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Post by BATouttaheck on Mar 19, 2019 23:38:22 GMT
... People who claim to have seen them or experienced ghost encounters are either mistaken, delusional, or "stretching the truth" to get attention. Never underestimate the power of the desire for attention as a motivator of human behavior. what about the people who don't "believe in ghosts" have no "interest" in ghosts and yet have experienced things that can only be explained as being "ghostly" or "spirits" and who are reluctant to tell about these experiences?
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Post by gbone on Mar 20, 2019 1:13:49 GMT
I would like to think yes but probably no.
According to estimates by demographic researchers at the Population Reference Bureau (PRB), as of 2015, there have been 108.2 billion who have ever been born. Taking away the roughly 7.4 billion who are alive today, we get 100.8 billion who have died before us.
So, shouldn’t there be a shit load of ghosts sightings out there instead of the number that people claim?
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Post by permutojoe on Mar 20, 2019 1:23:13 GMT
All you have to do is watch ghost shows for a few hours to realize they aren't real.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Mar 20, 2019 1:43:24 GMT
... People who claim to have seen them or experienced ghost encounters are either mistaken, delusional, or "stretching the truth" to get attention. Never underestimate the power of the desire for attention as a motivator of human behavior. what about the people who don't "believe in ghosts" have no "interest" in ghosts and yet have experienced things that can only be explained as being "ghostly" or "spirits" and who are reluctant to tell about these experiences? They fall into the mistaken category.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Mar 20, 2019 3:07:31 GMT
maybe
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2019 7:18:27 GMT
On more of a serious note than my previous post I think it is possible they do. I have seen weird things and heard weird noises over the years and a lot of people I know have too and I woke up shaking one time at this place we were staying at and it was like was like somebody was doing it to me but my Wifey was asleep and that was really creepy.
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Post by Xcalatë on Mar 20, 2019 10:23:27 GMT
Of course not.
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Post by Sulla on Mar 20, 2019 12:53:16 GMT
No. I've seen no compelling evidence that spirits or souls of people exist. It's a fun idea, though.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Mar 20, 2019 16:36:51 GMT
... People who claim to have seen them or experienced ghost encounters are either mistaken, delusional, or "stretching the truth" to get attention. Never underestimate the power of the desire for attention as a motivator of human behavior. what about the people who don't "believe in ghosts" have no "interest" in ghosts and yet have experienced things that can only be explained as being "ghostly" or "spirits" and who are reluctant to tell about these experiences? Already addressed in the original paragraph you yourself responded to. I bolded and underlined it for your convenience.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Mar 20, 2019 16:37:40 GMT
All you have to do is watch ghost shows for a few hours to realize they aren't real. Yeah, the more I watch shows like that the LESS I believe!
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Mar 20, 2019 16:44:43 GMT
On more of a serious note than my previous post I think it is possible they do. I have seen weird things and heard weird noises over the years and a lot of people I know have too and I woke up shaking one time at this place we were staying at and it was like was like somebody was doing it to me but my Wifey was asleep and that was really creepy. So... you had a dream someone was banging you.
A) Yeah, that happens. Nothing supernatural about that
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B) tell me more...
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Post by Nalkarj on Mar 20, 2019 16:47:12 GMT
what about the people who don't "believe in ghosts" have no "interest" in ghosts and yet have experienced things that can only be explained as being "ghostly" or "spirits" and who are reluctant to tell about these experiences? Already addressed in the original paragraph you yourself responded to. I bolded and underlined it for your convenience.
As Taylor has already responded to Bat’s question respectfully, you don’t need to respond to it sarcastically. Nevertheless, as a person whom you’d consider, then, mistaken, delusional, or mendacious, I’d be interested in your debunking of my real-life experiences. I’ve tried to debunk them, to no avail thus far.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Mar 20, 2019 16:58:46 GMT
Already addressed in the original paragraph you yourself responded to. I bolded and underlined it for your convenience.
As Taylor has already responded to Bat’s question respectfully, you don’t need to respond to it sarcastically. Nevertheless, as a person whom you’d consider, then, mistaken, delusional, or mendacious, I’d be interested in your debunking of my real-life experiences. I’ve tried to debunk them, to no avail thus far. A) Apologies for the sarcasm
A.1) I'm an asshole and A.2) I hadn't seen his before I posted
B) As to you experiences: Occam's Razor - What is an example of Occam's razor? Best Explanation Is the Simplest. Some examples of Occam's razor include the following: Event: One of the fence posts is broken. Of possible explanations a) A moose ran through it or b) Some screws fell out of it because it is old, "b" is the likelier explanation. Examples of Occam's Razor - YourDictionary examples.yourdictionary.com/examples-of-occam-s-razor.html
Why attribute to ghosts things that can be explained simply by perfectly logical things? Sounds are just sounds. Things moving are just things moving. Cold spots are just cold spots. Feelings are just feelings. There's nothing supernatural about any of that other that what we bring to it with our own imaginations and superstitions, even when we're not aware we're doing it.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Mar 20, 2019 17:07:50 GMT
and people wonder why some people are "reluctant to tell about these experiences" much less to bring them up in an "anonymous" forum where any response goes in the name of levity and self amusement.
Possibly people are "mistaken"... possibly not ! and not provable either way !
What would explain the things that happen for no logical, physical, psychological explainable reason ?
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Post by Nalkarj on Mar 20, 2019 17:37:23 GMT
As Taylor has already responded to Bat’s question respectfully, you don’t need to respond to it sarcastically. Nevertheless, as a person whom you’d consider, then, mistaken, delusional, or mendacious, I’d be interested in your debunking of my real-life experiences. I’ve tried to debunk them, to no avail thus far. A) Apologies for the sarcasm
A.1) I'm an asshole and A.2) I hadn't seen his before I posted
B) As to you experiences: Occam's Razor - What is an example of Occam's razor? Best Explanation Is the Simplest. Some examples of Occam's razor include the following: Event: One of the fence posts is broken. Of possible explanations a) A moose ran through it or b) Some screws fell out of it because it is old, "b" is the likelier explanation. Examples of Occam's Razor - YourDictionary examples.yourdictionary.com/examples-of-occam-s-razor.html
Why attribute to ghosts things that can be explained simply by perfectly logical things? Sounds are just sounds. Things moving are just things moving. Cold spots are just cold spots. Feelings are just feelings. There's nothing supernatural about any of that other that what we bring to it with our own imaginations and superstitions, even when we're not aware we're doing it.
I appreciate the apology, though I’m not the person towards whom it should be directed. I also know Occam’s Razor, of course. But I never said I experienced ghosts. I said I don’t know. You made the claim that it was definitely not ghosts. In the absence of other explanations, for which I asked you, I have to say it’s something I’ve been unable to solve.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Mar 21, 2019 23:34:38 GMT
Why attribute to ghosts things that can be explained simply by perfectly logical things? Sounds are just sounds. Things moving are just things moving. Cold spots are just cold spots. Feelings are just feelings. There's nothing supernatural about any of that other that what we bring to it with our own imaginations and superstitions, even when we're not aware we're doing it.
Simply because logic does not explain everything whether we want it to and would prefer it to or not, lenlenlen1. Non-believers experience things. It's not like the cases of only Catholics seeing the Virgin Mary.
Can you de-bunk the stories posted by Nalkarj ? Still waiting for an easy to find explanation to those.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Mar 22, 2019 4:36:16 GMT
Here's a review of a Paul Gallico novel, Too Many Ghosts:
This reads like a suspense story, with ""too many ghosts"" providing the inexplicable action, in practically every phase that ghosts provide. There's the nun that portends dire disaster to the Paradines; there's the harp that plays in an empty, locked room; there are mischievous evidences in the way of moving furniture, falling pictures, broken ornaments and flying bricks that indicate a poltergeist with a turn for humor. But there is danger as well, and threat to the happiness and safety of some of the guests- paying and otherwise- and to some of the family. Alexander Hero was summoned from London to lay the ghosts once and for all. An informed and experienced sceptic, he longed for one real ghost. But- with the help of his step-sister, Lady Meg, and her battery of tiny cameras- all these ghosts turned out to have more than evident help from human sources. Let's say this is a spoof on spooks, but it makes very entertaining reading. Pub Date: Nov. 2nd, 1959 Publisher: Doubleday
The book tells how many "hauntings" can be faked, and it's an interesting read, with a nod to things that cannot be explained.
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 22, 2019 6:57:05 GMT
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Post by Morgana on Mar 22, 2019 7:12:32 GMT
I believe that ghosts exists, I think I've seen one myself. Also my mother and her family have numerous instances of ghostly goings on.
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Mar 22, 2019 7:45:25 GMT
Second, the Church very clearly and emphatically teaches that all attempts to conjure up or contact the dead are ABSOLUTELY FORBIDDEN!!
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