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Post by Aj_June on Aug 17, 2018 10:54:55 GMT
The man had contempt for people born in nobility (even the bastards)? He hated Jon and Benjen and was just seeing 4th episode of season 1 and I think he hated Sam right from the beginning. It was not so much Sam's cowardice and lethargy that he hated as his birth in a high family. He may have been a brave man but I could never like his character.
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Post by Winter_King on Aug 17, 2018 10:55:47 GMT
There is no cure for being a cunt.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Aug 17, 2018 11:06:07 GMT
Thorne was highborn himself. He saw Jon as the complete idiot he is and his prediction came true.
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Post by shinnickneth on Aug 17, 2018 17:26:39 GMT
The man had contempt for people born in nobility (even the bastards)? He hated Jon and Benjen and was just seeing 4th episode of season 1 and I think he hated Sam right from the beginning. It was not so much Sam's cowardice and lethargy that he hated as his birth in a high family. He may have been a brave man but I could never like his character.
Ser Alliser's resentment stems from losing the war (he sided with the Targaryens) and having to join the Night's Watch. The irony of course is that he treats Jon horribly, but Jon would be his true king (being the son of Rhaegar Targaryen). They made him more unlikable in the show having him be the mastermind behind the assassination of Jon. Alliser isn't involved in the books. He isn't even at the Wall when it happens. |
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 17, 2018 17:29:38 GMT
The man had contempt for people born in nobility (even the bastards)? He hated Jon and Benjen and was just seeing 4th episode of season 1 and I think he hated Sam right from the beginning. It was not so much Sam's cowardice and lethargy that he hated as his birth in a high family. He may have been a brave man but I could never like his character.
Ser Alliser's resentment stems from losing the war (he sided with the Targaryens) and having to join the Night's Watch. The irony of course is that he treats Jon horribly, but Jon would be his true king (being the son of Rhaegar Targaryen). They made him more unlikable in the show having him be the mastermind behind the assassination of Jon. Alliser isn't involved in the books. He isn't even at the Wall when it happens. Yeah I agree with that but even Tarly's were loyal to the Targaryens. But he wasn't kind to Sam either. I guess he became a prick after his side lost the war. |
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Post by shinnickneth on Aug 17, 2018 17:55:26 GMT
Yeah I agree with that but even Tarly's were loyal to the Targaryens. But he wasn't kind to Sam either. I guess he became a prick after his side lost the war. That's true. Everyone thought the Targaryens were gone for good though. Randyll Tarly had to switch allegiances to protect his own position and his family. Like Randyll tells Dany, he already switched sides once - he couldn't do it again. No one would have trust or respected him at that point. He would just be a turn-cloak. |
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Post by ghostintheshell on Aug 18, 2018 5:56:46 GMT
Dude was sexually frustrated
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Aug 18, 2018 20:59:33 GMT
The man had contempt for people born in nobility (even the bastards)? He hated Jon and Benjen and was just seeing 4th episode of season 1 and I think he hated Sam right from the beginning. It was not so much Sam's cowardice and lethargy that he hated as his birth in a high family. He may have been a brave man but I could never like his character.
I couldn't stand him either I think Alliser was a very mean spirited human being he had no reason to dislike Jon or Sam they were behaving following orders I just think he was jealous maybe of Jon quickly becoming a favorite which he did and eventually lord commander I was hoping through the seasons that he would have a change of heart and get along with Jon but he was more relentless |
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 18, 2018 21:26:12 GMT
Dude was sexually frustrated Yeah. His pride might have stopped him from visiting mole's town like others.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 19:01:55 GMT
I hated the guy! When he was hanged I thought "finally!"
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Post by Marv on Aug 20, 2018 17:38:01 GMT
I liked Ser Allister...he felt like a man that had principles and had gone through a lot. He was bitter and angry but I think he did believe he had the best interest of the Watch at heart.
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 20, 2018 18:28:38 GMT
I liked Ser Allister...he felt like a man that had principles and had gone through a lot. He was bitter and angry but I think he did believe he had the best interest of the Watch at heart. Interesting opinion. Not seen many people appreciate him. Though I know you are generally more empathetic with most characters. |
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