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Post by bobbydpacino on Aug 22, 2018 4:49:40 GMT
I think the film fails to convincingly convey the authenticity of a period piece. It was embarrassingly obvious, like for example the token historic vehicles used in street scenes. I mean every vehicle was a historically preserved perfect shiny Ford Pinto or Chevy Nova, and it was obvious these were historic vehicles garage-kept and waxed regularly. That's not what they looked like in 1971. They were dirty just like everything else. And the props were obvious and blatant, like for example the "NIXON AGNEW' poster in the interior of a Klansman's home. Most important though was the sense of believability was vacant and missing, and yes I'm well aware it's "based on a true story." But that means nothing in the world of filmmaking. and Spike Lee, who was once a great filmmaker, knows that. The director needs to make magic. I just feel Lee didn't do that here, and in fact didn't come close. It's worth mentioning however, the lead actor John David Washington is fascinating. He has his own individual charisma and magnetism, which he clearly inherited from his father but it comes out in a new and unique way. Really the only saving grace fora real disappointment of a film.
The inner torment Adam Driver's character supposedly is going through over his Judaism was revolting and not at all believable. It was a reach for Adam Driver and even more of a reach for Spike Lee, who has a history of not understanding American Jews and caricaturing them in derogatory fashion in his films. It needs to be mentioned because in the film it is the lynchpin connecting the suffering of Blacks with Jews, which is, as the film tries, the supposedly common ground the two lead actors share. But it's just not believable. The struggle of Jewish people is utterly lost on Spike Lee, and this blind spot can be seen quite clearly & painfully in "BlacKkKlansman." It's bad acting and badly rendered. Only John David Washington made it bearable but even he could not prevent me from walking out early.
Also the soundtrack- was VERY VERY Tarantino with a capital TARANTINO. Without being redundant, it was embarrassingly derivative of Tarantino. The dancing scene with the Cornelius Brothers and the lead actress with her 1970 gold oval tinted glasses felt staged and unnatural. I'm a huge Cornelius Brothers fan and a huge Looking Glass fan too, so when "Brandy" played I felt it was gratuitous. Easy. And again, very Quentin Tarantino, and not in a kind of sort of complimentary influential way- I'm talking direct theft.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 22, 2018 14:30:38 GMT
Worst. Movie. Ever then?
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Post by Nora on Aug 22, 2018 21:48:11 GMT
hmm, one of my trusted colleagues reported a similar disappointment today. i am seeing it this weekend and am still excited about it but i do see a lot of people around me badmouthing it... so i gues ill go in skeptical.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 22, 2018 21:57:10 GMT
hmm, one of my trusted colleagues reported a similar disappointment today. i am seeing it this weekend and am still excited about it but i do see a lot of people around me badmouthing it... so i gues ill go in skeptical. As advertised, it is a Spike Lee joint and people either like him or hate him. As for me, I only saw INSIDE MAN (2006) and really liked it.
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Post by Nora on Aug 22, 2018 22:00:14 GMT
hmm, one of my trusted colleagues reported a similar disappointment today. i am seeing it this weekend and am still excited about it but i do see a lot of people around me badmouthing it... so i gues ill go in skeptical. As advertised, it is a Spike Lee joint and people either like him or hate him. As for me, I only saw INSIDE MAN (2006) and really liked it. oh i loved the inside man. but there is certainly more movies of his worth checking out. the older the better i feel. for sure Do the right thing is very good.
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Post by amyghost on Aug 22, 2018 22:20:57 GMT
I like Lee, but he's had his share of clunkers and he's often as not not great at keeping his own sometimes embarrassingly evident racial discontents in check as a director. The time period of the film tempts me to see it (it'll be something of a nostalgia trip, in a manner of speaking), but I'm honestly not expecting much from this one.
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Post by syafiqjabar on Aug 24, 2018 3:02:48 GMT
Can you believe that someone wants Black Panther to get nominated for Best Film when BlackKklansman exists?
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Post by politicidal on Aug 24, 2018 15:28:24 GMT
Can you believe that someone wants Black Panther to get nominated for Best Film when BlackKklansman exists? Well that’s why the Popular Film category was created..
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Post by kleinreturns on Aug 26, 2018 3:43:53 GMT
This movie is Awesome!!!
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Post by syafiqjabar on Aug 26, 2018 13:45:32 GMT
Can you believe that someone wants Black Panther to get nominated for Best Film when BlackKklansman exists? Well that’s why the Popular Film category was created.. Kevin Feige apparently does not care.
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Post by Nora on Aug 26, 2018 18:58:21 GMT
i agree it felt derivative of tarantino but i liked the movie a lot, overall.
cannot judge on how well the retro part was done, as in reflecting reality, but overall it kept me very interested throughout the entire movie and made me sympathize with the characters and take interest in their story. i felt like the biggest "harm" that was done to this movie was the trailer which marketed it as comedy, while this was not a comedy really and had very little humor in it.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Mar 6, 2019 18:35:38 GMT
I wasn't a fan. It was better than most recent Spike films, but that's not saying much.
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Post by kingslayer on Mar 6, 2019 22:54:43 GMT
I would have enjoyed it a lot more if Spike Lee had been even a little bit subtle in his Trump bashing and stretching reality to try and connect the time period of the movie with 2018. Made it really hard to enjoy when being hit with such absurd propaganda. I actually enjoyed a lot of the film without it though I admit some disappointment that that the title of the film didn't match what I got. I figured a black man somehow infilitrated the KKK but really it was Adam Driver a Jewish man who took the real risks. Jewkkklansman doesn't flow though i guess.
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Post by kingslayer on Mar 7, 2019 1:05:59 GMT
I would have enjoyed it a lot more if Spike Lee had been even a little bit subtle in his Trump bashing and stretching reality to try and connect the time period of the movie with 2018. Made it really hard to enjoy when being hit with such absurd propaganda. I actually enjoyed a lot of the film without it though I admit some disappointment that that the title of the film didn't match what I got. I figured a black man somehow infilitrated the KKK but really it was Adam Driver a Jewish man who took the real risks. Jewkkklansman doesn't flow though i guess. Good points! Showing what was then and still is now to a certain extent, was still in context with the films theme, but he might have pushed a bit too hard with the Trump bashing at the end. He should have left him out of the picture.
This was showing way too much bias and even a lack of levelheadedness. People need to be left autonomous regarding their own minds and the consequences that hate leaves in its wake, especially when depicted in a film.
David Duke was supporting Nixon for president and quoted his "make america great again" slogan, I mean come on, could he have been any more on the nose? The conclusion... Charlottesville, just had me rolling my eyes at the stupid comparison. Its getting more common to have a historical movie come out and then try to claim that there is a parallel to today. Kathryn Bigelow did that in Detroit, as if there is ANY similarity to modern times as it was in the 1970s. Hard to take anything they say seriously.
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Post by RobotTheLiving on Mar 7, 2019 22:42:51 GMT
The two main performances from John David Washington and Adam Driver carry the Film. The message get heavy-handed at times but that's pretty much how Spike Lee operates. Overall an 8.5/10 for me.
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Post by Caesium137 on Mar 8, 2019 8:36:49 GMT
It was entertaining in parts but boring in others. Probably a 7/10 imo. Agree that Adam Driver and the whole infiltrating the kKk was the best thing about the plot.
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Post by Vits on Mar 8, 2019 20:09:12 GMT
9/10
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Post by RobotTheLiving on Mar 9, 2019 6:17:00 GMT
The two main performances from John David Washington and Adam Driver carry the Film. The message get heavy-handed at times but that's pretty much how Spike Lee operates. Overall an 8.5/10 for me. It still had a powerful presentation regarding the theme and was well handled even with a bit of a sledgehammer approach. I guess when dealing with this strong subject matter, it is difficult to dress it up in cotton wool and make an impact. It really isn't to be taken lightly.
The only gravy I really have, as already discussed earlier on in the thread, is that the parallels being taken by Lee at the climax by comparing an era of 40yrs gone by to contemporary times, is just distorted leftist propaganda. It is not in the same context. Yeah, the very end with the modern stuff is the only thing that didn't really jive with me. I completely agree.
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Post by syafiqjabar on Mar 11, 2019 7:26:26 GMT
The ending is basically Lee reminding us that it's not even remotely over. Don't celebrate just yet.
You know from that that a black filmmaker made this.
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