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Post by summers8 on Sept 6, 2018 4:57:39 GMT
notice you only say xmen and dc rip off movies but fail to admit mcu movies are the same
MCU fans still won't admit that most MCU movies rip off Superman: The Movie, even though MCU Dictator Kevin Feige has admitted that himself. mcu fans are not comic reading fans, so they dont know DOFP came first before T2 and have no clue wonder woman's origin story came first before CA. they are in self denial too.
Also the rip off stuff is one of their last card to play to defend their garbage childish disney movies since no one but them and kids like it compared to xmen and dc films that get more respect and are taken more seriously.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 5:20:43 GMT
No. Because that didn't happen. You mean the movie where the villain creates a world devastating machine and demonstrates it on a Senator they kidnapped. Takes out his old friend that he had a falling out with years earlier. Is chasing someone that ends up on a rogue's transport. The rogue is in a love triangle with the more straight laced younger guy who's mentor is the wizard-like old friend of the villain in helmet and cape. And this rogue is disbelieving of the world the straight laced guy and his mentor are a part of. There's more. But you get the idea of the sum of its parts. We can go on about how X2 is just Empire Strikes Back if you want. A word to the wise: If Singer comes to you for advise in an aspect of a movie, don't give it to him. He'll just make your movie. He went to Lucas about special effects on X-men and went to Cameron for time travel on DoFP.
Funny thing is that I wish that Singer ripped-off The prequels when it comes to Magneto being like Anakin. Meaning he shouldn't have gone bad until the 3rd movie.
But anyway, off topic.
Nope. You're seeing what you want to see. Trust me on this one, dude. Your comparison is a huge reach. |
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Post by summers8 on Sept 6, 2018 12:41:37 GMT
You mean the movie where the villain creates a world devastating machine and demonstrates it on a Senator they kidnapped. Takes out his old friend that he had a falling out with years earlier. Is chasing someone that ends up on a rogue's transport. The rogue is in a love triangle with the more straight laced younger guy who's mentor is the wizard-like old friend of the villain in helmet and cape. And this rogue is disbelieving of the world the straight laced guy and his mentor are a part of. There's more. But you get the idea of the sum of its parts. We can go on about how X2 is just Empire Strikes Back if you want. A word to the wise: If Singer comes to you for advise in an aspect of a movie, don't give it to him. He'll just make your movie. He went to Lucas about special effects on X-men and went to Cameron for time travel on DoFP.
Funny thing is that I wish that Singer ripped-off The prequels when it comes to Magneto being like Anakin. Meaning he shouldn't have gone bad until the 3rd movie.
But anyway, off topic.
Nope. You're seeing what you want to see. Trust me on this one, dude. Your comparison is a huge reach. yep, it's their last ditch effort to make generic jokey all the same mcu look good against DOFP and wonder woman. notice that with thatguy he usually has no one to back his opinions since they are based on lies.LMAO but remember he has failed to admit that new mutants is horror and he compared freaking titanic to 50 shades because he hated James Cameron truthful talk about avengers and gotg. SEE HOW LOW MCU FANS SINKS? poor winter solider as usual, DOFP killed this movie. thatguy still cant handle it. calling it a T2 rip off gives him small comfort. Calling wonder woman a rip off of CA is what also gives him comfort that DC made a better movie than all the mcu movies and wonder woman is more beloved. yawn Captain marvel is a comedy, meaning wonder woman is already superior. maybe he should worry about the next useless comedy from the mcu than talking laughable crap about DOFP and Wonder Woman that had real artistry since the studio let the directors and writers make the films. |
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Post by summers8 on Sept 6, 2018 12:44:28 GMT
interesting. so thatguy and bud47 both hate DOFP because it disgraced the mcu movies
and they have failed to comment on the Disney Oscar bribe. they claim not to be the same but act exactly the same...not.
I almost miss formeershamd, at least he did not need socks to make mcu look passbible.lol
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Post by summers8 on Sept 6, 2018 13:12:57 GMT
so also a rip off of DOFP 1981 the original source.lol. James Cameron was just lucky and talented that he thought like Claremont. funny thing, dofp and T2 were compelling dramas. Thrillers. Disney has said captain marvel is a comedy..Disney style, like thor jokenock was not bad enough but that alone means the movie is already inferior to T2, DOFP sorry but true. wonder woman 1 cannot be surpassed but this is so easy for wonder woman 2 compared to captain marvel. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 6, 2018 13:24:02 GMT
so also a rip off of DOFP 1981 the original source.lol. James Cameron was just lucky and talented that he thought like Claremont. funny thing, dofp and T2 were compelling dramas. Thrillers. Disney has said captain marvel is a comedy..Disney style, like thor jokenock was not bad enough but that alone means the movie is already inferior to T2, DOFP sorry but true. wonder woman 1 cannot be surpassed but this is so easy for wonder woman 2 compared to captain marvel. Wait how is it a rip off of days of Future past? |
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Post by summers8 on Sept 6, 2018 13:34:41 GMT
so also a rip off of DOFP 1981 the original source.lol. James Cameron was just lucky and talented that he thought like Claremont. funny thing, dofp and T2 were compelling dramas. Thrillers. Disney has said captain marvel is a comedy..Disney style, like thor jokenock was not bad enough but that alone means the movie is already inferior to T2, DOFP sorry but true. wonder woman 1 cannot be surpassed but this is so easy for wonder woman 2 compared to captain marvel. Wait how is it a rip off of days of Future past? I was joking. I was just mocking thatguy claims that dofp is a rip of of t2 because he cant accept dofp destroyed the best mcu movie in 2014, and he hates non marvel mcu films since they disgrace mcu movies. ie DOFP/Spider-Man 2. he also claims wonder woman ripped of captain America even though that is not possible since both wonder woman's origin story and dofp were written before T2 and Captain America films even if their movies came after. you have to forgive mcu fans, they lie and don't accept facts about xmen and dc mythology.in the 90s, people did accuse Cameron of ripping of the 1981 DOFP classic story, so it means captain marvel will be a rip of DOFP right? honestly this is just crap talk from mcu crazed fanatics. captain marvel is a Disney comedy like the rest. that is what we should be focusing on. is wonder woman 2 coming out in 2019?oh, this is way too easy, for the beautiful amazon warrior princess.
wonder woman 2 >>>>>>>>>>>> captain comedy marvel. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 6, 2018 13:43:57 GMT
I will not compare the films because I'm rooting both films to be successful.
It's time we embrace female lead Superhero movies and stop living in the sexist present of male dominated films.
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Post by charzhino on Sept 6, 2018 13:45:13 GMT
wonder woman 2 >>>>>>>>>>>> captain comedy marvel. Xmen Dark Phoenix is released 3 weeks before Captain Marvel. Even though Kinberg is a first time director I can still see it being the film with more substance as he said it will focus on drama. Also there are Skrulls in Dark Phoneix too and looking at those EW pics for captain Marvel, it would take a big effort to make them look any worse. Dark Phoneix will be the real female centric lead comic film of 2019 |
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Post by bud47 on Sept 6, 2018 13:47:12 GMT
interesting. so thatguy and bud47 both hate DOFP because it disgraced the mcu movies and they have failed to comment on the Disney Oscar bribe. they claim not to be the same but act exactly the same...not. I almost miss formeershamd, at least he did not need socks to make mcu look passbible.lol I don't hate DOFP. It irritates me in a lot of ways because of how it treats the X-Men, but I certainly don't hate it. My problems with the Fox-Men films began with X3 back in 2006. Did the MCU exist back then? My problems with these films have nothing to do with the MCU, no matter how much you think it does. Almost 20 years and they still haven't even come close to reaching their cinematic potential. We don't care about any of these characters other than Xavier, Wolverine and Magneto, which isn't right. The X-Men should be on HBO where a proper miniseries can be made exploring all of the characters. I don't care about the Oscars as much as you do. And will somebody in charge here please verify the IP addresses for both Thatguy and myself so that the insecure, fanatical butthurt Fox-Men fanboys on this board can have their minds put at ease? Some of our opinions are the same, but we disagree on a lot of things. |
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Post by bud47 on Sept 6, 2018 13:56:32 GMT
wonder woman 2 >>>>>>>>>>>> captain comedy marvel. Xmen Dark Phoenix is released 3 weeks before Captain Marvel. Even though Kinberg is a first time director I can still see it being the film with more substance as he said it will focus on drama. Also there are Skrulls in Dark Phoneix too and looking at those EW pics for captain Marvel, it would take a big effort to make them look any worse. Dark Phoneix will be the real female centric lead comic film of 2019 Kinberg's only previous directing experience is with the reshoots for Fan4stic and we all know how well that went. If you want to put your faith in him because it means backing anything other than the MCU, then go ahead. The Skrulls in Captain Marvel looked better in the concept art, but they still look like the Skrulls. I can imagine the Skrulls in Dark Phoenix showing up as human looking agents in black suits only to reveal themselves at the end of the film as a massive cloud. Dark Phoenix will be the dumpster fire of 2019. |
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Post by charzhino on Sept 6, 2018 14:09:50 GMT
Kinberg's only previous directing experience is with the reshoots for Fan4stic and we all know how well that went. If you want to put your faith in him because it means backing anything other than the MCU, then go ahead.
Kinberg had to pick up the pieces after Trank went awol. But Simon has been involved with the X franchise for a long time and has seen the highs and lows so he would be in a good position to implement what works and what doesn't. And Im backing Dark Phoneix because of what is being said about it by the people involved:
''It’s interesting, the drama in the movie. We treated this movie as much more of a drama versus a superhero film. '' - Tye Sheridan
"more intense, and it's more real and grounded, and hopefully more relatable." - Simon Kinberg
she promised a "dark, gritty drama" that would turn the franchise on its head. "We are revolutionizing it," Turner explained. "We wanted to create a whole new genre of superhero movie." - Sophie Turner
I will take that over the inevitable light hearted comedy that Captain Marvel is sounding like its going to end up as. Same old overplayed MCU gimmick.
We will see hopefuly a trailer is released with The Predator in the coming weeks. |
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Post by bud47 on Sept 6, 2018 14:13:57 GMT
Kinberg's only previous directing experience is with the reshoots for Fan4stic and we all know how well that went. If you want to put your faith in him because it means backing anything other than the MCU, then go ahead. Kinberg had to pick up the pieces after Trank went awol. But Simon has been involved with the X franchise for a long time and has seen the highs and lows so he would be in a good position to implement what works and what doesn't. And Im backing Dark Phoneix because of what is being said about it by the people involved: ''It’s interesting, the drama in the movie. We treated this movie as much more of a drama versus a superhero film. '' - Tye Sheridan
"more intense, and it's more real and grounded, and hopefully more relatable." - Simon Kinberg
she promised a "dark, gritty drama" that would turn the franchise on its head. "We are revolutionizing it," Turner explained. "We wanted to create a whole new genre of superhero movie." - Sophie TurnerI will take that over the inevitable light hearted comedy that Captain Marvel is sounding like its going to end up as. Same old overplayed MCU gimmick. We will see hopefuly a trailer is released with The Predator in the coming weeks. They said the same things about Fan4stic and Kinberg's efforts didn't help. How did that turn out? |
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Post by charzhino on Sept 6, 2018 14:16:19 GMT
They said the same things about Fan4stic. How did that turn out? Studio inference and creative differences mid shoot sabotaged the project. Everything in dark phoenix shooting has gone smoothly according to cast. |
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Post by summers8 on Sept 6, 2018 14:26:49 GMT
I will not compare the films because I'm rooting both films to be successful. It's time we embrace female lead Superhero movies and stop living in the sexist present of male dominated films. captain marvel should not be a comedy. this is the proof
the facts are the facts. |
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Post by summers8 on Sept 6, 2018 14:30:37 GMT
Kinberg had to pick up the pieces after Trank went awol. But Simon has been involved with the X franchise for a long time and has seen the highs and lows so he would be in a good position to implement what works and what doesn't. And Im backing Dark Phoneix because of what is being said about it by the people involved: ''It’s interesting, the drama in the movie. We treated this movie as much more of a drama versus a superhero film. '' - Tye Sheridan
"more intense, and it's more real and grounded, and hopefully more relatable." - Simon Kinberg
she promised a "dark, gritty drama" that would turn the franchise on its head. "We are revolutionizing it," Turner explained. "We wanted to create a whole new genre of superhero movie." - Sophie TurnerI will take that over the inevitable light hearted comedy that Captain Marvel is sounding like its going to end up as. Same old overplayed MCU gimmick. We will see hopefuly a trailer is released with The Predator in the coming weeks. They said the same things about Fan4stic and Kinberg's efforts didn't help. How did that turn out? How will mcu xmen turn out? WORSE THAN BATMAN AND ROBIN. it will be worse than Kinberg too. At least kinberg understands the content of xmen. same can't be said for MCU. at least kinberg knows dark phoenix is meant to be a serious drama. where did mcu get the idea captain marvel should be comedy? why exactly do you want xmen in the mcu again? I still wait for the simple answer. |
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Post by summers8 on Sept 6, 2018 14:58:17 GMT
interesting. so thatguy and bud47 both hate DOFP because it disgraced the mcu movies and they have failed to comment on the Disney Oscar bribe. they claim not to be the same but act exactly the same...not. I almost miss formeershamd, at least he did not need socks to make mcu look passbible.lol I don't hate DOFP. It irritates me in a lot of ways because of how it treats the X-Men, but I certainly don't hate it. My problems with the Fox-Men films began with X3 back in 2006. Did the MCU exist back then? My problems with these films have nothing to do with the MCU, no matter how much you think it does. Almost 20 years and they still haven't even come close to reaching their cinematic potential. We don't care about any of these characters other than Xavier, Wolverine and Magneto, which isn't right. The X-Men should be on HBO where a proper miniseries can be made exploring all of the characters. I don't care about the Oscars as much as you do. And will somebody in charge here please verify the IP addresses for both Thatguy and myself so that the insecure, fanatical butthurt Fox-Men fanboys on this board can have their minds put at ease? So how come no mcu movie comes close to DOFP? The best they have is TWS. do you like TWS? If it is not about the mcu why did you say xmen will get a fresh start there? this is the mcu that can't even make a Logan or a DOFP or a first class not even with black panther? how will mcu xmen comedy fair against DOFP? LAST JEDI VS A NEW HOPE? captain marvel is a comedy again? how does that work |
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Post by bud47 on Sept 6, 2018 14:58:41 GMT
They said the same things about Fan4stic and Kinberg's efforts didn't help. How did that turn out? How will mcu xmen turn out? WORSE THAN BATMAN AND ROBIN. it will be worse than Kinberg too. At least kinberg understands the content of xmen. same can't be said for MCU. at least kinberg knows dark phoenix is meant to be a serious drama. where did mcu get the idea captain marvel should be comedy? why exactly do you want xmen in the mcu again? I still wait for the simple answer. Keep obsessing over the MCU X-Men. The film is probably years away, but it's already driven you crazy. It doesn't matter what anybody wants. Fox sold to Disney. The X-Men are with the MCU. You lost. Deal with it. |
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Post by bud47 on Sept 6, 2018 15:01:51 GMT
They said the same things about Fan4stic. How did that turn out? Studio inference and creative differences mid shoot sabotaged the project. Everything in dark phoenix shooting has gone smoothly according to cast. The cast said the same thing about Fan4stic. It sounds like you're just putting blind faith into anything that isn't the MCU. |
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Post by bud47 on Sept 6, 2018 15:15:15 GMT
I don't hate DOFP. It irritates me in a lot of ways because of how it treats the X-Men, but I certainly don't hate it. My problems with the Fox-Men films began with X3 back in 2006. Did the MCU exist back then? My problems with these films have nothing to do with the MCU, no matter how much you think it does. Almost 20 years and they still haven't even come close to reaching their cinematic potential. We don't care about any of these characters other than Xavier, Wolverine and Magneto, which isn't right. The X-Men should be on HBO where a proper miniseries can be made exploring all of the characters. I don't care about the Oscars as much as you do. And will somebody in charge here please verify the IP addresses for both Thatguy and myself so that the insecure, fanatical butthurt Fox-Men fanboys on this board can have their minds put at ease? So how come no mcu movie comes close to DOFP? The best they have is TWS. do you like TWS? If it is not about the mcu why did you say xmen will get a fresh start there? this is the mcu that can't even make a Logan or a DOFP or a first class not even with black panther? how will mcu xmen comedy fair against DOFP? LAST JEDI VS A NEW HOPE? captain marvel is a comedy again? how does that work I don't needlessly compare films like you do. It's not a competition for me. I either enjoy a film or I don't. The X-Men will get a fresh start under Marvel. It's been 20 years of the same from Fox with underdeveloped and underutilized characters that will finally get a chance to shine in a new series of films that will thankfully put you into a deep depression. Captain Marvel will most likely have something for everyone, which (gasp!) includes comedy. There's nothing that says it's a straight up comedy with no drama whatsoever. Brie Larson recently said that she brought the same level of dramatic acting as her full-on dramas. I'll judge it for myself when I see it. You already know what to expect from Disney and Marvel. Why does anything they do surprise you at this point? Why are you continuing this pointless fighting? Their films aren't made for you. So just switch the channel already. |
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