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Post by summers8 on Aug 19, 2018 15:06:51 GMT
So I think we can put to rest Disney's mcu bias debate. mcu has 20 movies, now I want to ask real and honest comic fans to give me the rt scores if Fox, Sony or Warner brothers had released these exact movies.
Iron Man 2= 52% rotten
Iron Man 3= 44% rotten
Thor 2 = 39% rotten
thor 3 =19% rotten
Age of Ultron= 42% rotten
GOTG 2 = 29% rotten
Ant Man= 46% rotten
Ant Man 2 =41% rotten
GOTG 1 = 59% rotten
Infinity War =57% rotten
Hulk = 57% rotten
Spiderman Homecoming = 56% rotten
Capitan America 1 =50% rotten
The only actual MCU movies that will manage a fresh score if they were released by fox or wb and will be in the 60-79% range since in the real world of film making generic movies, with lots of cgi and little depth don't get up to 80%
civil war dr strange
winter solider (obviously) avengers Thor 1 Black Panther
I am not too sure about Iron Man 1 due to the sheer basicness of the plot but RDJ gives a stellar comeback performance I cannot ignore. I can almost say the same for Hulk with Ed Norton but the 3rd arc of Hulk, the CGI and explosions was beyond unforgivable.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 19, 2018 15:13:50 GMT
Everything from the first Phase would be rotten save IM1 and Avengers. When a lot of the Phase 2 garbage started getting mid-90s scores, that's when it became obvious that Disney was paying critics.
They applied everything they learned about how dumb McMarvel fans are to the Star Wars franchise and made a quick, cool $2b off The Force Awakens. Then they tried it again with Last Jedi, but this time we were ready for 'em.
Too bad the MCU sheeple are so cowed and stupid. They could('ve) be(en) valuable allies in the battle against Kathleen Kennedy.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 19, 2018 15:18:56 GMT
Everything from the first Phase would be rotten save IM1 and Avengers. When a lot of the Phase 2 garbage started getting mid-90s scores, that's when it became obvious that Disney was paying critics. They applied everything they learned about how dumb McMarvel fans are to the Star Wars franchise and made a quick, cool $2b off The Force Awakens. Then they tried it again with Last Jedi, but this time we were ready for 'em. Too bad the MCU sheeple are so cowed and stupid. They could('ve) be(en) valuable allies in the battle against Kathleen Kennedy. True.
imagine if WB or Fox pulled a Mandarin or a thor jokenock or a GOTG dance off or a Loltron? it will get the same score as batman and robin.
Funny that Xmen and DC only get high scores on rt when their movies have great story telling, very serious and are grounded. we see the proof in X2, LOGAN, Batman Begins, TDK to name a few.
Funny also Xmen and DC will get low score and get mocked publicly for bad cgi aka xmen origins and justice league meanwhile black panther will get a pass for the same bad cgi. LOL.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 19, 2018 15:32:11 GMT
Everything from the first Phase would be rotten save IM1 and Avengers. When a lot of the Phase 2 garbage started getting mid-90s scores, that's when it became obvious that Disney was paying critics. They applied everything they learned about how dumb McMarvel fans are to the Star Wars franchise and made a quick, cool $2b off The Force Awakens. Then they tried it again with Last Jedi, but this time we were ready for 'em. Too bad the MCU sheeple are so cowed and stupid. They could('ve) be(en) valuable allies in the battle against Kathleen Kennedy. True.
imagine if WB or Fox pulled a Mandarin or a thor jokenock or a GOTG dance off or a Loltron? it will get the same score as batman and robin.
Funny that Xmen and DC only get high scores on rt when their movies have great story telling, very serious and are grounded. we see the proof in X2, LOGAN, Batman Begins, TDK to name a few.
Funny also Xmen and DC will get low score and get mocked publicly for bad cgi aka xmen origins and justice league meanwhile black panther will get a pass for the same bad cgi. LOL.
I know. And these throwaway turd movies like Ant Mang and Black fucking Panther -- which itself is the quintessence of mediocrity and what's cringe about the left encapsulated in one movie -- and whatever else are getting rave reviews. It would be mind-boggling except it's plainly obvious. As George Carlin once said: "the table is tilted; the game is rigged."
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 19, 2018 15:47:58 GMT
Don't you mean "would be"?
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Post by hobowar on Aug 19, 2018 15:58:14 GMT
Ultron: You want to protect the world, but you don't want it to change. How is humanity saved if it's not allowed to... evolve?
Natasha: In the red room, where I was trained... where I was raised... they have a graduation ceremony. They sterilise you. It's efficient. One less thing to worry about. The one thing that might matter more than a mission. Makes everything easier. Even killing. You still think you're the only monster on the team?
Ultron: You know what's in that cradle? The power to make real change, and that terrorfies you doesn't it.
Captain America: Ultron thinks we're monsters, that we're what's wrong with the world. This isn't just about beating him, it's about whether he's right.
Vision: Maybe I am a monster. I don't think I'd know if I were one. I'm not what you are, and not what you intended. So, there may be no way to make you trust me. But we need to go."
Tony Stark: We're mad scientists. We're monsters buddy, and we've got to own it.
Vision: A thing isn't beautiful because it lasts.
Black Widow: Nothing lasts forever. Nick Fury: Trouble, Miss Romanoff. No matter who wins or loses, trouble always comes around.
I'd say there was more character and thematic depth here than in any in the Bryan Singer or Zack Snyder abominations, but it really is just my opinion.
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Post by charzhino on Aug 19, 2018 16:17:35 GMT
Ultron: You want to protect the world, but you don't want it to change. How is humanity saved if it's not allowed to... evolve?Ultron: You know what's in that cradle? The power to make real change, and that terrorfies you doesn't it. Captain America: Ultron thinks we're monsters, that we're what's wrong with the world. This isn't just about beating him, it's about whether he's right.Vision: Maybe I am a monster. I don't think I'd know if I were one. I'm not what you are, and not what you intended. So, there may be no way to make you trust me. But we need to go." Tony Stark: We're mad scientists. We're monsters buddy, and we've got to own it. Black Widow: Nothing lasts forever.Nick Fury: Trouble, Miss Romanoff. No matter who wins or loses, trouble always comes around. I'd say there was more character and thematic depth here than in any in the Bryan Singer abominations, but it really is just my opinion. Those ultron quotes are garbage. Nothing more than superficial drivel that doesnt lead to anything
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Aug 19, 2018 16:49:19 GMT
Dude, you're a broken record right now, just showing how upset and jealous you are right now of the MCU's success. That's all you're doing. You want to really get into an actual discussion of what you don't like with a specific Marvel film, and have a reasonable discussion, that's fine. But when you group them all together into one argument against them, you're just jealous
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 19, 2018 16:59:42 GMT
Ultron: You want to protect the world, but you don't want it to change. How is humanity saved if it's not allowed to... evolve?Ultron: You know what's in that cradle? The power to make real change, and that terrorfies you doesn't it. Captain America: Ultron thinks we're monsters, that we're what's wrong with the world. This isn't just about beating him, it's about whether he's right.Vision: Maybe I am a monster. I don't think I'd know if I were one. I'm not what you are, and not what you intended. So, there may be no way to make you trust me. But we need to go." Tony Stark: We're mad scientists. We're monsters buddy, and we've got to own it. Black Widow: Nothing lasts forever.Nick Fury: Trouble, Miss Romanoff. No matter who wins or loses, trouble always comes around. I'd say there was more character and thematic depth here than in any in the Bryan Singer abominations, but it really is just my opinion. Those ultron quotes are garbage. Nothing more than superficial drivel that doesnt lead to anything true that, but this is still Shakespeare vis-a-vis Gunn's lowbrow penis, turd & nipples ruminations. That being said, Age of Ultron is the poor man's Isaac Asimov.
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Post by dazz on Aug 19, 2018 17:04:17 GMT
I love the utter idiocy of this thread, what would the actual RT scores be for the MCU if Disney weren't paying critics? then list's the 2 films released when Disney had nothing to do with Marvel...fucking plank.
That and the inability to understand what the RT score actually represents, 100 out of 100 people can think a film is a decent but nothing special movie or a 60% that equals a RT score of 100% because everyone says it's "good" and ranked it 6 out of 10 or better, conversely 59 out of 100 people can rate a film 10/10 and the 41 others rate it 5.5/10 that translates into a 59% score or rotten rating on RT despite the majority of people saying it's a perfect film.
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 19, 2018 17:15:18 GMT
IM1, IM2, Thor and Hulk were never released by Disney you dumbass.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 19, 2018 17:52:36 GMT
best thing about the replies. none so far has said the rt score will remain unchanged. says a lot. thank goodness I was smart enough to listen to martin scoresese how how idiotic rt really is.
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 19, 2018 17:54:00 GMT
best thing about the replies. none so far has said the rt score will remain unchanged. says a lot. thank goodness I was smart enough to listen to martin scoresese how how idiotic rt really is. The RT scores will remain completely unchanged.
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Post by kanekikun on Aug 19, 2018 18:49:45 GMT
Ultron: You want to protect the world, but you don't want it to change. How is humanity saved if it's not allowed to... evolve?Ultron: You know what's in that cradle? The power to make real change, and that terrorfies you doesn't it. Captain America: Ultron thinks we're monsters, that we're what's wrong with the world. This isn't just about beating him, it's about whether he's right.Vision: Maybe I am a monster. I don't think I'd know if I were one. I'm not what you are, and not what you intended. So, there may be no way to make you trust me. But we need to go." Tony Stark: We're mad scientists. We're monsters buddy, and we've got to own it. Black Widow: Nothing lasts forever.Nick Fury: Trouble, Miss Romanoff. No matter who wins or loses, trouble always comes around. I'd say there was more character and thematic depth here than in any in the Bryan Singer abominations, but it really is just my opinion. Those ultron quotes are garbage. Nothing more than superficial drivel that doesnt lead to anything how? that stuff is better than any x dialog.
the mcu movies get good ratings because theyre good and do stuff wb and fox are too scared to do.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 19, 2018 19:32:29 GMT
Those ultron quotes are garbage. Nothing more than superficial drivel that doesnt lead to anything how? that stuff is better than any x dialog.
the mcu movies get good ratings because theyre good and do stuff wb and fox are too scared to do.
Nah, Disney pays critics.
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Post by summers8 on Aug 19, 2018 19:40:36 GMT
best thing about the replies. none so far has said the rt score will remain unchanged. says a lot. thank goodness I was smart enough to listen to martin scoresese how how idiotic rt really is. The RT scores will remain completely unchanged.
LMAO. hahahahaha.
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Post by kanekikun on Aug 19, 2018 19:41:55 GMT
the rt scores stay unchanged.
and scorcese is wrong too, because all rt does is take reviewsa nd compile them in one place. it doesn't make anything.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 19, 2018 19:56:17 GMT
the rt scores stay unchanged. and scorcese is wrong too, because all rt does is take reviewsa nd compile them in one place. it doesn't make anything. Nah, it makes things.
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Post by hobowar on Aug 19, 2018 20:17:26 GMT
Ultron: You want to protect the world, but you don't want it to change. How is humanity saved if it's not allowed to... evolve?Ultron: You know what's in that cradle? The power to make real change, and that terrorfies you doesn't it. Captain America: Ultron thinks we're monsters, that we're what's wrong with the world. This isn't just about beating him, it's about whether he's right.Vision: Maybe I am a monster. I don't think I'd know if I were one. I'm not what you are, and not what you intended. So, there may be no way to make you trust me. But we need to go." Tony Stark: We're mad scientists. We're monsters buddy, and we've got to own it. Black Widow: Nothing lasts forever.Nick Fury: Trouble, Miss Romanoff. No matter who wins or loses, trouble always comes around. I'd say there was more character and thematic depth here than in any in the Bryan Singer abominations, but it really is just my opinion. Those ultron quotes are garbage. Nothing more than superficial drivel that doesnt lead to anything You can say anything is superficial. Could you tell me how those quotes are superficial or how his actions didn't sync up with what he was saying? Ultron: You want to protect the world, but you don't want it to change. How is humanity saved if it's not allowed to evolve? It's no coincidence that Ultron interrupted a party to say this. Earths Mightiest Heroes were celebrating the retrieval of Loki's sceptre while war and crime was still happening all over the world. Ultron saw this and was sickened by it. He wanted humanity to evolve morally past the point of needing saviour figures like the Avengers.
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Post by hobowar on Aug 19, 2018 20:22:01 GMT
Those ultron quotes are garbage. Nothing more than superficial drivel that doesnt lead to anything how? that stuff is better than any x dialog.
the mcu movies get good ratings because theyre good and do stuff wb and fox are too scared to do.
You sir... are correct.
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