Not counting shocking\surprising deaths.

Aug 20, 2018 16:22:21 GMT Aj_June said:

Aug 20, 2018 14:48:17 GMT CoolJGS☺ said:

It was consensual on the show too.

Not really. Cersei had resisted it. The thing is do you consider resistance of a lover on a particular day as rape. I do. But others may not.

Multiple reviewers and websites were very confused and upset by the sex scene between Jaime Lannister and Cersei Lannister in the Great Sept of Baelor (in front of their own son's corpse) in the third episode of Season 4, "Breaker of Chains" - saying that it was apparently portraying Jaime raping Cersei. This allegation/interpretation was near-universal – not simply "on messageboards" but in every measurable manner, as a reaction seen on almost every major critic or review website. These ranged from io9 and the A.V. club,[2][3], to the front page of Yahoo News,[4], Entertainment Weekly and Time magazine,[5][6], and even the front page of The New York Times itself.[7]

gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Breaker_of_Chains/Jaime-Cersei_sex_scene

The script writers and people involved in show did eventually suggest that it wasn;t rape but their comments came after the scene had been criticised a lot and even they were ambiguous in their comments.

“It becomes a really kind of horrifying scene, because you see, obviously, Joffrey’s body right there, and you see that Cersei is resisting this. She’s saying no, and he’s forcing himself on her,” Benioff said.

I didn't see it as rape simply because what started out as resistance quickly and obviously turned into something she was enjoying and that happens consensually among couples often.

I read it largely the same way as I read the book version of events and I think that was the show's intention too although it may not have come off well.

This is what the director intended:

www.vulture.com/2014/04/game-of-thrones-director-on-the-rape-sex-scene.html

It' funny because the interviewer keeps calling it rape despite the director saying it isn;t and I think that's what happens when news reports on stuff and the creators can't be seen to be pro-rape.

A grayer area is Sansa's wedding night rape since, while she knew she would have to have sex with Ramsy, she did not agree to the nature of it or Theon being there.

Aug 20, 2018 17:29:46 GMT Marv said:

Ser Mandon Moore’s attempted assasination of Tyrion. Originally reading it from Tyrion’s perspective in one of his chapters...he thinks about how well they’re fighting together. It reads like a fair bit of praise and almost admiration toward Ser Mandon. Then he cuts him.

As for the show I’d have to go...the fact that only Thoros dies beyond the Wall. I expected at least a few more casualties. There were red shirts but of the main seven characters that were there.

That reminds of Blackwater in general.

I had never seen that level of pyrotechnics in a show and for it to be beautiful too was very shocking.

In the book, since I had already seen the seen up to season 3 of the show when I started reading, the shocking thing was how callous Tyrion was toward implementing it. In the book, a lot of his own men die in the trap.