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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Aug 25, 2018 14:51:40 GMT
They are consistent at giving us really good character moments no matter how bad or boring the film is. It's one of the reasons why even the bad ones are considered just fine or mediocre.
Dark World is as bland as it comes with it's story, but the stuff with Frigga is really good as I really like Rene Russo. And that's really a testament to how great they are with their casting choices. And it's ashamed too, because some of these moments would be really great in a better film. Frigga always got shortchanged in the Thor films and really went out in an anti-climactic way.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 25, 2018 17:05:17 GMT
I feel like Loki tends to steal every scene he's in.
Hell, he was nearly the best thing about Infinity War, and he was -- uh, not featured in much of the film.
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Post by hobowar on Aug 27, 2018 18:17:13 GMT
Yep this is the complete opposite of how DC handles their characters. Everything that happened in Batman v Superman happened because Zack Snyder thought it was "badass" and didn't care how it would make the characters come across.
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Post by charzhino on Aug 27, 2018 18:27:43 GMT
Nothing extraordinary about those. The bad DC and Xmen films also have great character moments.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Aug 27, 2018 21:33:11 GMT
Nothing extraordinary about those. The bad DC and Xmen films also have great character moments. Well by moments, I'm not talking individual action scenes or anything like that. I'm talking about moments of dialogue that progresses or develops characters. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 27, 2018 21:33:22 GMT
Yep this is the complete opposite of how DC handles their characters. Everything that happened in Batman v Superman happened because Zack Snyder thought it was "badass" and didn't care how it would make the characters come across. it could have been worse, instead of becoming allies because of their mommy issues, they could have started senselessly clobbering each other, or shooting each other because of them a la " I don't care, he killed my mommy...and squished my Walkman". Seems DC dodged two bullets not hiring hacks Whedon and Gunn...oh wait |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 27, 2018 21:41:41 GMT
Yep this is the complete opposite of how DC handles their characters. Everything that happened in Batman v Superman happened because Zack Snyder thought it was "badass" and didn't care how it would make the characters come across. it could have been worse, instead of becoming allies because of their mommy issues, they could have started senselessly clobbering each other, or shooting each other because of them a la " I don't care, he killed my mommy...and squished my Walkman". Seems DC dodged two bullets not hiring hacks Whedon and Gunn...oh wait How would you honestly react if a loved one gave you a gift to remember them by before their passing that you held onto very tightly for years and years only to have it destroyed by another who fooled you into think they were pure-hearted? |
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Aug 27, 2018 21:46:06 GMT
Yep this is the complete opposite of how DC handles their characters. Everything that happened in Batman v Superman happened because Zack Snyder thought it was "badass" and didn't care how it would make the characters come across. it could have been worse, instead of becoming allies because of their mommy issues, they could have started senselessly clobbering each other, or shooting each other because of them a la " I don't care, he killed my mommy...and squished my Walkman". Seems DC dodged two bullets not hiring hacks Whedon and Gunn...oh wait That's a legitimate motivation and there's context and substance behind it. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 27, 2018 21:49:30 GMT
yes, Loki was built up as an interesting character, like in mythology he was set up to take over the throne and initiate the final battle, Ragnarök.
What a pity they decided to undo all that in the next film with a few stupid jokes and by reducing Loki to Thors bumbling sidekick without ambitions so not to steal Thors's spotlight, eg when becoming a comedian or by crying like a girl when getting a haircut. Same with Jane or Odin. Ragnarök, thy name is Fragglerock.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Aug 27, 2018 21:50:36 GMT
In Dark World, best moment is when Stellan Skarsgard sees the birds disappear tosses his drugs away, and says
There is nothing more reassuring than realizing that the world is crazier than you are.
I also like the Thor on the subway scene.
The movie was still disappointing.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Aug 27, 2018 21:56:09 GMT
yes, Loki was built up as an interesting character, like in mythology he was set up to take over the throne and initiate the final battle, Ragnarök. What a pity they decided to undo all that in the next film with a few stupid jokes and by reducing Loki to Thors bumbling sidekick without ambitions so not to steal Thors's spotlight, eg when becoming a comedian or by crying like a girl when getting a haircut. Same with Jane or Odin. Ragnarök, thy name is Fragglerock. Except they didn't undo anything with Loki. Just because there's humor in it, doesn't mean it undermines anything. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 27, 2018 21:57:18 GMT
it could have been worse, instead of becoming allies because of their mommy issues, they could have started senselessly clobbering each other, or shooting each other because of them a la " I don't care, he killed my mommy...and squished my Walkman". Seems DC dodged two bullets not hiring hacks Whedon and Gunn...oh wait How would you honestly react if a loved one gave you a gift to remember them by before their passing that you held onto very tightly for years and years only to have it destroyed by another who fooled you into think they were pure-hearted? First, I would not immediately draw my gun and shoot them several times. Second, I would not fire rocket at my allies in a critical situation because of a brainwashed guy who was a victim himself. But that's just me. |
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Post by hobowar on Aug 27, 2018 22:00:58 GMT
Yep this is the complete opposite of how DC handles their characters. Everything that happened in Batman v Superman happened because Zack Snyder thought it was "badass" and didn't care how it would make the characters come across. it could have been worse, instead of becoming allies because of their mommy issues, they could have started senselessly clobbering each other, or shooting each other because of them a la " I don't care, he killed my mommy...and squished my Walkman". Seems DC dodged two bullets not hiring hacks Whedon and Gunn... oh waitAnyday now, dickhead. |
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Post by hobowar on Aug 27, 2018 22:17:13 GMT
it could have been worse, instead of becoming allies because of their mommy issues, they could have started senselessly clobbering each other, or shooting each other because of them a la " I don't care, he killed my mommy...and squished my Walkman". Seems DC dodged two bullets not hiring hacks Whedon and Gunn...oh wait That's a legitimate motivation and there's context and substance behind it. Words DC fans can't seem to wrap their head around. |
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Post by hobowar on Aug 28, 2018 0:29:47 GMT
Yep this is the complete opposite of how DC handles their characters. Everything that happened in Batman v Superman happened because Zack Snyder thought it was "badass" and didn't care how it would make the characters come across. instead of becoming allies because of their mommy issues, they could have started senselessly clobbering each other, or shooting each other because of them a la " I don't care, he killed my mommy...and squished my Walkman". Seems DC dodged two bullets not hiring hacks Whedon and Gunn...oh wait No it couldn't. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 28, 2018 1:25:45 GMT
How would you honestly react if a loved one gave you a gift to remember them by before their passing that you held onto very tightly for years and years only to have it destroyed by another who fooled you into think they were pure-hearted? First, I would not immediately draw my gun and shoot them several times. Second, I would not fire rocket at my allies in a critical situation because of a brainwashed guy who was a victim himself. But that's just me. So the concept of a passing loved one having a long term traumatic effect on people is an unrealistic and foolish concept to you? Wow. |
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Post by twothousandonemark on Aug 28, 2018 4:27:00 GMT
Who gives a fcuk about DC. Honestly, stop mentioning them in this forum. When I talk about the NFL, I don't wanna hear from Wigan supporters about who's fans are better.
Age of Ultron remains my fav MCU not least because of its excellent array of character moments. The Avengers unhinged & vulnerable is refreshing, bookended by 2 great action scenes where they deliver the kitchen sink both times.
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Post by hobowar on Aug 28, 2018 7:35:25 GMT
Who gives a fcuk about DC. Honestly, stop mentioning them in this forum. When I talk about the NFL, I don't wanna hear from Wigan supporters about who's fans are better. Age of Ultron remains my fav MCU not least because of its excellent array of character moments. The Avengers unhinged & vulnerable is refreshing, bookended by 2 great action scenes where they deliver the kitchen sink both times. Batman delivered the kitchen sink right to Superman's head. I had to.  |
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Post by summers8 on Aug 28, 2018 11:05:19 GMT
Vision's first appearance in Avengers 2
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