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Post by summers8 on Sept 15, 2018 7:20:48 GMT
How is summers8 a fanatic when everytime he makes an argument he backs it up with relevant sources like actors quotes, movie clips and directorial interviews? thanks. mcu fans dont know jack about movies. in fact let me back it up now with a movie clip of what separates LOTR from the MCU
what make this better than mcu
high stakes.
emotional depth
the quest to survive
no retarded jokes to dumb things down
a satisfying villian's death, a villain who was actually a threat.
Also, LOTR does not look like a cartoon.
this scene from LOTR is cgi heavy, yes. But I see the characters journey's more, I get emotional knowing middle earth is free at last from Saron. the story makes me believe it because of everything that has happened. that is what makes it an excellent movie. that is what separates it from MCU that is ''cool and fun''.
One word for mcu fans who tried to equate LOTR to MCU. Pathetic. The Hobbit trilogy is a better equation and as you see, critics and LOTR fans trashed those movies. so why don't they do so for MCU. the worst part ,is the hobbit movies are still better than MCU movies.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Sept 15, 2018 7:43:47 GMT
How is summers8 a fanatic when everytime he makes an argument he backs it up with relevant sources like actors quotes, movie clips and directorial interviews? thanks. mcu fans dont know jack about movies. in fact let me back it up now with a movie clip of what separates LOTR from the MCU
what make this better than mcu
high stakes.
emotional depth
the quest to survive
no retarded jokes to dumb things down
a satisfying villian's death, a villain who was actually a threat.
Also, LOTR does not look like a cartoon.
this scene from LOTR is cgi heavy, yes. But I see the characters journey's more, I get emotional knowing middle earth is free at last from Saron. the story makes me believe it because of everything that has happened. that is what makes it an excellent movie. that is what separates it from MCU that is ''cool and fun''.
One word for mcu fans who tried to equate LOTR to MCU. Pathetic. The Hobbit trilogy is a better equation and as you see, critics and LOTR fans trashed those movies. so why don't they do so for MCU. the worst part ,is the hobbit movies are still better than MCU movies.
Plus all of the character's lower lips quiver just so --- at the precisely needed moment of quivering.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 15, 2018 8:38:35 GMT
I would say that the Lord of the Rings trilogy is better than 99% of comic book movies in general.
Hell the books are definitely superior to anything Hollywood shits out.
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Post by summers8 on Sept 15, 2018 8:49:09 GMT
I would say that the Lord of the Rings trilogy is better than 99% of comic book movies in general. Hell the books are definitely superior to anything Hollywood shits out. And I just explained what makes LOTR better.
Let's wait for bud47, blockbusted and the rest of the mcu fanatics to give their own so called opinions that carries substance or is actually believable.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 15, 2018 10:20:09 GMT
I would say that the Lord of the Rings trilogy is better than 99% of comic book movies in general. Hell the books are definitely superior to anything Hollywood shits out. And I just explained what makes LOTR better.
Let's wait for bud47, blockbusted and the rest of the mcu fanatics to give their own so called opinions that carries substance or is actually believable. It also helps that he adapted a fantasy masterpiece and had the passion in his heart to see it done right. Shame he didn't have that passion for the Hobbit films, but that's what happens when you sellout. Seriously fuck Peter Jackson for what he did to the Hobbit. Anyway Tolkien > comics.
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Post by blockbusted on Sept 15, 2018 12:12:27 GMT
to those talking about Return of the King. please remember 1. LOTR is high fantasy..so there was need for tons of CGI, Also the cgi in LOTR where artistic unlike mcu movies and their generic cartoonish looking CGI that are neither artistic, imaginative or creative. 2. LOTR still had an excellent story, great performances , Gandalf, Sam, Aragorn, King Theodan. MCU movies have generic stories and their characters dont get to do much , we can't even take them seriously. see Thor and Hulk in Thor Jokenock. 3. Most importantly, the CGI is LOTR is used to already support the excellent story. it is not about looking ''cool''. MCU movies have none of these 3 factors. they are disney musical comedies. you cant compare that to LOTR. it's an epic fail. charzhino claimed that any film that relies heavily on CGI don’t deserve Best Picture. No, seriously, that was pretty much his claim, so don’t try to make excuses.
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Post by summers8 on Sept 15, 2018 15:12:54 GMT
to those talking about Return of the King. please remember 1. LOTR is high fantasy..so there was need for tons of CGI, Also the cgi in LOTR where artistic unlike mcu movies and their generic cartoonish looking CGI that are neither artistic, imaginative or creative. 2. LOTR still had an excellent story, great performances , Gandalf, Sam, Aragorn, King Theodan. MCU movies have generic stories and their characters dont get to do much , we can't even take them seriously. see Thor and Hulk in Thor Jokenock. 3. Most importantly, the CGI is LOTR is used to already support the excellent story. it is not about looking ''cool''. MCU movies have none of these 3 factors. they are disney musical comedies. you cant compare that to LOTR. it's an epic fail. charzhino claimed that any film that relies heavily on CGI don’t deserve Best Picture. No, seriously, that was pretty much his claim, so don’t try to make excuses. Then you must have misread or mis-thought what Charzhino said, proving mcu fans are the least educated people. there is nothing wrong with heavy cgi as long as there is a strong screenplay to go with it. Avatar is another example and why it could not win best picture when return of the king could. Avatar is a creative, imaginative heavy filled cgi movie but the screenplay and plot was weak. LOTR does not have a weak screenplay like Avatar has, or much worse mcu movies that barley have a plot and the worst of all, Disney dumbed down plot to appeal to kids first.
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Post by blockbusted on Sept 15, 2018 15:25:18 GMT
charzhino claimed that any film that relies heavily on CGI don’t deserve Best Picture. No, seriously, that was pretty much his claim, so don’t try to make excuses. Then you must have misread or mis-thought what Charzhino said, proving mcu fans are the least educated people. there is nothing wrong with heavy cgi as long as there is a strong screenplay to go with it. Avatar is another example and why it could not win best picture when return of the king could. Avatar is a creative, imaginative heavy filled cgi movie but the screenplay and plot was weak. LOTR does not have a weak screenplay like Avatar has, or much worse mcu movies that barley have a plot and the worst of all, Disney dumbed down plot to appeal to kids first. Doesn’t matter. His argument was that a film doesn’t have a storytelling merit if it’s filled with CGI, which aptly applies to ‘The Return of the King’.
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Post by summers8 on Sept 15, 2018 15:36:48 GMT
Then you must have misread or mis-thought what Charzhino said, proving mcu fans are the least educated people. there is nothing wrong with heavy cgi as long as there is a strong screenplay to go with it. Avatar is another example and why it could not win best picture when return of the king could. Avatar is a creative, imaginative heavy filled cgi movie but the screenplay and plot was weak. LOTR does not have a weak screenplay like Avatar has, or much worse mcu movies that barley have a plot and the worst of all, Disney dumbed down plot to appeal to kids first. Doesn’t matter. His argument was that a film doesn’t have a storytelling merit if it’s filled with CGI, which aptly applies to ‘The Return of the King’. LOL, Are you still calling me mentally retarded?
Hm, I was right when I said mcu fans are the least educated people. they cant understand what makes LOTR different from mcu movies. those are people who never made it past their freshman year of high school.
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Post by blockbusted on Sept 15, 2018 15:51:53 GMT
Doesn’t matter. His argument was that a film doesn’t have a storytelling merit if it’s filled with CGI, which aptly applies to ‘The Return of the King’. LOL, Are you still calling me mentally retarded?
Hm, I was right when I said mcu fans are the least educated people. they cant understand what makes LOTR different from mcu movies. those are people who never made it past their freshman year of high school.
1. I’ve never said that any MCU film is on par with ‘The Return of the King’ and I never will. That doesn’t suddenly make the film less-CGI heavy. 2. You seem to be under some sort of delusion that all Best Picture nominees have similar qualities. 3. I graduated from university. Granted, it’s just a Bachelor’s degree, but that’s still better than dropping out from high school, which doesn’t apply to me either.
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Post by dazz on Sept 15, 2018 16:37:08 GMT
How is summers8 a fanatic when everytime he makes an argument he backs it up with relevant sources like actors quotes, movie clips and directorial interviews? fanatic /fəˈnatɪk/
noun noun: fanatic; plural noun: fanatics
1. a person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal, especially for an extreme religious or political cause.
Ever hear the phrase just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you?
It's the extreme and single mindedness that makes the fanatical fanatics, not whether they may be right, wrong, alone or not, he can find stuff to back his claims, ok but others can do the same, the fact he will ignore anything that contradicts his stance and only observe what benefits his outlook is part of why he is a fanatic, you can agree with one also but not share their fanatical nature.
Also just because others share an opinion doesn't make it fact, something he fails to recognise, and he seems dementedly insistent that everyone must think and feel exactly like him, he's not just a fanatic he's an arsehole a lot of the time as well.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 15, 2018 16:41:55 GMT
This thread just inspired me to create a poll that may cause some controversy.
Stay tuned, kids!
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Post by summers8 on Sept 15, 2018 17:39:54 GMT
This thread just inspired me to create a poll that may cause some controversy. Stay tuned, kids! remember mcu fan vote that said 96% infinity war was better than logan. wont worry much.
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Post by blockbusted on Sept 15, 2018 18:23:44 GMT
This thread just inspired me to create a poll that may cause some controversy. Stay tuned, kids! remember mcu fan vote that said 96% infinity war was better than logan. wont worry much. With this level of gibberish, I’m really starting to wonder if you’re a closeted Flat Earther.
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Post by summers8 on Sept 16, 2018 10:02:18 GMT
How is summers8 a fanatic when everytime he makes an argument he backs it up with relevant sources like actors quotes, movie clips and directorial interviews? Why do you always have his back? I mean I get that you both hate the MCU with a passion, but still... You'd think you'd want to keep better company. He's a fanatic. His point of view is so biased and one-sided and he seems to be on some sort of mission just like he was on the old boards to somehow bring down the MCU by venting continuously like a crazy person. How his toxic behavior is allowed to continue here while others seem to be banned for less is beyond me. how did I miss this. Disney is a better company? how factually so.
you mean the company that has just destroyed spiderman, star wars and marvel cartoons and marvel's entire reputation?
You have yet to name and prove any mcu movie better than Logan, DOFP or X2. comic fans opinion favour this movies more since many comic fans knows what goes into making a good film.
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Post by summers8 on Sept 16, 2018 10:06:38 GMT
remember mcu fan vote that said 96% infinity war was better than logan. wont worry much. With this level of gibberish, I’m really starting to wonder if you’re a closeted Flat Earther. the earth is round. fact.
mcu movies are poorly made. fact.
Reasons disney has to buy oscars and critics for the mcu. its like elle woods boyfriend from legally blond. he could not get into Harvard law school, so his parents bought him in.
wonder woman is elle wood. beautiful, determined and smart and proves herself on her own terms. no buy out.
black panther is her boyfriend.
spoilers: elle dumps him.
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Post by sostie on Sept 16, 2018 11:47:19 GMT
With this level of gibberish, I’m really starting to wonder if you’re a closeted Flat Earther. the earth is round. fact.
mcu movies are poorly made. fact.
Reasons disney has to buy oscars and critics for the mcu. its like elle woods boyfriend from legally blond. he could not get into Harvard law school, so his parents bought him in.
wonder woman is elle wood. beautiful, determined and smart and proves herself on her own terms. no buy out.
black panther is her boyfriend.
spoilers: elle dumps him.
The similarities between you and DC-Fan are uncanny....not only the blind hatred for a film franchise, and the constant need to express it even when not required/requested/relevant...but you seem prone to really shit analogies as well.
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Post by dazz on Sept 16, 2018 13:40:20 GMT
Why do you always have his back? I mean I get that you both hate the MCU with a passion, but still... You'd think you'd want to keep better company. He's a fanatic. His point of view is so biased and one-sided and he seems to be on some sort of mission just like he was on the old boards to somehow bring down the MCU by venting continuously like a crazy person. How his toxic behavior is allowed to continue here while others seem to be banned for less is beyond me. how did I miss this. Disney is a better company? how factually so.
you mean the company that has just destroyed spiderman, star wars and marvel cartoons and marvel's entire reputation?
You have yet to name and prove any mcu movie better than Logan, DOFP or X2. comic fans opinion favour this movies more since many comic fans knows what goes into making a good film.
DOFP has one of the biggest and dumbest plot fuck ups in all of cbm's, how does a surface level shapeshifting ability translate into power mimicking? also how is she the key mutant? her powers are lame, she only alters her appearance, her smell, strength, durability even DNA remain the same, that's how Wolverine can smell she's a fake in X1, and why he can cut through her claws when she shifts into him, her ability can mimic the appearance of others powers to a limited sense but not replicate them, and she has at best mild regenerative powers, nothing compared to Logan's which would be perfect to adapt into a self restoring robot, regenerative powers strong enough to regenerate even when utterly dismantled.
Also going by RT's fan scores DOFP has a 4.3/5 score and a 91% freshness rating, IW has a 4.5 score and 91% fresh rating, TWS has a 4.3 score also but a 92% freshness, Logan has a 4.3 at 90% freshness, X2 has 3.7 at 85% freshness, GOTG has 4.4 at a 92% freshness, again these are voted on by fans not critics.
And LMFAO at comic fans know what makes a good movie, no they don't, not anymore than any other arbitrary group of people, lots of comicbook fans don't have a clue, their so wrapped up in the comics they shit their pants if things aren't exactly like they think they should, they are less about quality and more about fan fulfilment, now some do know more about what makes a good movie, but even if they do they can also still have their blinders on, the amount of hardcore comic fans who loved BP and see no fault in that movie outside the special effects is astounding, same for Wonder Woman, because those films gave the fans something they wanted so bad, be it a major female cbm treated seriously, being sold as the first and only female led cbm despite that being a blatant lie, or the first non white led comic book movie, again BS because we have had several of those, several successful ones mind you, comic fans are still just fans and can be easily swept up in mania, or you know hey these movies just hit that sweet spot for them for whatever reason and they can block out the negatives, just bec ause they are comic fans don't mean fucking shit.
Jesus you are a stupid pile of crap.
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Post by summers8 on Sept 16, 2018 14:03:02 GMT
Typical for mcu fans, I almost stop reading this dumbness when they said mystique's powers are lame even though according to science she has the best powers for a female characters and a top 3 or 5 super powers ever backed by real science research.
now if you rewatch the film. the movie never said her powers were the power milking, it said it gave them the keys of transformation and they took it from there with more science, I think this is why if you rewatch the movie. you see the dead mutants, eg emma who was experimented upon and one of the sentinels had her powers. the sentinels were made from a combination of many things...poor loltron...oh sorry Ultron. his real ambition was to be like a Sentinel but disney dumbed him down.
see..you are the least educated fanbase, you cant even understand the dialogue of compelling movies.
Her claws are fake.
But also remember the strength of DOFP is not even the fantasy comic book element, it is the story telling, drama, depth, themes and performances that makes it exceptional..Called the best comic films since tdk as of 2014 until logan topped it. poor winter solider as usual.
So what is the real rt score of mcu movies once you take away the 15-30% inflation. as said, the less than 5% of mcu fans that still use RT needs the oscar for best picture. afterall Black Panther is the highest rated rt movie. LOL. pathetic mcu fans go back to rt defence. because jokenock that has nothing to do wIth Ragnarok is a credible rt review..dumB fun. what a joke. like the movie..
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Post by dazz on Sept 16, 2018 14:43:43 GMT
Typical for mcu fans, I almost stop reading this dumbness when they said mystique's powers are lame even though according to science she has the best powers for a female characters and a top 3 or 5 super powers ever backed by real science research.
now if you rewatch the film. the movie never said her powers were the power milking, it said it gave them the keys of transformation and they took it from there with more science, I think this is why if you rewatch the movie. you see the dead mutants, eg emma who was experimented upon and one of the sentinels had her powers. the sentinels were made from a combination of many things...poor loltron...oh sorry Ultron. his real ambition was to be like a Sentinel but disney dumbed him down.
see..you are the least educated fanbase, you cant even understand the dialogue of compelling movies.
Her claws are fake.
But also remember the strength of DOFP is not even the fantasy comic book element, it is the story telling, drama, depth, themes and performances that makes it exceptional..Called the best comic films since tdk as of 2014 until logan topped it. poor winter solider as usual.
So what is the real rt score of mcu movies once you take away the 15-30% inflation. as said, the less than 5% of mcu fans that still use RT needs the oscar for best picture. afterall Black Panther is the highest rated rt movie. LOL. pathetic mcu fans go back to rt defence. because jokenock that has nothing to do wIth Ragnarok is a credible rt review..dumB fun. what a joke. like the movie..
Actually they say in her DNA they found the secret to her transformation, and through that the key to adapting to any mutant ability, this isn't part of her gift, her powers are surface level, what she is when in another form is no more powerful, or durable than she is in her normal form, how does transforming their appearance give sentinels the key to adapting to mutant powers exactly?
Her powers aren't that great either, it's replicated in the comics and on shows loads of time via tech, an image inducer/hologram achieves the same thing, she cant hid her mutant dna, she cant fool dogs or mutants with heightened sense of smell, the only benefit her power has over an inducer is she can bypass hand & iris scanners, hardly the best superpower ever.
And what are you rambling about at the end again, oh yeah MCU scores cannot be trusted only XCU scores are real...right, that's why the MCU is the largest film franchise in history and X-Men aren't even in the top 5, because no one actually likes the MCU right? twat.
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