400k one time thing, what do you suspect your 2nd best score is? ; or do you have no idea? because if you have not cracked much over 300k outside of your single 400k+ time I wonder if it's possible if I have cracked the 300k+ mark more than you(?) even though your high score beats mine (although we are talking different systems with Gameboy vs NES, so it's hard to say since we are not using identical systems). like I can say with certainty I have hit the 300k+ mark at least 15 times because I logged it in a text file on my computer. in fact, here are my Top 15 scores on Gameboy version of Tetris... 1)362,588 (7-18-10) (Under Level 20?) 2)350,317 (5-30-10) (Level 20 , 202 lines) 3)344,074 (5-30-10) (Level 18. Maybe 19-ish?) 4)342,066 (6-9-10) 5)328,296 6)325,425 (7-4-12) (Level 20, 200 lines (or so)) 7)322,052 (4-21-10) 8)318,367 (4-21-10) 9)316,608 (8-4-10) (Level 19 , 198 lines) 10)316,276 (4-20-10) 11)315,465 (6-26-17) 12)312,939 (4-18-10) (Level 17) 13)311,943 (6-25-17) 14)306,109 (4-21-10) 15)302,328 (6-22-10) (Level 20, 200 lines) NOTE: the score above without a date, while I am not sure are probably something like the late 1990's or so which at that time was my only 300k+ score which I sort of consider somewhat of a fluke since, if I recall correctly, the majority of my Top 10 range of high scores at the time were in the 1xx,xxx range with a bit in the 2xx,xxx range and then the fluke 328,296 which was done on a original gameboy I am pretty sure where as everything else on the above list was using a original gameboy Tetris cartridge but on a Gameboy Advance SP system. NOTE: those scores in my #7 and #8 spots are just after I first used the Gameboy Advance SP which I got on April 15th 2010. so as you can see most of my Top 15 scores (11 out of the 15) were set that same year as prior to this I have not played that gameboy Tetris in likely many years (I would guesstimate since about the late 1990's). NOTE: I list those above as month/day/year, not day/month/year like some do in different countries (but I guess you could have figured this out given the 2nd number listed exceeds 12). I am in the USA. p.s. but those who play Tetris can really appreciate that Jonas guy as someone who knows next to nothing about the game probably won't even see his level of skill. like without playing it, one can't really grasp what he does is quite difficult even though he makes it look easy.
I occasionally score over 300k. My second highest score is 371k.
Jonas has it all down to muscle memory. He can get ridiculous scores while being on auto-pilot the entire time chatting and cracking jokes. Playing Tetris is as easy for him as driving a car or tying his shoes. But it's beyond the natural abilities of most people to develop that sort of muscle memory no matter how much they practice. I know that I'll never be that good.
It's been a looong time since I've played it but I thought the NES version would revert back to Level 1 speed if you survived the last level. Maybe it's muddled in my memory but I remember it getting easier for a bit after the difficulty maxed out. |
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Post by mrellaguru on Jul 23, 2018 21:07:06 GMT
I occasionally score over 300k. My second highest score is 371k.
Jonas has it all down to muscle memory. He can get ridiculous scores while being on auto-pilot the entire time chatting and cracking jokes. Playing Tetris is as easy for him as driving a car or tying his shoes. But it's beyond the natural abilities of most people to develop that sort of muscle memory no matter how much they practice. I know that I'll never be that good.
It's been a looong time since I've played it but I thought the NES version would revert back to Level 1 speed if you survived the last level. Maybe it's muddled in my memory but I remember it getting easier for a bit after the difficulty maxed out.
Maybe you're thinking of the Tengen version? I've never played it, but apparently it never gets that fast and so the game is a marathon for good players.
In the Nintendo version, level 29 is so fast that it is referred to as the kill screen. Only a very few players have ever reached level 30. Jonas is probably the greatest Tetris player in the world and I don't think that even he has reached 30.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 21:15:25 GMT
It's been a looong time since I've played it but I thought the NES version would revert back to Level 1 speed if you survived the last level. Maybe it's muddled in my memory but I remember it getting easier for a bit after the difficulty maxed out.
Maybe you're thinking of the Tengen version? I've never played it, but apparently it never gets that fast and so the game is a marathon for good players.
In the Nintendo version, level 29 is so fast that it is referred to as the kill screen. Only a very few players have ever reached level 30. Jonas is probably the greatest Tetris player in the world and I don't think that even he has reached 30.
No, just the regular version. Weird that I'd misremember that. Maybe I've mixed it up with something else. |
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Post by mslo79 on Jul 24, 2018 6:47:40 GMT
mrellaguru Okay, in that case ill have to give you the overall edge most likely even though I think we are probably similar skill level overall with you having the slight edge given your high scores topped mine and since Jonas (and other high ups) uses the NES chances are it's a bit better than Gameboy version (but both are solid as they are the versions everyone likes as those other versions suck). I have played Tetris on a actual NES but it's been a long time (probably sometime in the 1990's) as I am sure I have gotten better at Tetris in more recent memory (given what I said above clearing nearly all of my old days scores not long after I got a Gameboy Advance SP in 2010) than when I was in my teens to 20-ish area. who knows, I may try to get a hold of a NES and Tetris at some point (as I need a actual NES type of gamepad as it's crucial for a game like Tetris as running it on a Emulator with my XBox360 controller clearly handicaps me since the d-pad sucks on a XBox360 for a game like Tetris) as I know it's a game I won't ever get tired of playing. plus, it would be nice to see if I can crack the 400,000+ mark and then I can see what I can do with upping the level higher at the start to see if that can bump my score a bit to. I think it's possible I could crack 400k on gameboy but it damn sure won't be easy for me and who knows, maybe I never will. but I suspect some of it is ill have to invest more time into playing it on a regular basis (or at least noticeably more often than I currently do as I only fire it up occasionally and hit it in bursts of hours etc) as some days I am just off and nothing seems to work while others I can tell I am a bit more in the zone. p.s. I would be curious to see what Jonas thinks about the Gameboy and NES versions in terms of differences etc. just to see if they are at least comparable as if they are then chances are my estimate of us being close, with you having the slight edge, are probably true. Yeah, he's somewhat of a anomaly it seems as the last time he lost was 2014 according to... kotaku.com/the-worlds-top-tetris-players-secret-to-success-is-lear-1821503866 (article from Dec 21st 2017) ; seems it's (the recent serious NES Tetris tournaments) been around since 2010 and he's only lost in 2014 which given he's won nearly all of the time, that loss in 2014 was probably somewhat of a fluke. that's not to take anything away from the winner that year(in 2014) which was Harry Hong but when one guy(Jonas) has nearly always won since 2010 to date you just sort of assume his loss was more of a fluke then a legitimate loss. still, it would be nice being Harry Hong as your the only guy who can claim to have beaten Jonas basically  a quote from that article... "There’s players that can actually vibrate their thumb and move pieces left and right faster than I can,” he[Jonas] said, but without being able to cull these advantages into a higher level of strategy, it doesn’t amount to much." but that article is worth a read ; it talks about other versions of Tetris (the crappier ones as I, like you, always preferred the NES (or Gameboy) original one and the hell with the rest) and he says certain versions favor more speedy players etc which he says can beat him on other versions but he's basically the undisputed king on the NES Tetris which is the best in my mind anyways. I also noticed in that article that while it's basically the NES version of the game it's a bit tweaked to remove the luck factor... "Even though the World Championship is based on the NES version of the game, it’s not played on NES hardware. It’s not even the standard version of the game. What’s used in the Championship is a specially tweaked version of the game, running via an emulator, that gives each competitor the exact same randomly-generated sequence of falling pieces. This eliminates the luck factor; you won’t lose because the guy next to you kept getting four-bars to complete his Tetrises while you were stuck with an endless run of Z-shapes." ; so that's definitely nice as I could easily see someone complaining they lost because of that factor. so they simply removed it so that no one has a excuse since both get the exact same pieces. p.s. looks like Harry Hong was the first verified player to get 999,999 score on NES in 2009 according to that article. Yeah, given the tournaments since 2010 (which is basically when things got serious) Jonas has only lost once in 2014 which is pretty safe to say he's hands down the best at the original NES version. but I did not know off the top of my head that the NES goes to level 30 was I was thinking it topped out at Level 20 like the Gameboy version does. because I know the Gameboy version tops out at Level 20 and I have reached that once in a while. so I guess knowing this... on some level that would make the gameboy version easier (still not easy for sure, but for Jonas it's probably easy) than the NES version since, I would imagine, block speed won't fall as fast on gameboy. plus, given your comments with NES on the Level 29 and Level 30 stuff it seems insane as if Jonas is struggling(and pretty much everyone else) you know that it's extremely difficult and nearly impossible. because given what you said I would imagine the fall speed is so fast that you just can't keep up with it and you would need golden finger speed to even have a small chance. but given your comments about Jonas not reaching Level 30 etc while others have... Jonas himself said some are faster on the d-pad than he is which I would imagine when your at insane block fall speed that extra finger speed probably becomes a factor.
You must be thinking of something else.
basically you load up the game and you can shoot straight to whatever level you want (I don't think you can start off any higher then level 19 though off the top of my head(?)). only up to Level 9 is normally selectable but there is some button combo that allows you to jump straight to Level 10-19 if you want to and block fall speed increases as the level increases which makes it harder. trust me, after a certain level things start to suck ; so the only question is... at what point does the block fall speed start to suck, which will vary from person to person depending on ones skill level.
but that Jonas guy seems to be able to comfortably play at high speed where as me I am pretty much screwed if the board is not pretty clean when I start getting into higher levels, say something like Level 15-ish off the top of my head. it seems like that Jonas guy starts off at I want to say somewhere around Level 16 if I recall correctly in watching his championship videos on YouTube a while ago which for me is not comfortable to play at as for me while I don't have trouble at all with Level 9 in terms of speed (as my hands/mind can easily keep up with that) it's probably something like Level 13-ish when I start feeling the bite from the fall speed and you have less room for error and I have to start focusing harder etc.
but one thing I could probably do to get better is get used to playing at higher speeds as that should be a good place for me to start at getting better because if I can play at higher levels with less strain on me, it will probably raise my chances of scoring higher. but like I already mentioned... on the gameboy version while you can start off at a level higher than Level 9 you get no additional points for Tetrises where as on the NES version you do. that's one reason it's somewhat pointless to start any higher than Level 9 on gameboy because it makes it harder on you but without any benefit outside of the practice of getting used to playing at higher speeds. but with the NES you actually score more for tetrises when starting off on a level higher than Level 9. but with that said... when playing gameboy Tetris on level 9 and then you hit the 100 line mark, the game shifts to level 10, and at this point you do actually get more points for getting tetrises(4lines at a time) and the points increase with each level up til it maxes at level 20. I think a tetris(4lines) at level 9 on the gameboy is 12,000 points from memory but on Level 10 it increases but I am not sure how much it does off the top of my head per level. but I am pretty sure I have observed at least 16,000 points from getting tetrises on gameboy but I am not sure at which level that is.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2018 7:24:05 GMT
mslo79I see. Perhaps I'm thinking of Robotron or Galaga or something like that. Yeah, I know, very different games but kinda similar in how hectic they can get. I remember being good at Tetris but I can't recall my high-score. For awhile, I was on the down and out but I still had a CRT and an NES and pretty much all I would do is play Tetris and Dr. Mario. I remember it being one of those games where if you zone out and let your mind drift, you do better and the pieces just fall into place.
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