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Post by Vassaggo on Sept 5, 2018 6:24:26 GMT
But you keep using RT scores when discussing Wonder Woman being a success. WTF? You MCU fans attack me even when I write something positive about MCU. If I went on and on how Rotten Tomatoes said a movie I liked was really great and then discounted/ignored Rotten Tomatoes when it said a movie/tv show I liked wasn't good. JudgeJuryDredd would call me out too. Edit: And by call out I mean point out the discrepancy. I wouldn't put words in his mouth, but he should say I can't have my cake and eat it too. And he would be right.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Sept 5, 2018 6:27:09 GMT
But you keep using RT scores when discussing Wonder Woman being a success. WTF? You MCU fans attack me even when I write something positive about MCU. It's not an attack, it's a statement of fact. You often say critics are biased and not trustworthy, yet they are on the money with Wonder Woman and use it to say that it cannot be criticized as a movie since most loved it.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Sept 5, 2018 6:34:23 GMT
But you keep using RT scores when discussing Wonder Woman being a success. WTF? You MCU fans attack me even when I write something positive about MCU. In what way was he attacking you? He's just pointing out a fact. You keep giving MCU movies 1/10 despite them getting high Rotten Tomatoes scores. Like Black Panther for example, 97/100 critics gave it glowing reviews, but let your bias showed and just flat out gave it a 1/10.
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Post by DC-Fan on Sept 5, 2018 6:40:26 GMT
WTF? You MCU fans attack me even when I write something positive about MCU. Like Black Panther for example, 97/100 critics gave it glowing reviews, but let your bias showed and just flat out gave it a 1/10. Critics gave Black Panther good review because they're afraid of being labeled as "racist" if they give Black Panther an honest and accurate review. And being labeled a "racist" is a career-killer because it's 1 of the 2 worst things that someone can be labeled as. The other is being labeled a "pedophile". Just ask James Gunn. And I wasn't bias. I gave Black Panther an honest and accurate rating since the critics were afraid to do so.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Sept 5, 2018 6:45:23 GMT
Like Black Panther for example, 97/100 critics gave it glowing reviews, but let your bias showed and just flat out gave it a 1/10. Critics gave Black Panther good review because they're afraid of being labeled as "racist" if they give Black Panther an honest and accurate review. Saying that is as easy as saying critics gave Wonder Woman good reviews because they’re afraid of being labeled as “misogynistic” if they give Wonder Woman an honest and accurate review.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Sept 5, 2018 6:48:18 GMT
Like Black Panther for example, 97/100 critics gave it glowing reviews, but let your bias showed and just flat out gave it a 1/10. Critics gave Black Panther good review because they're afraid of being labeled as "racist" if they give Black Panther an honest and accurate review. And being labeled a "racist" is a career-killer because it's 1 of the 2 worst things that someone can be labeled as. The other is being labeled a "pedophile". Just ask James Gunn. And I wasn't bias. I gave Black Panther an honest and accurate rating since the critics were afraid to do so. Erm, no. The critics were the ones who gave it honest and accurate ratings because it deserved them. Despite poor CGI effects, it still had a great story, memorable characters, a great script, some good action sequences (the chase scene in Korea), a powerful message, and a brilliant performance from Michael B. Jordan. Your review was biased because Black Panther was made by Disney, who runs the MCU. If the Black Panther belonged to WB/DC and nothing changed, you would give it a 10/10.
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Post by DC-Fan on Sept 5, 2018 6:50:32 GMT
Critics gave Black Panther good review because they're afraid of being labeled as "racist" if they give Black Panther an honest and accurate review. Saying that is as easy as saying critics gave Wonder Woman good reviews because they’re afraid of being labeled as “misogynistic” if they give Wonder Woman an honest and accurate review. No, because being labeled "sexist" or "misogynistic" isn't as bad a stigma as being labeled "racist" or "pedophile". Just look at the 2008 and 2016 Presidential elections. People who didn't vote for Obama were called "racist". People who didn't vote for Hillary weren't called "sexist" or "misogynistic". That's why Trump can talk about "grabbing pussy" and still win the election. There's nothing as bad as being labeled a "racist" or "pedophile". Those are automatic career-killers. Just ask James Gunn.
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Post by DC-Fan on Sept 5, 2018 6:53:07 GMT
Critics gave Black Panther good review because they're afraid of being labeled as "racist" if they give Black Panther an honest and accurate review. And being labeled a "racist" is a career-killer because it's 1 of the 2 worst things that someone can be labeled as. The other is being labeled a "pedophile". Just ask James Gunn. And I wasn't bias. I gave Black Panther an honest and accurate rating since the critics were afraid to do so. Erm, no. The critics were the ones who gave it honest and accurate ratings because it deserved them. Despite poor CGI effects, it still had a great story, memorable characters, a great script, some good action sequences (the chase scene in Korea), a powerful message, and a brilliant performance from Michael B. Jordan. No, it didn't have a great story or powerful message. The story was simply "Angry black man wants to kill his oppressors" and the message was "Black people have been oppressed throughout history", which we already know. There was nothing great or powerful or brilliant about Black Panther.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Sept 5, 2018 6:54:14 GMT
Saying that is as easy as saying critics gave Wonder Woman good reviews because they’re afraid of being labeled as “misogynistic” if they give Wonder Woman an honest and accurate review. No, because being labeled "sexist" or "misogynistic" isn't as bad a stigma as being labeled "racist" or "pedophile". Just look at the 2008 and 2016 Presidential elections. People who didn't vote for Obama were called "racist". People who didn't vote for Hillary weren't called "sexist" or "misogynistic". That's why Trump can talk about "grabbing pussy" and still win the election. There's nothing as bad as being labeled a "racist" or "pedophile". Those are automatic career-killers. Just ask James Gunn. A sexist and misogynist person is still a bad person. The idea of hating women because they're women. WTF are wrong with those people?
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Post by Vassaggo on Sept 5, 2018 7:00:47 GMT
Saying that is as easy as saying critics gave Wonder Woman good reviews because they’re afraid of being labeled as “misogynistic” if they give Wonder Woman an honest and accurate review. No, because being labeled "sexist" or "misogynistic" isn't as bad a stigma as being labeled "racist" or "pedophile". Just look at the 2008 and 2016 Presidential elections. People who didn't vote for Obama were called "racist". People who didn't vote for Hillary weren't called "sexist" or "misogynistic". That's why Trump can talk about "grabbing pussy" and still win the election. There's nothing as bad as being labeled a "racist" or "pedophile". Those are automatic career-killers. Just ask James Gunn. Even if true how do you spin the fact that you used Rotten Tomatoes as proof when they gave WW a good rating, but now their ratings don't matter with Iron Fist? IF WW 93% and 7.6 out of 10 is accurate why isn't Iron Fist's 19% 4.2 out of 10. Also did Disney forget to bribe the critics for Iron Fist? You never answered my question, maybe you missed it. Do you actually pay for Netflix or do you steal their content too?
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Post by DSDSquared on Sept 5, 2018 12:06:00 GMT
Luke Cage Season 2 was better than season one. There is seriously no question of this. It actually was good for all the episodes, unlike season one that dragged after episode 9. Jessica Jones S2 was not as good as S1, but still very well done. I think they have redeemed themselves from Iron Fist S1 and The Defenders. I hear this new season is much better with much better fight scenes. I have high hopes. The characters and premise were great in season one, the writing and fight scenes were just terrible. With a new show runner and staff I feel it could be great.
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Post by DSDSquared on Sept 5, 2018 15:51:22 GMT
There are only two reviews out right now so far and it looks promising. One review is very positive and talks about how they fixed everything that was wrong with season one. From what I read, it sounds like they really listened to our complaints. The action is supposedly great. The second review is rotten, but I put ZERO stock in it. He spends half the review talking about racism because Danny Rand is white. He feels they still needed to recast him as an Asian and cannot figure out why Marvel will not do this. Keep in mind that this has nothing to do with quality of a show and Danny is white in the comics.
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Post by Jayman on Sept 5, 2018 19:42:24 GMT
There are only two reviews out right now so far and it looks promising. One review is very positive and talks about how they fixed everything that was wrong with season one. From what I read, it sounds like they really listened to our complaints. The action is supposedly great. The second review is rotten, but I put ZERO stock in it. He spends half the review talking about racism because Danny Rand is white. He feels they still needed to recast him as an Asian and cannot figure out why Marvel will not do this. Keep in mind that this has nothing to do with quality of a show and Danny is white in the comics. Yeah you can't take a reviewer seriously who seems like he views the world through an SJW lens. That's not why we watch these shows. I really enjoyed the first season so if the 2nd one is even better, it's going to be amazing.
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Post by Jayman on Sept 5, 2018 19:43:49 GMT
Luke Cage Season 2 was better than season one. There is seriously no question of this. It actually was good for all the episodes, unlike season one that dragged after episode 9. Jessica Jones S2 was not as good as S1, but still very well done. I think they have redeemed themselves from Iron Fist S1 and The Defenders. I hear this new season is much better with much better fight scenes. I have high hopes. The characters and premise were great in season one, the writing and fight scenes were just terrible. With a new show runner and staff I feel it could be great. I liked the first season of Luke Cage better than you did. I was underwhelmed by the first 3 or 4 episodes, but then I got hooked and started binge watching. I have not watched season 2 yet. I also have not watched season 2 of Jessica Jones as of yet.
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Post by Jayman on Sept 5, 2018 19:51:27 GMT
Daredevil has been the best season 2 thus far and even it had a lot of problems. Jessica Jones season 2 sucked. Luke Cage season 2 was slow and just okay overall, I wouldn't watch it a second time. Hopefully Iron Fist season 2 is actually good. I learned not to listen to anybody anymore lol. A lot of people say they loved daredevil season 1 and didn't like season 2 nearly as much. I personally prefer season 2.
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Post by DSDSquared on Sept 5, 2018 19:54:42 GMT
Reviews are pouring in now and they are mostly positive. Most say the fight scenes are really good now. I am really excited for this.
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Post by thenewnexus on Sept 5, 2018 20:37:21 GMT
Dude even the better aspects of it were not even 10/10 worthy, the action scenes are very unimpressive - seen even better on The CW for crying out loud. Yet this is a perfect 10 to you giphy.com/gifs/dance-ej0Ay8fH6Y1Wg
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Sept 5, 2018 20:52:52 GMT
Dude even the better aspects of it were not even 10/10 worthy, the action scenes are very unimpressive - seen even better on The CW for crying out loud. Yet this is a perfect 10 to you giphy.com/gifs/dance-ej0Ay8fH6Y1WgThat's cute, you think you can try to pin a win by using a gif from a complain you're mostly known for on here outside of constant suggestion of Kat Dennings for this or that comic book role. Even trolls get newer material to work with every once in a while. If you're being serious, then explain why Iron Fist is a perfect 10/10 based on, say, the execution of the action scenes, what makes them so spectacular from a choreography and filming stand point? I didn't rate GOTG a perfect 10 though. In fact, I've never really rated anything MCU related at that level, but some have been close.
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Post by thenewnexus on Sept 6, 2018 4:25:51 GMT
That's cute, you think you can try to pin a win by using a gif from a complain you're mostly known for on here outside of constant suggestion of Kat Dennings for this or that comic book role. Even trolls get newer material to work with every once in a while. If you're being serious, then explain why Iron Fist is a perfect 10/10 based on, say, the execution of the action scenes, what makes them so spectacular from a choreography and filming stand point? I didn't rate GOTG a perfect 10 though. In fact, I've never really rated anything MCU related at that level, but some have been close. The story,characters and tone make it perfect 10. This is something mcu fans should love
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Sept 6, 2018 4:40:53 GMT
That's cute, you think you can try to pin a win by using a gif from a complain you're mostly known for on here outside of constant suggestion of Kat Dennings for this or that comic book role. Even trolls get newer material to work with every once in a while. If you're being serious, then explain why Iron Fist is a perfect 10/10 based on, say, the execution of the action scenes, what makes them so spectacular from a choreography and filming stand point? I didn't rate GOTG a perfect 10 though. In fact, I've never really rated anything MCU related at that level, but some have been close. The story,characters and tone make it perfect 10. This is something mcu fans should love How are they a perfect 10? It's the least well-received MCU anything after the Inhumans, also showrunned by Scott Buck, for good reason, it's only just a bit better than, say, most of DC's output on THE CW but at least they recognized they're supposed to be campy whereas Iron Fist didn't know what to do with its tone.
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