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Post by Nalkarj on Aug 28, 2018 14:14:04 GMT
I’ve recently finished Mark Adams’ excellent Meet Me in Atlantis, a fascinating and eminently fair guide to the search and searchers for the mythological lost city. You can read Adams’ conclusions for yourself—I really recommend the book very highly—but I’m wondering what everyone else here thinks of the story. Also recommended for background research is Tony O’Connell’s atlantipedia.ie, a comprehensive encyclopedia to everything “Atlantological.” N.B.: Belief or skepticism, or a combination of both, about Plato’s Atlantis account is fine—I’m a skeptic about it myself—but please don’t post some ad hominem insult like “you’re an idiot if you believe in Atlantis” or some God-of-the-gaps generality like “we don’t know everything about history/archaeology/geology, so therefore Atlantis must be real!” Thanks.
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Post by MCDemuth on Aug 29, 2018 19:20:55 GMT
Folklore, Myths, Fairy Tales? NOT SO FAST... The city of Troy, was thought to be "legend", until it was "discovered" around 1822. I DO believe that the civilization of "Atlantis" was real... Every day, archaeologists and historians are making incredible discoveries which keep pushing the history of humanity further back in time, and there is evidence to suggest that our ancient ancestors, did in fact had at least some advanced knowledge and technology which was lost over time for various as yet unexplained reasons... What I am skeptical about, is that Atlantis was a Continent, as some people have claimed... Even though some ancient "continents" that have "sunk" such as "Zealandia": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zealandia have recently been discovered... There seems to be no evidence of a lost continent where Plato has claimed that one was supposed to have existed... Either Plato was ( wrong misinterpreted what he was told ) about a Atlantis... or ancient peoples used the term "continent" to describe something else than how we use that term today... Both of these are quite possible... Plenty of examples can be found in our society today, of such things... If I recall correctly, It seems that Plato was not from Atlantis and never visited there... So what he wrote can't be taken literally as 100% accurate, even if what he thought he wrote was true, anyway... Some have speculated that Atlantis... might have been an island or even just a large city, that might have "Sunk" due to either a massive earthquake or volcanic eruption... or possibly "sunk" due to rising sea levels at the end of the last ice age... Again, plenty of evidence to support these beliefs too... Others have speculated that Plato was in fact wrong about the location of Atlantis, and that maybe it lie under the sea near Bermuda, or near the Bimini wall... or perhaps it is under the ice of "Antarctica". Scientists, still can't explain how there are Ancient maps showing Antarctica to be ice free... "Atlantis"? Maybe not. It might have been "Etluntas"!... Continent? Probably just a large volcanic island that didn't rise much out of the sea level at the time... It may not be exactly as Plato described, but I do believe that there was some truth to the origin of his story, and that someday, the remnants of that civilization will be discovered, somewhere on Earth... Earth? I am even more skeptical that Atlantis "Lifted Off" the Earth and flew into space...
But some people have suggested that...
And...IF...the Ancient Alien Theory is ever proven true... Well then, perhaps that might just be true too...
I am highly doubtful... but I am open minded.
Just show me the evidence.
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Post by politicidal on Sept 1, 2018 23:44:56 GMT
Well, it made one of my favorite Disney animated movies so thanks Plato. I think perhaps the legend grew over time from conflation with collective memories of when early societies were destroyed by the great deluge (not the biblical one the Black Sea one).
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Post by hardball on Sept 10, 2018 9:25:08 GMT
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 10, 2018 13:13:35 GMT
hardball, how would that location explain “beyond the pillars of Hercules”?
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Post by hardball on Sept 11, 2018 1:17:47 GMT
hardball , how would that location explain “beyond the pillars of Hercules”? After a cataclysmic event 10,500 or 11,600 years ago - comet, asteroid, ice age - the Atlantean continent sank and the tectonic plates began to move and shift. The Richat may have been beyond the Pillars of Hercules at the time. After the event, it was pushed inland into Africa and is all that remains of the continent. Plato also said Atlantis' main island city - not the continent itself- is 127 stadia. 23.5 km. www.metrum.org/mapping/atlantis.htmIf you measure the Richat in Google Maps from the outer dome it is around 22 km. Plato also said mountains bordered Atlantis to the north, same with the Richat. Atlantis was rich in copper and gold, which are common metals found in Mauritania. One reason why I do not fully support the theory is the lack of physical evidence, i.e. structural remains in the area. Though I suppose if an asteroid, earthquake and tsunami hit, few structures if any will survive.
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Post by MCDemuth on Sept 11, 2018 4:56:59 GMT
The Sahara Desert - A place where hardly anyone ever goes, and most of which has yet to be explored and dug up...
Interestingly, a large percentage of the area around the Great Pyramids in Egypt, also has yet to excavated... And people go there all the time...
And still, NoOne knows, what is UNDER the sand at these locations...
What about the bottom of the sea?... In Jungles?... &...
Buried Under Glaciers?
That really says something...
When we know more about another planet than we do about our own... Historians need to admit that we really don't know shit about our own planet, and they need to be more open minded to new theories and possibilities that may contradict mainstream history and knowledge... And...
It's time to start digging where we have never dug before...
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Post by hi224 on Sept 13, 2018 6:36:29 GMT
makes you wonder.
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Post by MCDemuth on Sept 25, 2018 20:19:03 GMT
Another Article that suggests that Antarctica might have been the location of Atlantis...
Today? NO SHIT!
What about around 10,000 B.C., dumbos?
Cavemen were not capable of making ICE FREE maps... So How?
“beyond the pillars of Hercules” at that time... perhaps?
Ancient Monuments predating the Last Ice Age The End Of The Last Ice Age... The Great Cataclysm... The Great Flood (or FLOODS)... When Atlantis was believe to be destroyed...
IT ALL SEEMS TO FIT!
One Last Thing...
Perhaps it did... Under a sea of "ICE"!
As I said before:
We really need to start looking at what is UNDER all that ICE & SNOW!
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