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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 20:29:59 GMT
People are still talking about this show that's SO five years ago?
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Aug 25, 2018 21:03:03 GMT
Jamie is the one that will sit on the Iron Throne when its all over may i ask why you think that? because i havent seen many signs or foreshadowing for jamie being in power |
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Post by amyghost on Aug 25, 2018 21:13:33 GMT
People are still talking about this show that's SO five years ago? It's like so many of those shows that become insanely popular (lord knows why); by the time the show reaches it's 'big climax', the hype has already run its course some time back and only the diehards are left to care about it. Remember when we waited forever and a day for Scully and Mulder to get it on in The X-Files? They dragged that tease out for so long that, by the time it finally happened, it ended up being one of the most anticlimactic 'climaxes' (pun intended) in television history. |
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 25, 2018 22:19:58 GMT
People are still talking about this show that's SO five years ago? It's like so many of those shows that become insanely popular (lord knows why); by the time the show reaches it's 'big climax', the hype has already run its course some time back and only the diehards are left to care about it. Remember when we waited forever and a day for Scully and Mulder to get it on in The X-Files? They dragged that tease out for so long that, by the time it finally happened, it ended up being one of the most anticlimactic 'climaxes' (pun intended) in television history. I have seen no indication that it is now only cared for by the most die hard fans. If that is the case then perhaps the die hard fan-base in extraordinarily large. For that matter we have had people seeing it for the first time in 2019 who said this is one of the best shows they have seen.
It is not fantasy element that makes this show so appealing. It is inspired from some stories of medieval Europe and study of politics is what makes it so distinct.
This article further states that GOT's popularity has exploded in the most populous continent of Earth in last 2 years. Also even In US the last episode of GOT was seen by more people than any other episode in its history.
(one reason increase in viewership is increased availability but that is not the only reason).
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Aug 26, 2018 0:20:01 GMT
may i ask why you think that? because i havent seen many signs or foreshadowing for jamie being in power Just a thought i had that the one that will sit on the throne is somebody nobody saw coming. Everyone and their dog (cat owners differ) see Cersei dead. Fuckers will be stuck with her. Serves them right. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Aug 26, 2018 0:28:41 GMT
Everyone and their dog (cat owners differ) see Cersei dead. Fuckers will be stuck with her. Serves them right. Its just a tv show It's real people expressing real mentalities, dumbass. |
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Post by shinnickneth on Aug 26, 2018 0:33:34 GMT
People are still talking about this show that's SO five years ago? Five years is a drop in the bucket. The first book in the series was published well over 20 years ago. People still talk about it too. |
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Post by amyghost on Aug 26, 2018 3:01:05 GMT
It's like so many of those shows that become insanely popular (lord knows why); by the time the show reaches it's 'big climax', the hype has already run its course some time back and only the diehards are left to care about it. Remember when we waited forever and a day for Scully and Mulder to get it on in The X-Files? They dragged that tease out for so long that, by the time it finally happened, it ended up being one of the most anticlimactic 'climaxes' (pun intended) in television history. I have seen no indication that it is now only cared for by the most die hard fans. If that is the case then perhaps the die hard fan-base in extraordinarily large. For that matter we have had people seeing it for the first time in 2019 who said this is one of the best shows they have seen.
It is not fantasy element that makes this show so appealing. It is inspired from some stories of medieval Europe and study of politics is what makes it so distinct.
This article further states that GOT's popularity has exploded in the most populous continent of Earth in last 2 years. Also even In US the last episode of GOT was seen by more people than any other episode in its history.
(one reason increase in viewership is increased availability but that is not the only reason).
It's a popular show, no doubt. I know a few people whom I'd never have guessed to be fans of that type of story who are glued to it. Just never really been my cup of tea, lol, and I never could get into shows that went on at that length, with long, long, pauses between seasons and overlong teaser plot points. Part of the reason I ended up finally getting rather switched off on The Sopranos. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Aug 26, 2018 7:43:55 GMT
It's a popular show, no doubt. I know a few people whom I'd never have guessed to be fans of that type of story who are glued to it. Just never really been my cup of tea, lol, and I never could get into shows that went on at that length, with long, long, pauses between seasons and overlong teaser plot points. Part of the reason I ended up finally getting rather switched off on The Sopranos. It is the appeal of seemingly "lifelong" stories drawn along an overarching plan present at the outset. As opposed to episode based shows in which a plot is resolved each time, or series made out of self contained books in which a season covers one plot and the next picks up to start another plot, this is still the same thread going on since the first season towards some sort of resolution. There is no feeling of just getting "more of the same"; people want to see this to the end. Then the main characters are just as typed as necessary to bind viewers and cause them to take party for one of the several sides. They are exaggerated but not completely one-sided and the intricacies this creates are such that much of the discussion is spent on earlier seasons, not on what's left to come. The lasting value of this show is not so much in its story or its characters but in its ability to generate conflicting interpretations which people want to debate. |
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Post by amyghost on Aug 26, 2018 14:23:42 GMT
It's a popular show, no doubt. I know a few people whom I'd never have guessed to be fans of that type of story who are glued to it. Just never really been my cup of tea, lol, and I never could get into shows that went on at that length, with long, long, pauses between seasons and overlong teaser plot points. Part of the reason I ended up finally getting rather switched off on The Sopranos. It is the appeal of seemingly "lifelong" stories drawn along an overarching plan present at the outset. As opposed to episode based shows in which a plot is resolved each time, or series made out of self contained books in which a season covers one plot and the next picks up to start another plot, this is still the same thread going on since the first season towards some sort of resolution. There is no feeling of just getting "more of the same"; people want to see this to the end. Then the main characters are just as typed as necessary to bind viewers and cause them to take party for one of the several sides. They are exaggerated but not completely one-sided and the intricacies this creates are such that much of the discussion is spent on earlier seasons, not on what's left to come. The lasting value of this show is not so much in its story or its characters but in its ability to generate conflicting interpretations which people want to debate. For those who are fans, no doubt this is so. It's the appeal of the ongoing storytelling technique that's ages old. The key point is how much interest one has in the story. I'll admit that, while I enjoy some fantasy/worldbuilding type of fiction, GoT has just never really done it for me. I'm sure the plotline probably holds complexity enough for years worth of conversation among its fans; but, from the outside looking in, a lot of what appears to take place on the show does give the impression of just being 'more of the same'. I don't mean that dismissively (though I guess it's difficult not to sound that way), as I'm well aware that I've avidly followed series that followed the ongoing plotlines format whose material and premise would possibly enough fail to hold the attention or interest of a GoT fan, jut as the show fails to hold mine. Horses for courses, I guess. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Aug 26, 2018 15:06:31 GMT
It is the appeal of seemingly "lifelong" stories drawn along an overarching plan present at the outset. As opposed to episode based shows in which a plot is resolved each time, or series made out of self contained books in which a season covers one plot and the next picks up to start another plot, this is still the same thread going on since the first season towards some sort of resolution. There is no feeling of just getting "more of the same"; people want to see this to the end. Then the main characters are just as typed as necessary to bind viewers and cause them to take party for one of the several sides. They are exaggerated but not completely one-sided and the intricacies this creates are such that much of the discussion is spent on earlier seasons, not on what's left to come. The lasting value of this show is not so much in its story or its characters but in its ability to generate conflicting interpretations which people want to debate. For those who are fans, no doubt this is so. It's the appeal of the ongoing storytelling technique that's ages old. The key point is how much interest one has in the story. I'll admit that, while I enjoy some fantasy/worldbuilding type of fiction, GoT has just never really done it for me. I'm sure the plotline probably holds complexity enough for years worth of conversation among its fans; but, from the outside looking in, a lot of what appears to take place on the show does give the impression of just being 'more of the same'. I don't mean that dismissively (though I guess it's difficult not to sound that way), as I'm well aware that I've avidly followed series that followed the ongoing plotlines format whose material and premise would possibly enough fail to hold the attention or interest of a GoT fan, jut as the show fails to hold mine. Horses for courses, I guess. It's not the fantasy nor even the plot that keep people hooked, but the characters. I suppose this is more the old soap opera trope in this case. In the long run, it doesn't matter so much what they are fighting for but who they are and whom they are going against. At first the plot was everything. I just wanted to know what would happen but slowly stakes became more personal. By the 2nd season I started fearing and hoping for those I liked. It was no longer a story but a world view people were discussing. The engagement becomes a different one. The subjects at hand turn deeper. |
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Post by amyghost on Aug 26, 2018 15:24:27 GMT
For those who are fans, no doubt this is so. It's the appeal of the ongoing storytelling technique that's ages old. The key point is how much interest one has in the story. I'll admit that, while I enjoy some fantasy/worldbuilding type of fiction, GoT has just never really done it for me. I'm sure the plotline probably holds complexity enough for years worth of conversation among its fans; but, from the outside looking in, a lot of what appears to take place on the show does give the impression of just being 'more of the same'. I don't mean that dismissively (though I guess it's difficult not to sound that way), as I'm well aware that I've avidly followed series that followed the ongoing plotlines format whose material and premise would possibly enough fail to hold the attention or interest of a GoT fan, jut as the show fails to hold mine. Horses for courses, I guess. It's not the fantasy nor even the plot that keep people hooked, but the characters. I suppose this is more the old soap opera trope in this case. In the long run, it doesn't matter so much what they are fighting for but who they are and whom they are going against. At first the plot was everything. I just wanted to know what would happen but slowly stakes became more personal. By the 2nd season I started fearing and hoping for those I liked. It was no longer a story but a world view people were discussing. The engagement becomes a different one. The subjects at hand turn deeper. Often enough, it is the characters that hook us into a plot, before the story itself. Not unusual, and even less so in a medium that places strong emphasis on viewer identification with, and approval of, the characters presented. (Pretty much exactly the bait where soap opera places the hook.) But for that to work, it's important that the viewer can become invested in the characters, and frankly, in GoT I find the characters to a man unlikeable and, even worse, humorless. When this coincides with the fact that I don't much care for fantasy allegorizations of real-world political issues (or at least, they have to be presented with a lighter hand than GoT has thus far managed to do), it essentially leaves me with no place to go as far as the show is concerned. I guess I could take a prurient interest in the excessive nudity, but honestly, if I want nudity and sexual content, I can get that elsewhere--and in hardcore porn, I can even get unlikeable and humorless characters to boot, lol. So again, the show just isn't my cuppa, and I confess to being somewhat puzzled by its popularity. But one half of the world will never understand the pleasures of the other half, and I'm willing to concede that one-half of the world (or what sometimes seems like it) find GoT compelling enough on whatever levels to keep coming back again and again, in spite of production longueurs. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 26, 2018 16:43:06 GMT
People are still talking about this show that's SO five years ago? It's like so many of those shows that become insanely popular (lord knows why); by the time the show reaches it's 'big climax', the hype has already run its course some time back and only the diehards are left to care about it. Remember when we waited forever and a day for Scully and Mulder to get it on in The X-Files? They dragged that tease out for so long that, by the time it finally happened, it ended up being one of the most anticlimactic 'climaxes' (pun intended) in television history. Of course, that isn't really even true with this show. The ratings are massive year over year, the buzz is nonstop while it's on, & the hype continues even though the show is a ways off. |
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Aug 26, 2018 21:02:31 GMT
may i ask why you think that? because i havent seen many signs or foreshadowing for jamie being in power Just a thought i had that the one that will sit on the throne is somebody nobody saw coming. true i can see that , for that to happen means cersei tyrion all need to be gone including the targrayens or gendry baratheon ... another person no one seems to think would sit on it is the most obvious one and rightful heir jon snow everyone has buried him some of these GOT youtubers have buried jon and cersei , over and over and im thinking they will make a deal to keep cersei in power in return for his cousin sansa (ex-sister ) |
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Post by yougotastewgoinbaby on Aug 26, 2018 23:22:58 GMT
Wrong. Hotpie will sit on the Iron Throne when all is said and done. It’s obvious.
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