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Post by scabab on Aug 21, 2018 2:06:50 GMT
uk.ign.com/articles/2018/08/20/why-chris-hemsworth-doesnt-like-thor-the-dark-worldSpeaking to GQ, Hemsworth briefly touched on what didn't work in The Dark World, saying the 2013 movie didn't quite take enough risks and felt a bit too "familiar" as a result. “The first one is good, the second one is meh,” Hemsworth said. “What masculinity was, the classic archetype—it just all starts to feel very familiar. I was so aware that we were right on the edge.”
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Post by hobowar on Aug 21, 2018 2:29:53 GMT
Well at least he got to do Ragnarok. He seemed to be enjoying himself far more in that one, plus that ugly bitch, Kat Dennings wasn't there.
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 21, 2018 2:46:14 GMT
I mean, TDW wasn't the greatest MCU movie, but it was quite a lot better than most of Hemsworth's other movies outside the MCU.
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Post by darkpast on Aug 21, 2018 3:02:07 GMT
i agree
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Post by thenewnexus on Aug 21, 2018 4:00:37 GMT
So he likes campy movies instead? The first two had potienal and seemed serious at times. Shitnerok seems like a parody and is missing the best character Darcy
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 21, 2018 4:02:43 GMT
uk.ign.com/articles/2018/08/20/why-chris-hemsworth-doesnt-like-thor-the-dark-worldSpeaking to GQ, Hemsworth briefly touched on what didn't work in The Dark World, saying the 2013 movie didn't quite take enough risks and felt a bit too "familiar" as a result. “The first one is good, the second one is meh,” Hemsworth said. “What masculinity was, the classic archetype—it just all starts to feel very familiar. I was so aware that we were right on the edge.” It's Kevin Feige's fault. Feige refused to give Patty Jenkins the creative freedom to make a good Thor 2 movie. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 21, 2018 4:47:25 GMT
So he likes campy movies instead? The first two had potienal and seemed serious at times. Shitnerok seems like a parody and is missing the best character Darcy He said the first movie was good, Thor: The Dark World was just "meh". Ragnarok was the best reviewed film and made the most profit so... Darcy isn't a good character, you've admitted there's nothing special about her beyond being played by Kat Dennings. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 21, 2018 4:48:21 GMT
uk.ign.com/articles/2018/08/20/why-chris-hemsworth-doesnt-like-thor-the-dark-worldSpeaking to GQ, Hemsworth briefly touched on what didn't work in The Dark World, saying the 2013 movie didn't quite take enough risks and felt a bit too "familiar" as a result. “The first one is good, the second one is meh,” Hemsworth said. “What masculinity was, the classic archetype—it just all starts to feel very familiar. I was so aware that we were right on the edge.” It's Kevin Feige's fault. Feige refused to give Patty Jenkins the creative freedom to make a good Thor 2 movie. Because filmmakers exiting projects because of creative differences is such a rare occurrence in the industry - actually it happens more often than you think, a LOT more. |
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Post by thenewnexus on Aug 21, 2018 5:56:11 GMT
So he likes campy movies instead? The first two had potienal and seemed serious at times. Shitnerok seems like a parody and is missing the best character Darcy He said the first movie was good, Thor: The Dark World was just "meh". Ragnarok was the best reviewed film and made the most profit so... Darcy isn't a good character, you've admitted there's nothing special about her beyond being played by Kat Dennings. Just cause it made money does not make it good. I said Kat playing her is onr of the reasons why Darcy is great |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 21, 2018 6:01:01 GMT
He said the first movie was good, Thor: The Dark World was just "meh". Ragnarok was the best reviewed film and made the most profit so... Darcy isn't a good character, you've admitted there's nothing special about her beyond being played by Kat Dennings. Just cause it made money does not make it good. I said Kat playing her is onr of the reasons why Darcy is great A lot of that profit came as a result from positive word of the mouth, originated by most professional film critics who called it a fairly good product. Had it been "shitnerok" as you claim it would've made far less and word of the mouth wouldn't have been any good, face it bud - you're in the minority when you call Ragnarok the worst of the three or among the worst of the MCU period. So what are those other reasons? You've never stated any beyond "she's played by Kat Dennings", if you can't name any then she isn't a very good character. |
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Post by charzhino on Aug 21, 2018 7:59:15 GMT
So basically hes ashamed of how Thor actually talks and acts like from the comics, his hyper masculinity and prefers Ragnarok where they desecrated Norse mythology and made a parody of the son of Odin.
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Post by Power Ranger on Aug 21, 2018 8:04:40 GMT
It’s not it’s perspective of masculinity which makes it so bad, Chris. How dumb is this guy, to think that subverting classic masculine stereotypes is the only way to make a good Thor film?
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 21, 2018 9:18:06 GMT
I basically agree with him, but their solution was a cop out that made it worse - Fragglerock created a mess in terms of storytelling, characters and theme continuity.
The best defense is that Marvel perfectly knew that they could at best create a poor man's LotR or Stargate and thus gave their audience what they really want: CGI clobber action, pubescent jokes and licensed pop music a la Guardians. But that's not how you create masterworks, these require risk taking.
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Post by charzhino on Aug 21, 2018 9:24:30 GMT
It’s not it’s perspective of masculinity which makes it so bad, Chris. How dumb is this guy, to think that subverting classic masculine stereotypes is the only way to make a good Thor film? They turned Thor into a soy boy, getting rid of his manly long locks and making him a CUCK to Tessa Thompsons Valkiriy. Chris Hemsworth must have been brainwashed and injected with oestrogen when he did the Ghostbusters 2016 movie. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Aug 21, 2018 11:48:04 GMT
My man!
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 21, 2018 12:08:54 GMT
Who does?
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Post by mog1138 on Aug 21, 2018 12:22:50 GMT
It's Kevin Feige's fault. Feige refused to give Patty Jenkins the creative freedom to make a good Thor 2 movie. Because filmmakers exiting projects because of creative differences is such a rare occurrence in the industry - actually it happens more often than you think, a LOT more. Plus this was still when Perlmutter was still in charge and Feige still had to deal with the Marvel Creative Comittee so it’s definitely not just him. |
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Post by politicidal on Aug 21, 2018 12:44:25 GMT
I liked the increased fantasy elements better and seeing more of Loki is always cool. But Malekith is arguably the worst villain in the MCU (which is saying something) and one of the worst comic book movie villains ever. Also the film vastly overestimated how much audiences care about Jane Foster who is probably the least interesting love interest in the MCU.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Aug 21, 2018 15:20:30 GMT
I basically agree with him, but their solution was a cop out that made it worse - Fragglerock created a mess in terms of storytelling, characters and theme continuity. The best defense is that Marvel perfectly knew that they could at best create a poor man's LotR or Stargate and thus gave their audience what they really want: CGI clobber action, pubescent jokes and licensed pop music a la Guardians. But that's not how you create masterworks, these require risk taking. You just described why they couldn't do a LoTR-like movie, or even a Game of Thrones one, because it'd just be a poor man's version of it and it would be noticable and would definitely be compared. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 21, 2018 15:23:43 GMT
Because filmmakers exiting projects because of creative differences is such a rare occurrence in the industry - actually it happens more often than you think, a LOT more. Plus this was still when Perlmutter was still in charge and Feige still had to deal with the Marvel Creative Comittee so it’s definitely not just him. Pretty much, the sooner Perlmutter is gone for good the better. |
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