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Post by James Bond on Jul 22, 2018 15:45:45 GMT
Iron Man 3 was set after The Avengers. Why weren't Cap, Thor, Hulk, Black Widow, Hawkeye and Nick Fury in that? Best guess Cap -Was on a mission elsewhere Thor - Was in Asguard Hulk - Banner was keeping out of the loop on purpose at Stark Tower Black Widow - Also on a mission elsewhere doing spy shit. Hawkeye - Probably at home with the famly or on assignment somewhere Fury - Overseeing other threats and didn't consider Mandarin a priority...that or he took his eye off the ball for a minute, could have been focused on bringing Coulson back if you count the TV stuff, that or too busy digging into the Hydra stuff, you know Fury has a lot on his plate give the man a break people jeez. 
No, I wasn't actually asking. I'm saying if he's gonna ask the question he asked in the OP, he should ask that question too. |
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Post by hobowar on Jul 22, 2018 15:51:44 GMT
Iron Man 3 was set after The Avengers. Why weren't Cap, Thor, Hulk, Black Widow, Hawkeye and Nick Fury in that? They were probably celebrating Christmas. |
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Post by NormanClature on Jul 22, 2018 16:07:14 GMT
Iron Man 3 was set after The Avengers. Why weren't Cap, Thor, Hulk, Black Widow, Hawkeye and Nick Fury in that? I don't know. Go ask the question on the MCU board. We are discussing Aquaman here.  |
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Post by James Bond on Jul 22, 2018 16:08:42 GMT
Iron Man 3 was set after The Avengers. Why weren't Cap, Thor, Hulk, Black Widow, Hawkeye and Nick Fury in that? I don't know. Go ask the question on the MCU board. We are discussing Aquaman here. See my post at the top of this page. |
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Post by dazz on Jul 22, 2018 16:13:17 GMT
Best guess Cap -Was on a mission elsewhere Thor - Was in Asguard Hulk - Banner was keeping out of the loop on purpose at Stark Tower Black Widow - Also on a mission elsewhere doing spy shit. Hawkeye - Probably at home with the famly or on assignment somewhere Fury - Overseeing other threats and didn't consider Mandarin a priority...that or he took his eye off the ball for a minute, could have been focused on bringing Coulson back if you count the TV stuff, that or too busy digging into the Hydra stuff, you know Fury has a lot on his plate give the man a break people jeez.
No, I wasn't actually asking. I'm saying if he's gonna ask the question he asked in the OP, he should ask that question too. Yeah but a lot of other people are too dumb to come up with any reason for themselves so atleast if they read that they might be able to grasp the idea, but then we are talking about the likes of DC-Fan who will likely ignore it entirely for his own imagined plot and scenes from the films where he is adamant that Hawkeye or Cap had left Tony a message in IM3 telling him "hey Tony saw the news I got yah back so long as you can pay because you know us Avengers we charge, and we charge a lot, later bro" but you know whatever. |
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Post by James Bond on Jul 22, 2018 16:16:40 GMT
No, I wasn't actually asking. I'm saying if he's gonna ask the question he asked in the OP, he should ask that question too. Yeah but a lot of other people are too dumb to come up with any reason for themselves so atleast if they read that they might be able to grasp the idea, but then we are talking about the likes of DC-Fan who will likely ignore it entirely for his own imagined plot and scenes from the films where he is adamant that Hawkeye or Cap had left Tony a message in IM3 telling him "hey Tony saw the news I got yah back so long as you can pay because you know us Avengers we charge, and we charge a lot, later bro" but you know whatever. Fair enough. |
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Post by NormanClature on Jul 22, 2018 16:19:28 GMT
I don't know. Go ask the question on the MCU board. We are discussing Aquaman here. See my post at the top of this page. I saw the post and I did ask the same question.........5 years ago.
I am talking about Aquaman now. |
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Post by James Bond on Jul 22, 2018 16:27:03 GMT
See my post at the top of this page. I saw the post and I did ask the same question.........5 years ago. I am talking about Aquaman now. Same answer, surely. There's really no logical reason other than this is his movie. |
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Post by brownstones on Jul 22, 2018 16:53:59 GMT
I mean..... no offense, but you can say the same thing about like.... Iron Man 3, Cap2, Thor2
Even in comics you dont have crossovers every issue, sometimes a hero needs a solo story.
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Post by politicidal on Jul 22, 2018 17:18:53 GMT
I mean..... no offense, but you can say the same thing about like.... Iron Man 3, Cap2, Thor2 Even in comics you dont have crossovers every issue, sometimes a hero needs a solo story. Exactly. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 22, 2018 19:32:17 GMT
Iron Man 3 was set after The Avengers. Why weren't Cap, Thor, Hulk, Black Widow, Hawkeye and Nick Fury in that? They were probably celebrating Christmas. Why the fuck would Thor celebrate Christmas? Thor obviously doesn't believe that Jesus was the Son of God. |
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Post by hobowar on Jul 22, 2018 20:38:57 GMT
They were probably celebrating Christmas. Why the fuck would Thor celebrate Christmas? Thor obviously doesn't believe that Jesus was the Son of God. You've given me a lot to think about. |
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Post by NormanClature on Jul 22, 2018 21:16:56 GMT
They were probably celebrating Christmas. Why the fuck would Thor celebrate Christmas? Thor obviously doesn't believe that Jesus was the Son of God. Wow! This is super racist against Christianity! 
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 22, 2018 21:20:08 GMT
Why the fuck would Thor celebrate Christmas? Thor obviously doesn't believe that Jesus was the Son of God. Wow! This is super racist against Christianity!
I don't believe Jesus was the son of God and I celebrate Christmas. How the fuck is that racist? Thor believes that Odin is the King of the Gods and he himself is the Son of Odin. So why would Thor believe Jesus was the Son of God? |
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Post by NormanClature on Jul 22, 2018 21:25:20 GMT
Wow! This is super racist against Christianity!
I don't believe Jesus was the son of God and I celebrate Christmas. How the fuck is that racist? Thor believes that Odin is the King of the Gods and he himself is the Son of Odin. So why would Thor believe Jesus was the Son of God? Thor doesn't have to believe Jesus is the son of God before he can celebrate Christmas. |
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Post by dazz on Jul 22, 2018 21:46:09 GMT
Wow! This is super racist against Christianity!
I don't believe Jesus was the son of God and I celebrate Christmas. How the fuck is that racist? Thor believes that Odin is the King of the Gods and he himself is the Son of Odin. So why would Thor believe Jesus was the Son of God? No he doesn't he believes they are a separate species with greater strength and longevity to humans, the only ones who consider themselves actual gods are the megalomaniacal villains, Odin even says that Asguardians are not gods they live and they die just like humans, only for Loki to note give or take a few thousand years.
The reason Thor wouldn't celebrate Christmas is because he's from a different culture, much like how other countries or religions don't themselves celebrate Christmas, also being 1500 years old and his father being far older makes the idea they celebrated the birth of a human born likely thousands of years after Odin was born unlikely, but you know you continue with your won bullshit reasoning numbnuts.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 23, 2018 7:21:56 GMT
Killmonger did not defeat T'Challa because T'Challa wasn't killed and he didn't yield. Killmonger did defeat T'Challa. Because when Killmonger was about to cut off T'Challa's head, Zuri stopped Killmonger. Since Zuri was basically the referee of the fight, by interfering in the fight and stopping Killmonger from killing T'Challa, Zuri is basically yielding for T'Challa and declaring Killmonger the winner. That's what happens in fights. When the referee steps in and stops the fight, that means the fight is over and the fighter who is still standing is the winner. So Killmonger did defeat T'Challa and did legally win the fight, which is why Killmonger was coronated as the legal and rightful King of Wakanda. You say that Ross participates in a coup, but then Mera is starting a coup by going to get Arthur to overthrow the rightful King of Atlantis Ross is an agent of the American government so Ross' actions represent America and thus Ross' participation in an illegal coup against the legal and rightful King of a foreign country could be considered as the US supporting an illegal overthrow of the legal and rightful King, which could result in getting the US involved in a war that POTUS doesn't want the US to be in. Mera is an Atlantean so her actions don't represent the surface-dwellers or any foreign nations. Her actions are internal to Atlantis. What do you think they see Arthur as? Arthur is the son of the Queen so Arthur not only has Atlantean blood but Atlantean royal blood. Just because Arthur is half Atlantean means nothing. He is still an outsider. Arthur isn't just half-Atlantean. Arthur's mother is the Queen so Arthur is Atlantean royalty. You're basing their ritual fighting on boxing/mma? T'Challa himself didn't die or yield.
Actually, Mera would be the equivalent of Nakia. So... Aquaman is basically the 3rd act of Black Panther when they went to M'Baku for help in overthrowing Killmonger, but found T'Challa. The same as Mera going outside of Atlantis to find Arthur for help overthrowing Orm. The rightful king of Atlantis.
He's still an outsider. And has less Atlantean blood than Orm.
Again, half-blood means he's less Atlantean.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 23, 2018 7:29:43 GMT
Iron Man 3 was set after The Avengers. Why weren't Cap, Thor, Hulk, Black Widow, Hawkeye and Nick Fury in that? Iron Man 3 was a small matter and something he could take care of himself. Or so he believed. Because this is Stark. Iron Man 3 wasn't an invasion like Aquaman. Aquaman actually went at Batman for going on a suicide mission. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 23, 2018 8:59:11 GMT
Killmonger did defeat T'Challa. Because when Killmonger was about to cut off T'Challa's head, Zuri stopped Killmonger. Since Zuri was basically the referee of the fight, by interfering in the fight and stopping Killmonger from killing T'Challa, Zuri is basically yielding for T'Challa and declaring Killmonger the winner. That's what happens in fights. When the referee steps in and stops the fight, that means the fight is over and the fighter who is still standing is the winner. So Killmonger did defeat T'Challa and did legally win the fight, which is why Killmonger was coronated as the legal and rightful King of Wakanda. Ross is an agent of the American government so Ross' actions represent America and thus Ross' participation in an illegal coup against the legal and rightful King of a foreign country could be considered as the US supporting an illegal overthrow of the legal and rightful King, which could result in getting the US involved in a war that POTUS doesn't want the US to be in. Mera is an Atlantean so her actions don't represent the surface-dwellers or any foreign nations. Her actions are internal to Atlantis. Arthur is the son of the Queen so Arthur not only has Atlantean blood but Atlantean royal blood. Arthur isn't just half-Atlantean. Arthur's mother is the Queen so Arthur is Atlantean royalty. You're basing their ritual fighting on boxing/mma? T'Challa himself didn't die or yield.
Actually, Mera would be the equivalent of Nakia. So... Aquaman is basically the 3rd act of Black Panther when they went to M'Baku for help in overthrowing Killmonger, but found T'Challa. The same as Mera going outside of Atlantis to find Arthur for help overthrowing Orm. The rightful king of Atlantis.
He's still an outsider. And has less Atlantean blood than Orm. Again, half-blood means he's less Atlantean.
Like I said, Zuri yielded for T'Challa. When a referee feels that a fighter is unable to continue the fight and is too incapacitated to yield for himself, the referee can step in and stop the fight and that's effectively the same as the fighter yielding, basically the referee yields on behalf of the fighter who is too incapicated to yield for himself. That was the case with T'Challa. Zuri was basically the referee and he saw that T'Challa was unable to continue the fight and too incapacitated to yield for himself so Zuri stepped in and stopped the fight, which effectively is the same as T'Challa yielding. So Killmonger legally won the fight and and the throne, which is why Killmonger was coronated as the legal and rightful King of Wakanda. As for Arthur, it doesn't matter if he's only half-Atlantean. His mother is the Queen so he's Atlantean royalty. It's no different than Prince Albert, the ruling monarch of Monaco. His mother was not only not a royal but also not even from Monaco. His mother was born and raised and lived her whole life prior to marrying Prince Rainier in America. But his father was Prince Rainier so he's royalty and is the legal and rightful monarch. Arthur actually has a stronger claim to the throne of Atlantis than Killmonger had to the throne of Wakanda. You bring up "equivalents". Well, Arthur (the oldest son of the Queen) is equivalent to Prince William and Orm (the younger son of the Queen) is equivalent to Price Harry. By contrast, Killmonger is equivalent to Prince William's cousin, who is pretty far down in the line of royal succession. |
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Post by sostie on Jul 23, 2018 10:52:52 GMT
If MCU characters do appear in another's movie DC Fan complains..if they don't he compalains..if they do either in a DCEU film it doesn't matter.
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