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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 6, 2018 17:09:35 GMT
You mean the movie where the villain creates a world devastating machine and demonstrates it on a Senator they kidnapped. Takes out his old friend that he had a falling out with years earlier. Is chasing someone that ends up on a rogue's transport. The rogue is in a love triangle with the more straight laced younger guy who's mentor is the wizard-like old friend of the villain in helmet and cape. And this rogue is disbelieving of the world the straight laced guy and his mentor are a part of. There's more. But you get the idea of the sum of its parts. We can go on about how X2 is just Empire Strikes Back if you want. A word to the wise: If Singer comes to you for advise in an aspect of a movie, don't give it to him. He'll just make your movie. He went to Lucas about special effects on X-men and went to Cameron for time travel on DoFP.
Funny thing is that I wish that Singer ripped-off The prequels when it comes to Magneto being like Anakin. Meaning he shouldn't have gone bad until the 3rd movie.
But anyway, off topic.
Nope. You're seeing what you want to see. Trust me on this one, dude. Your comparison is a huge reach. Seeing what I want to see? That was actually in the movie. Magneto didn't create a world devastating machine? Globe shaped, I might add. Magneto didn't demonstrate it for Senator Kelly like Tarkin demonstrated the Death Star for Senator Organa? Magneto didn't take out Xavier for the rest of the movie like Vader took out Obi Wan? Magneto wasn't looking for Rogue the same way Vader was looking for R2? They didn't have Logan saying how stupid the idea of the X-men and the Brotherhood was the same way Han was saying he didn't believe in the Force? Heh, right. Seeing what I want to see.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 1:06:15 GMT
Nope. You're seeing what you want to see. Trust me on this one, dude. Your comparison is a huge reach. Seeing what I want to see? That was actually in the movie. Magneto didn't create a world devastating machine? Globe shaped, I might add. Magneto didn't demonstrate it for Senator Kelly like Tarkin demonstrated the Death Star for Senator Organa? Magneto didn't take out Xavier for the rest of the movie like Vader took out Obi Wan? Magneto wasn't looking for Rogue the same way Vader was looking for R2? They didn't have Logan saying how stupid the idea of the X-men and the Brotherhood was the same way Han was saying he didn't believe in the Force? Heh, right. Seeing what I want to see. REACH! I'm gonna start calling you Jack REACHer.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Sept 7, 2018 2:12:28 GMT
There is a big difference between taking inspiration from something and lifting wholesale from something. DoFP lifted virtually everything from T2. They just said that they took inspiration from the fights and chase scenes in T2 for Captain Marvel. Singer is really good at remaking a movie into something else entirely. Remember when he ripped-off Star Wars and called it X1? not necessarily, that is just you trying to make yourself feel better because of DOFP trashed the best mcu movie in 2014. if dofp ripped of T2, believe me ,you will not be the only voice with that narrative. see force awakens vs new hope. See black panther vs lion king and thor 1 and 3.
notice you only say xmen and dc rip off movies but fail to admit mcu movies are the same, considering everything that happened in DOFP happened in the comics long before T2. saying singer is good at remaking movies when all mcu movies are the same and black panther tried to remake a great xmen movie and failed at every level. sad thing about captain marvel, not only will the movie end up becoming inferior to wonder woman that you think ripped of CA, it wont even be mentioned on the same level as DOFP,
Man, the number of times you replied in this thread, acting all salty and defensive like the X-Men films are something special. And the fact you're already judging Captain Marvel before even the first trailer is out simply because it's with the "MCU". If that's not proof of a biased DC troll, I don't know what is....
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Sept 7, 2018 2:34:27 GMT
Seeing what I want to see? That was actually in the movie. Magneto didn't create a world devastating machine? Globe shaped, I might add. Magneto didn't demonstrate it for Senator Kelly like Tarkin demonstrated the Death Star for Senator Organa? Magneto didn't take out Xavier for the rest of the movie like Vader took out Obi Wan? Magneto wasn't looking for Rogue the same way Vader was looking for R2? They didn't have Logan saying how stupid the idea of the X-men and the Brotherhood was the same way Han was saying he didn't believe in the Force? Heh, right. Seeing what I want to see. REACH! I'm gonna start calling you Jack REACHer. I KNOW! LET'S CALL HIM "JACKOFF REACH AROUND" !!!!!!!!!!4
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 3:54:14 GMT
REACH! I'm gonna start calling you Jack REACHer. I KNOW! LET'S CALL HIM "JACKOFF REACH AROUND" !!!!!!!!!!4 BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!@!!
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Post by summers8 on Sept 7, 2018 7:30:15 GMT
Keep obsessing over the MCU X-Men. The film is probably years away, but it's already driven you crazy. It doesn't matter what anybody wants. Fox sold to Disney. The X-Men are with the MCU. You lost. Deal with it. once again, little content in your words. mcu xmen , I am already celebrating the failure before the film is out. it will always make me laugh how mcu fans could not stand xmen movies embarrassing their own films. it's too late. we got the films X2. DOFP, LOGAN, First Class, X-Men So are you already ashamed of CHILDISH mcu xmen already? interesting...very interesting. Still waiting for the answer of why ....captain marvel is a comedy
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Post by summers8 on Sept 7, 2018 7:32:52 GMT
Seeing what I want to see? That was actually in the movie. Magneto didn't create a world devastating machine? Globe shaped, I might add. Magneto didn't demonstrate it for Senator Kelly like Tarkin demonstrated the Death Star for Senator Organa? Magneto didn't take out Xavier for the rest of the movie like Vader took out Obi Wan? Magneto wasn't looking for Rogue the same way Vader was looking for R2? They didn't have Logan saying how stupid the idea of the X-men and the Brotherhood was the same way Han was saying he didn't believe in the Force? Heh, right. Seeing what I want to see. REACH! I'm gonna start calling you Jack REACHer. LOL..Exactly. look at the melt down from mcu fans the more thatguy talks the more he exposes how bad mcu is. notice he is the only one with the opinions? thatguy can you name 5 people that backs you up. I can name 50 people that proof all mcu movies are the same.
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Post by summers8 on Sept 7, 2018 7:34:11 GMT
not necessarily, that is just you trying to make yourself feel better because of DOFP trashed the best mcu movie in 2014. if dofp ripped of T2, believe me ,you will not be the only voice with that narrative. see force awakens vs new hope. See black panther vs lion king and thor 1 and 3.
notice you only say xmen and dc rip off movies but fail to admit mcu movies are the same, considering everything that happened in DOFP happened in the comics long before T2. saying singer is good at remaking movies when all mcu movies are the same and black panther tried to remake a great xmen movie and failed at every level. sad thing about captain marvel, not only will the movie end up becoming inferior to wonder woman that you think ripped of CA, it wont even be mentioned on the same level as DOFP,
Man, the number of times you replied in this thread, acting all salty and defensive like the X-Men films are something special. And the fact you're already judging Captain Marvel before even the first trailer is out simply because it's with the "MCU". If that's not proof of a biased DC troll, I don't know what is.... it is easy to judge and predict captian marvel. Disney said the film is a comedy. I think we know how it will turn out. we have avengers, thor jokenock and gotg as map roads.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Sept 7, 2018 7:35:26 GMT
REACH! I'm gonna start calling you Jack REACHer. LOL..Exactly. look at the melt down from mcu fans Every single one of your anti-MCU posts sounds like a meltdown.
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Post by summers8 on Sept 7, 2018 8:03:46 GMT
LOL..Exactly. look at the melt down from mcu fans Every single one of your anti-MCU posts sounds like a meltdown. People don't have meltdowns for saying the truth. it is naturally impossible to the human nature...what is that saying...the truth sets you freeIf anyone is having a meltdown it is usually mcu fans that can't tell us how mcu will adapt E is for Extinction, so they lash out at us...why we laugh at their incompetence. yawn..bring on wonder woman 2. at least that is not a Disney comedy.
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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 7, 2018 17:24:43 GMT
Seeing what I want to see? That was actually in the movie. Magneto didn't create a world devastating machine? Globe shaped, I might add. Magneto didn't demonstrate it for Senator Kelly like Tarkin demonstrated the Death Star for Senator Organa? Magneto didn't take out Xavier for the rest of the movie like Vader took out Obi Wan? Magneto wasn't looking for Rogue the same way Vader was looking for R2? They didn't have Logan saying how stupid the idea of the X-men and the Brotherhood was the same way Han was saying he didn't believe in the Force? Heh, right. Seeing what I want to see. REACH! I'm gonna start calling you Jack REACHer. So you saying those similar events did not happen? Like I said before, if it was one thing that would be different, but when you have a bunch of stuff from a movie that's a rip-off.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 17:36:11 GMT
REACH! I'm gonna start calling you Jack REACHer. So you saying those similar events did not happen? Like I said before, if it was one thing that would be different, but when you have a bunch of stuff from a movie that's a rip-off. Ok, I'll bite. Your first example is that both villains had doomsday devices. I do believe there's about a billion movies where the villain has a doomsday device. I guess every James Bond movie is a Star Wars rip off too? You also think it's a Star Wars rip off because the villain kills or disables the mentor figure. Again, STANDARD Hero's Journey plot device. It happens in a lot of MCU movies too in case you didn't notice. I could make the same point for every one of your so called similar events.
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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 7, 2018 17:41:13 GMT
So you saying those similar events did not happen? Like I said before, if it was one thing that would be different, but when you have a bunch of stuff from a movie that's a rip-off.Ok, I'll bite. Your first example is that both villains had doomsday devices. I do believe there's about a billion movies where the villain has a doomsday device. I guess every James Bond movie is a Star Wars rip off too? You also think it's a Star Wars rip off because the villain kills or disables the mentor figure. Again, STANDARD Hero's Journey plot device. It happens in a lot of MCU movies too in case you didn't notice. I could make the same point for every one of your so called similar events. Bold part. What Singer does is like copying a person's homework except changing some words around.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 17:43:34 GMT
Ok, I'll bite. Your first example is that both villains had doomsday devices. I do believe there's about a billion movies where the villain has a doomsday device. I guess every James Bond movie is a Star Wars rip off too? You also think it's a Star Wars rip off because the villain kills or disables the mentor figure. Again, STANDARD Hero's Journey plot device. It happens in a lot of MCU movies too in case you didn't notice. I could make the same point for every one of your so called similar events. Bold part. Doesn't matter when every example is either a common fantasy trope or a huge reach.
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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 7, 2018 17:45:54 GMT
Doesn't matter when every example is either a common fantasy trope or a huge reach. Not when those "common fantasy tropes" are done the same way as another single movie. That same movie made by the person he went to for "advice".
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 7, 2018 19:48:38 GMT
Doesn't matter when every example is either a common fantasy trope or a huge reach. Not when those "common fantasy tropes" are done the same way as another single movie. That same movie made by the person he went to for "advice". I hope you’re not a lawyer, pal.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Sept 8, 2018 0:53:54 GMT
Not when those "common fantasy tropes" are done the same way as another single movie. That same movie made by the person he went to for "advice". I hope you’re not a lawyer, pal.
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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 8, 2018 3:56:06 GMT
Not when those "common fantasy tropes" are done the same way as another single movie. That same movie made by the person he went to for "advice". I hope you’re not a lawyer, pal. Like I said: if he took the fantasy tropes, then fine. But he took scenes and transferred them over to his movie. He took stuff like kidnapping a senator and demonstrating his doomsday device on him/her. Blowing up Alderaan in front of Leia and using his "mutant machine" on Kelly is the same scene.
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Post by summers8 on Sept 8, 2018 5:56:00 GMT
Doesn't matter when every example is either a common fantasy trope or a huge reach. Not when those "common fantasy tropes" are done the same way as another single movie. That same movie made by the person he went to for "advice". Hardly.... but the rip off card gets old for the mcu attack the defence. reason you have failed to convince anyone. I think you need to just accept the general consensus is that singer made superior movies to the mcu movies.
convincing yourself it is a rip off at this point is now as bad as the delusions that the demon bear saga is not a horror story. you are just making mcu movies look even more worse.
Directors ask other directors for advice, I think that is the reason most mcu directors have bad experiences. DOFP is in the end still superior to all the mcu movies. deal with it.
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Post by summers8 on Sept 8, 2018 6:02:45 GMT
I hope you’re not a lawyer, pal. LOL..True.
if this was a legal battle. thatguy's case will get thrown out or it will be an irony. in the sense that once the judge realises DOFP and wonder woman came first. they would ask captain America and T2 to pay compensation and royalties to them.
I pity thatguy, I wonder how mcu movies can be so horrible he has to sink to such delusion where he can't accept reality.
poor winter solider, in 2014 DOFP must have really destroyed the movie, the best winter solider fans can do is call it A Rip Off. So sad.
poor captain America 1 too. wonder woman rules. even the adaption of her back story from justice league that ran from 2000-2004 is better than Captian America 1 2011.
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