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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 9, 2018 23:20:16 GMT
According to DR Freaky ...
TYRION LANNISTER DIES!!!!
executed by trial
the final dragonpit scenes they were filming last month with some cast members which included sophie turner ,lena headley
and other with the exception of emilia clarke ( dany) according to Dr Freaky
(sorry dont know his real name) but he is from Spain and he has been one of the few spoilers
who gets many things correct -
he confirms that Tyrion gets executed at the dragonpit for betraying DANY AND JON
thats all he knows , he wasnt sure about the jon part but he definitely betrays dany
and that would go along with what i was thinking all along...
however Dr freaky spoiler has some holes ,...if indeed tyrion gets executed because he betrays dany
that means he made a secret deal with his sister cersei , which we never got to watch their entire conversation,
why then would cersei execute him if she is still in power?
unless Jon survives or dany does they find out and they execute him???
i cant seem to connect everything but i believe this spoiler ,and i think it has more to do with sansa
could tyrion take her place if she is prisoner ? or they colluded together since sansa
is not a fan of danys ,and execute him instead of sansa???
this could very well be the BIG WTF MOMENT at the end D&D PROMISED US.
if this is true and his marriage to sansa still stands and if sansa is only surviving member
from the lannisters through marriage ,she will be a widow of Tyrion Lannister
and then becomes queen of KL .
What i have to tell you has nothing to do with dr freaky or anybody else this is my own
spoiler i read from a site which i shared years ago and was laughed at on that stupid board
they shut down , 4-5 years ago GRMM left some scripts on his desk one of his housekeepers or maids
saw them read them and leaked them , and it said
DANY LOSSES ONE OF HER DRAGONS POSSIBLY TWO
DANY DIES NORTH OF THE WALL
TYRION AND DRAGONS DIE
this was 4-5 years ago ...
so what do you all make out of this and what do you think?
this is the video as well from talking thrones talking about this spoiler
which i believe.\
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Sept 10, 2018 0:45:38 GMT
I don't like the idea of anyone else but Cersei having control of the Dragonpit  The rest is plausible, though. Tyrion dying for being a conflicted wretch wouldn't bother me but I doubt this should be "the big final twist". That's just one more character death. Daenerys having the fan favourite executed, on the other hand, will send the stupid on a roller coaster. "How could she do this?" these idiots will ask, after all the people she's killed left and right without a thought. They deserve that so much. Yes, I like it, just not in the Dragonpit. Then she'll go die north or maybe Bronn will learn to use that big crossbow and finish her Dothraki style  |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Sept 10, 2018 2:58:12 GMT
the final dragonpit scenes they were filming last month with some cast members which included sophie turner ,lena headley and other with the exception of emilia clarke ( dany) according to Dr Freaky he confirms that Tyrion gets executed at the dragonpit for betraying DANY AND JON thats all he knows , he wasnt sure about the jon part but he definitely betrays dany and that would go along with what i was thinking all along... How come Emilia Clarke wouldn't be present at the execution unless Daenerys has died? She always made a point of being well in sight in such situations. Maybe Tyrion killed her? Sansa and Cersei being there must not be a surprise, it fits with my ending But they wouldn't kill Tyrion for this reason, they wouldn't even use it as a false excuse because it would somehow acknowledge the validity of Daenerys' claim. Kit Harington was there too, so Jon could be the one who swings the sword… The reverse situation is also possible. A vanquished, captive but pregnant Cersei would not be killed but forced to witness the execution of her ally and brother. I don't like that one, though |
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Post by Aj_June on Sept 10, 2018 3:05:31 GMT
Dr Freaky has also said Jonsa is not happening. I wonder what you think about that?
Yes, I could see Tyrion betraying Jon & Dany. Even last season Tyrion said he loved Cersei's kid. And may be his stupid plans were mainly to save House Lannister.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Sept 10, 2018 3:21:41 GMT
What i have to tell you has nothing to do with dr freaky or anybody else this is my own spoiler i read from a site which i shared years ago and was laughed at on that stupid board they shut down , 4-5 years ago GRMM left some scripts on his desk one of his housekeepers or maids saw them read them and leaked them , and it said DANY LOSSES ONE OF HER DRAGONS POSSIBLY TWO DANY DIES NORTH OF THE WALL TYRION AND DRAGONS DIE I wasn't amongst those laughing and I believed this spoiler the moment I saw it. It was fully in line with my expectations on the story and my assessment of the author. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Sept 10, 2018 3:24:15 GMT
Even last season Tyrion said he loved Cersei's kid. And may be his stupid plans were mainly to save House Lannister. His plan would have been to save an innocent life and stop a tyrant. Or maybe Cersei bought him with Casterly Rock? Edit: yes, I know you mean his failing conquest strategies of S7 with "stupid plans". No, that was just contrived writing and setting up the basis for betrayal. Tyrion wants a "clean war" and that hardly works but it is the root of his disillusion with Daenerys. |
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Post by Aj_June on Sept 10, 2018 3:37:54 GMT
Even last season Tyrion said he loved Cersei's kid. And may be his stupid plans were mainly to save House Lannister. Or maybe Cersei bought him with Casterly Rock? That's very possible. Didn't he want to die as a rich man. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Sept 10, 2018 3:46:44 GMT
Or maybe Cersei bought him with Casterly Rock? That's very possible. Didn't he want to die as a rich man. I think he only mentioned something about wine and a woman's mouth. It's long ago, though. |
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 10, 2018 20:40:13 GMT
What i have to tell you has nothing to do with dr freaky or anybody else this is my own spoiler i read from a site which i shared years ago and was laughed at on that stupid board they shut down , 4-5 years ago GRMM left some scripts on his desk one of his housekeepers or maids saw them read them and leaked them , and it said DANY LOSSES ONE OF HER DRAGONS POSSIBLY TWO DANY DIES NORTH OF THE WALL TYRION AND DRAGONS DIE I wasn't amongst those laughing and I believed this spoiler the moment I saw it. It was fully in line with my expectations on the story and my assessment of the author. I didnt know he specifically mentioned Jonsa , is that all he said ? all i heard about dr freaky regarding sansas possible "suitor" when he was asked about sansa getting remarried , he said its possible and there could be a third wedding for sansa but he said he doesnt know to who , so his predictions for sansa are kinda sketchy -but this spoiler with tyrion seems to be more sure and it also fits with previous spoilers about tyrion dying unlike the guy in the youtbe video i was not shocked that may be tyrions fate ,its not first time im hearing it but i just didnt think it would happen in this way , but its not like DR freaky didnt get stuff wrong before but i do have a sad bad feeling for tyrion . |
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 10, 2018 20:45:54 GMT
What i have to tell you has nothing to do with dr freaky or anybody else this is my own spoiler i read from a site which i shared years ago and was laughed at on that stupid board they shut down , 4-5 years ago GRMM left some scripts on his desk one of his housekeepers or maids saw them read them and leaked them , and it said DANY LOSSES ONE OF HER DRAGONS POSSIBLY TWO DANY DIES NORTH OF THE WALL TYRION AND DRAGONS DIE I wasn't amongst those laughing and I believed this spoiler the moment I saw it. It was fully in line with my expectations on the story and my assessment of the author. thank you Leo you kept an open mind we all have our favorites and its always sad when we hear our favorite characters may not make it , but some of the fans laughing instead of asking questions how and why it could happen they thought it was a joke at that time dany and tyrion didnt even meet yet just like they tell me know jon and sansa have not yet met in the books but they will just like it happened with dany and tyrion , and that i was stupid believing in some maid or if i thought GRMM was so stupid to leave scripts laying around on his desk , well i dont know about GRMM but i do know D&D/HBO was careless and episodes and scripts of S6/7 got hacked and leaked . |
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 10, 2018 20:55:50 GMT
the final dragonpit scenes they were filming last month with some cast members which included sophie turner ,lena headley and other with the exception of emilia clarke ( dany) according to Dr Freaky he confirms that Tyrion gets executed at the dragonpit for betraying DANY AND JON thats all he knows , he wasnt sure about the jon part but he definitely betrays dany and that would go along with what i was thinking all along... How come Emilia Clarke wouldn't be present at the execution unless Daenerys has died? She always made a point of being well in sight in such situations. Maybe Tyrion killed her? Sansa and Cersei being there must not be a surprise, it fits with my ending But they wouldn't kill Tyrion for this reason, they wouldn't even use it as a false excuse because it would somehow acknowledge the validity of Daenerys' claim. Kit Harington was there too, so Jon could be the one who swings the sword… The reverse situation is also possible. A vanquished, captive but pregnant Cersei would not be killed but forced to witness the execution of her ally and brother. I don't like that one, though OMG i didnt think of that , i think that could happen too , i think if cersei and tyrion are on trial for betrayal i think tyrion may take the place of his sister since she is with child ,also a lot of fans believe cersei will miscarry her baby because the maggy witch told her her children will die- she never told her she wont be able to have more children , fine ok she told her the king will have 20 and you 3 gold will be their shrouds or something like that , but the maggy never told her you wont have other or more children , so i think its a strong possibility cersei and her child survives - it will be so sad if Jon ends up executing tyrion , very bittersweet too , yes i do believe history may repeat itself just like jamie lannister took out the mad king so will tyrion who is the closest lannister to dany betray her i dont see tyrion killing her but then again he has killed shae and i didnt think he would go through with that , one thing is for sure dany is not there rest of cast was and sophie turner said in an interview that sansa ends up in a position of power  maybe sansa gives the order to assassinate tyrion? |
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 10, 2018 21:12:02 GMT
Even last season Tyrion said he loved Cersei's kid. And may be his stupid plans were mainly to save House Lannister. His plan would have been to save an innocent life and stop a tyrant. Or maybe Cersei bought him with Casterly Rock? Edit: yes, I know you mean his failing conquest strategies of S7 with "stupid plans". No, that was just contrived writing and setting up the basis for betrayal. Tyrion wants a "clean war" and that hardly works but it is the root of his disillusion with Daenerys. For tyrion to betray Dany something BIG will have to happen we know he believes in her to make the world a better place but we have also seen tyrion is questioning her decisions more and more you can tell he didnt enjoy watching his "people" being burned and their spoils when dany attacked and then he witnessed an arrow go straight to drogo and took her down , he begged her not to take the dragons north of the wall and she doesnt listen to him and she lost one of her dragons , his face at the finale last season says it all , dany has fallen in love with the king of the north she is being careless already lost a dragon in tyrions eyes thats less power and now with her dragon resurrected as a zombie ice dragon , her dragon will end up doing more harm than good , i think tyrion was trying to find out from dany how she feels about jon snow and i remember she said "he is to little for me " - maybe tyrion does love dany too , he already told her daario wont be first or last to love her , so it may have bothered him seeing jon go to danys chambers -she lied to him how she feels about jon snow . Or dany ascends to madness and tyrion feels it is best to betray her for the good of others. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Sept 11, 2018 4:01:01 GMT
His plan would have been to save an innocent life and stop a tyrant. Or maybe Cersei bought him with Casterly Rock? Edit: yes, I know you mean his failing conquest strategies of S7 with "stupid plans". No, that was just contrived writing and setting up the basis for betrayal. Tyrion wants a "clean war" and that hardly works but it is the root of his disillusion with Daenerys. For tyrion to betray Dany something BIG will have to happen w e know he believes in her to make
the world a better place but we have also seen tyrion is questioning her decisions more and moreyou can tell he didnt enjoy watching his "people" being burned and their spoils when dany attacked and then he witnessed an arrow go straight to drogo and took her down , he begged her not to take the dragons north of the wall and she doesnt listen to him and she lost one of her dragons , his face at the finale last season says it all , dany has fallen in love with the king of the north she is being careless already lost a dragon in tyrions eyes thats less power and now with her dragon resurrected as a zombie ice dragon , her dragon will end up doing more harm than good , Tyrion is being made to go through the classical cycle of the political opponent falling for the spell of a leader he hopes will change the world but ends up being a tyrant. He has been made the acolyte to Robespierre or to Lenin and realises they are not what he wants them to be. This will be his character arc and he will fall trying to correct his mistake and prevent the worst from happening. Careful observers will have noticed that Daenerys never claimed to make the world better. She said she would "take what is hers", "break the wheel", "ask from others more than any ever did". Jorah wants to believe in her "gentle heart", which she denies having, tells Tyrion she will rule well. Varys plants that seed too and Tyrion ends up believing in the possibility of ruling through her, of having her do what he thinks is right but all that well meaning is exclusively rooted in the fantasy of her followers. Her own speech is very different from that: In other words: "you are mine, do as I ask, kill my enemies, give me what I want, forever" - "Bend the knee". Take and break, this is what Daenerys really is about. |
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 11, 2018 22:41:28 GMT
For tyrion to betray Dany something BIG will have to happen w e know he believes in her to make
the world a better place but we have also seen tyrion is questioning her decisions more and moreyou can tell he didnt enjoy watching his "people" being burned and their spoils when dany attacked and then he witnessed an arrow go straight to drogo and took her down , he begged her not to take the dragons north of the wall and she doesnt listen to him and she lost one of her dragons , his face at the finale last season says it all , dany has fallen in love with the king of the north she is being careless already lost a dragon in tyrions eyes thats less power and now with her dragon resurrected as a zombie ice dragon , her dragon will end up doing more harm than good , Tyrion is being made to go through the classical cycle of the political opponent falling for the spell of a leader he hopes will change the world but ends up being a tyrant. He has been made the acolyte to Robespierre or to Lenin and realises they are not what he wants them to be. This will be his character arc and he will fall trying to correct his mistake and prevent the worst from happening. Careful observers will have noticed that Daenerys never claimed to make the world better. She said she would "take what is hers", "break the wheel", "ask from others more than any ever did". Jorah wants to believe in her "gentle heart", which she denies having, tells Tyrion she will rule well. Varys plants that seed too and Tyrion ends up believing in the possibility of ruling through her, of having her do what he thinks is right but all that well meaning is exclusively rooted in the fantasy of her followers. Her own speech is very different from that: In other words: "you are mine, do as I ask, kill my enemies, give me what I want, forever" - "Bend the knee". Take and break, this is what Daenerys really is about. they should have translated it that way..LOL and i remember Darrios face and look he had when she was giving her speech , i think it was fear.some fans said it was admiration. well everyone think dany will suffer a heroic death , jorah is over heels in love with her and in his eyes she cant do anything wrong he may be the one to take her out though in the end when he realizes she has gone mad ,cersei is a red herring in the madness story , cersei hasnt changed she has been the same way she was since season 1 , but dany has been transforming for tyrion or anyone close to her to betray her they will see signs she is going mad one big sign could be this rumored pregnancy , how did the targaryens go mad? because they mixed their blood lines she fell in love and slept with a targaryen and the pregnancy may drive her mad as i believe it did in first season too otherwise i cant explain her decision to have an enemy a witch treat khal drogo ,and then let her kill his horse thats madness. and for fans who think jon will never kill her because he cant do that to his own child..well once jon finds out who he is and what she is to him i hope he doesnt end up mad becuase i dont think jon who was raised by ned stark be ok with it they know the madness in the targryen bloodline he will be horrified in fact he may even suggest to kill her because he wont want to bring a child in this world who may become mad .someone will convince him to do it. |
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Post by Aj_June on Sept 11, 2018 23:02:46 GMT
Here is what Freaky Doctor has to say:
Youtube Q&A LEAKS
1-Tyrion is a traitor and will be judged
2- Jaime dies and Nikolai appears in 4 episodes
Twiter Q& A- Theories that are NOT happening
1.Gendry as legitimized King
2.Jonsa is not happening
4.Daenerys Death at Childbirth
5.Jon as new Night King
Personal theories based on set info and actors sightings: (may or may not be true)
*Jon and Dany on the Throne
*Gendry as Head of House Baratheon
*Yara survives and is Head of House Greyjoy
Rumors he is investigating and has no answer to give:
*All Dragons perishing
*Possible death of Sansa
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Post by Aj_June on Sept 11, 2018 23:03:29 GMT
Killing Tyrion is good but they should have also killed Jon.
It seems Jon survives.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Sept 12, 2018 2:07:39 GMT
Here is what Freaky Doctor has to say:
Personal theories based on set info and actors sightings: (may or may not be true) *Jon and Dany on the Throne *Gendry as Head of House Baratheon The guy's a moron. If he comes up with such "theories", none of what he deducts is to be given any value. Let's stick to what he states as facts. Tyrion being a traitor doesn't say from whom's point of view. He already is a traitor to Cersei for killing Tywin. Is there an explicit statement as to what he is charged with and who accuses him? Jaime dying is the necessary compensation for Cersei surviving without him. No happy end for anyone  And no cheering audience, as promised.  |
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Post by Aj_June on Sept 12, 2018 3:04:52 GMT
Leo of Red KeepFrom discussions on Freefolk reddit I gather that there is allegedly a meeting in which Arya, Sansa, Jon and Dany find Tyrion guilty of treason. So I think Tyrion's treason is supposedly against Jon and Dany. Now there may be two possible explanations if the leak is true: (1) Tyrion acted in the best interest of peace for all parties but Jon and co still find him guilty. This could be due to subjective ethics of Jon and Dany. It might be that Tyrion does something good and still has to suffer. (2) Tyrion deliberately does things in favour of Jon's opponents. May be Tyrion has a secret alliance with Cersei or he starts asserting his Lannister side. At the moment nothing is clear but if I had to guess I would agree that this leak may be true. So far I had distrusted all the leaks. Even if true the leak doesn't explain anything. It merely states certain things.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 15, 2018 11:57:19 GMT
Here is what Freaky Doctor has to say: Youtube Q&A LEAKS 1-Tyrion is a traitor and will be judged 2- Jaime dies and Nikolai appears in 4 episodes Twiter Q& A- Theories that are NOT happening 1.Gendry as legitimized King 2.Jonsa is not happening 4.Daenerys Death at Childbirth 5.Jon as new Night King
Personal theories based on set info and actors sightings: (may or may not be true) *Jon and Dany on the Throne *Gendry as Head of House Baratheon *Yara survives and is Head of House Greyjoy Rumors he is investigating and has no answer to give: *All Dragons perishing *Possible death of Sansa thank you AJ for those for the last couple days youtubers are going wild with speculation , i do believe tyrion will die but it seems everyone right now is making their own theories as how that is oging to happen and why just like we are speculating , sadly i did hear about sansa possible dying and they are saying in episode 4 jamie,sansa,bran possibly gendry die , and that sansa dies from poisonous arrow from the lannister army -which fits with the cersei posion theme , something she told sansa a while back that , love is like posin and will kill you or something like that , again this is a theory of a spoiler that came out of tyrion and they are saying jon will blame cersei for sanas death and she will be on trial and tyrion will speak up on her behalf not to kill her -and according to al these theories house stark dies .and they appear as dream sequence at dragonpit at the end with dany and jon as king and queen. |
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 15, 2018 12:08:15 GMT
Here is what Freaky Doctor has to say:
Personal theories based on set info and actors sightings: (may or may not be true) *Jon and Dany on the Throne *Gendry as Head of House Baratheon The guy's a moron. If he comes up with such "theories", none of what he deducts is to be given any value. Let's stick to what he states as facts. Tyrion being a traitor doesn't say from whom's point of view. He already is a traitor to Cersei for killing Tywin. Is there an explicit statement as to what he is charged with and who accuses him? Jaime dying is the necessary compensation for Cersei surviving without him. No happy end for anyone And no cheering audience, as promised. Leo i agree with that like i was telling AJ the spoiler about tyrion is making everyone crazy and theorizing ..lol and i think dr freaky is making his own and has changed a lot of what he said months ago regarding jonsa or sansa ,but i find it hard to believe an important character like jamie to be killed off at episode 4 ,also dr freaky from what i was told is a BIG daenyrys fan so he really wants her to survive in the end , according to some recent stuff i heard and read and wish i kept the links ill go find them later when i have some more time , so jamie heads north ,sansa , jamie, bran all get killed episode 4 -right there that is a bit too much all these major characters dying episode 4? i do not believe it , and supposedly sansa gets hit by a lannister poisoned arrow when they attack winterfell , sansa wont die right away but eventually she will from her wound , jon will blame cersei for her death , drogon as well gets wounded heavily or dies during the winterfell battle ,so jon and dany after this ride rhaegal to KL and they attack cersei they capture her , by this time euron is dead , and cersei will pin everything on euron that she didnt know what was happening it was all his idea , they put cersei in a cell and get this cersei demands a trial by combat , tyrion goes to her and tells her she will die , tyrion just like he did with jamie helps cersei escapes but before cersei goes she has wildfire and one of her people will blow up KL everything including the iron throne i mean everything , so last shot and scene of cersei will be on a ship sailing away sipping wine as she smiles....meanwhile tyrion will get blamed for all this someone will tell on him and what he did , and although jon doesnt want to do it he will be the one to behead tyrion ...then last scene a year after it shows KL being rebuild , dany and jon are getting married at dragonpit they will be king and queen of westeros , with jon holding their baby waving and the starks are present as ghosts in jons visions or something like that .LMAOF your thought? |
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maybe sansa gives the order to assassinate tyrion?