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Post by summers8 on Sept 16, 2018 15:25:04 GMT
Typical for mcu fans, I almost stop reading this dumbness when they said mystique's powers are lame even though according to science she has the best powers for a female characters and a top 3 or 5 super powers ever backed by real science research.
now if you rewatch the film. the movie never said her powers were the power milking, it said it gave them the keys of transformation and they took it from there with more science, I think this is why if you rewatch the movie. you see the dead mutants, eg emma who was experimented upon and one of the sentinels had her powers. the sentinels were made from a combination of many things...poor loltron...oh sorry Ultron. his real ambition was to be like a Sentinel but disney dumbed him down.
see..you are the least educated fanbase, you cant even understand the dialogue of compelling movies.
Her claws are fake.
But also remember the strength of DOFP is not even the fantasy comic book element, it is the story telling, drama, depth, themes and performances that makes it exceptional..Called the best comic films since tdk as of 2014 until logan topped it. poor winter solider as usual.
So what is the real rt score of mcu movies once you take away the 15-30% inflation. as said, the less than 5% of mcu fans that still use RT needs the oscar for best picture. afterall Black Panther is the highest rated rt movie. LOL. pathetic mcu fans go back to rt defence. because jokenock that has nothing to do wIth Ragnarok is a credible rt review..dumB fun. what a joke. like the movie..
Actually they say in her DNA they found the secret to her transformation, and through that the key to adapting to any mutant ability, this isn't part of her gift, her powers are surface level, what she is when in another form is no more powerful, or durable than she is in her normal form, how does transforming their appearance give sentinels the key to adapting to mutant powers exactly?
Her powers aren't that great either, it's replicated in the comics and on shows loads of time via tech, an image inducer/hologram achieves the same thing, she cant hid her mutant dna, she cant fool dogs or mutants with heightened sense of smell, the only benefit her power has over an inducer is she can bypass hand & iris scanners, hardly the best superpower ever.
And what are you rambling about at the end again, oh yeah MCU scores cannot be trusted only XCU scores are real...right, that's why the MCU is the largest film franchise in history and X-Men aren't even in the top 5, because no one actually likes the MCU right? twat.
From the transcript: Xavier: They captured her that day. Tortured her. Experimented on her. In her DNA they discovered the secrets to her powers of transformation. It gave them the key they needed to create weapons that could adapt to any mutant power and the result is the machines that have destroyed so many of our kind were created and it all started that day in 1973. And later in the past: Trask: This creature is extraordinary. Her genes could hold the key to mutation itself. I need more. Agent: That's all they were able to scrape off the pavement in Paris. Trask: More than blood. I need brain tissue, spinal fluid, bone marrow.
They didn't just copy her powers. They researched. They Experimented. They expanded what it could do. Same thing Apocalypse and Mr. Sinister and pretty much anyone in the Marvel Mutant universe has done to the X-Gene. Mystique, in the comics also had secondary mutations. It allowed to to gain a healing factor, mass-shift, morph into non-living things, and in X-Men Evolutions she could even transform into a Murder of Crows. She's basically biologically immortal. The comic Mystique is well over 100 years old, without any signs of aging. Also consider, her DNA caused Hank to turn into the Beast. The power of the transformation wasn't just cosmetic or an illusion, Hank is physically changed.
They started with Mystiques cosmetic transformation, and using that, learned how to transform more of the genome, unlocking the rest of the X-Gene's power, which is to transform and adapt under (evolutionary) pressure. She's the starting point, not the final destination.
Additionally, remember that Trask has experimented on other mutants as well. When Mystique breaks into his office, she sees file after file detailing what has been done. The Sentinels are combinations of multiple mutant powers, with Mystique's power allowing the Sentinel to change when needed. The more mutants the Sentinels captured, the more that were experimented on, the more powers they could adapt.
Keep in mind, there are multiple types of Sentinels. In the DOFP time line, we see the first, Mark I sentinels, and the last, Mark X sentinels. There's a steady progression of technological changes between that time. They didn't immediately jump to the shape-shifting sentinels.
o..ho. I hope it was not too complex for you....poor winter solder as usual in 2014. could only manage a generic spy movie that skyfall did better in 2012
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Post by dazz on Sept 16, 2018 16:47:41 GMT
Actually they say in her DNA they found the secret to her transformation, and through that the key to adapting to any mutant ability, this isn't part of her gift, her powers are surface level, what she is when in another form is no more powerful, or durable than she is in her normal form, how does transforming their appearance give sentinels the key to adapting to mutant powers exactly?
Her powers aren't that great either, it's replicated in the comics and on shows loads of time via tech, an image inducer/hologram achieves the same thing, she cant hid her mutant dna, she cant fool dogs or mutants with heightened sense of smell, the only benefit her power has over an inducer is she can bypass hand & iris scanners, hardly the best superpower ever.
And what are you rambling about at the end again, oh yeah MCU scores cannot be trusted only XCU scores are real...right, that's why the MCU is the largest film franchise in history and X-Men aren't even in the top 5, because no one actually likes the MCU right? twat.
From the transcript: Xavier: They captured her that day. Tortured her. Experimented on her. In her DNA they discovered the secrets to her powers of transformation. It gave them the key they needed to create weapons that could adapt to any mutant power and the result is the machines that have destroyed so many of our kind were created and it all started that day in 1973. And later in the past: Trask: This creature is extraordinary. Her genes could hold the key to mutation itself. I need more. Agent: That's all they were able to scrape off the pavement in Paris. Trask: More than blood. I need brain tissue, spinal fluid, bone marrow.
They didn't just copy her powers. They researched. They Experimented. They expanded what it could do. Same thing Apocalypse and Mr. Sinister and pretty much anyone in the Marvel Mutant universe has done to the X-Gene. Mystique, in the comics also had secondary mutations. It allowed to to gain a healing factor, mass-shift, morph into non-living things, and in X-Men Evolutions she could even transform into a Murder of Crows. She's basically biologically immortal. The comic Mystique is well over 100 years old, without any signs of aging. Also consider, her DNA caused Hank to turn into the Beast. The power of the transformation wasn't just cosmetic or an illusion, Hank is physically changed.
They started with Mystiques cosmetic transformation, and using that, learned how to transform more of the genome, unlocking the rest of the X-Gene's power, which is to transform and adapt under (evolutionary) pressure. She's the starting point, not the final destination.
Additionally, remember that Trask has experimented on other mutants as well. When Mystique breaks into his office, she sees file after file detailing what has been done. The Sentinels are combinations of multiple mutant powers, with Mystique's power allowing the Sentinel to change when needed. The more mutants the Sentinels captured, the more that were experimented on, the more powers they could adapt.
Keep in mind, there are multiple types of Sentinels. In the DOFP time line, we see the first, Mark I sentinels, and the last, Mark X sentinels. There's a steady progression of technological changes between that time. They didn't immediately jump to the shape-shifting sentinels.
o..ho. I hope it was not too complex for you....poor winter solder as usual in 2014. could only manage a generic spy movie that skyfall did better in 2012
Oh whatever fuckwit you are boring me now, just go back to sucking the X-cock you love so much, thanks though you have piqued my interest im going to go and watch the X-films because guess what retard, I don't hate them I just don't fellate them mercilessly like you, you utter plank.
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Post by bud47 on Sept 16, 2018 16:47:57 GMT
Why do you always have his back? I mean I get that you both hate the MCU with a passion, but still... You'd think you'd want to keep better company. He's a fanatic. His point of view is so biased and one-sided and he seems to be on some sort of mission just like he was on the old boards to somehow bring down the MCU by venting continuously like a crazy person. How his toxic behavior is allowed to continue here while others seem to be banned for less is beyond me. how did I miss this. Disney is a better company? how factually so.
you mean the company that has just destroyed spiderman, star wars and marvel cartoons and marvel's entire reputation?
You have yet to name and prove any mcu movie better than Logan, DOFP or X2. comic fans opinion favour this movies more since many comic fans knows what goes into making a good film.
Wow, you really are a special kind of stupid, aren't you? You completely misinterpreted what I said.
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Post by summers8 on Sept 16, 2018 17:15:10 GMT
how did I miss this. Disney is a better company? how factually so.
you mean the company that has just destroyed spiderman, star wars and marvel cartoons and marvel's entire reputation?
You have yet to name and prove any mcu movie better than Logan, DOFP or X2. comic fans opinion favour this movies more since many comic fans knows what goes into making a good film.
Wow, you really are a special kind of stupid, aren't you? You completely misinterpreted what I said. thatguy and bud come to the boards at the same time.
can we talk of stupid mcu xmen? you know the mcu xmen that will have jokes and dance off , no drama that can rival logan or tdk? or is it too early?
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Post by bud47 on Sept 16, 2018 17:27:57 GMT
Wow, you really are a special kind of stupid, aren't you? You completely misinterpreted what I said. thatguy and bud come to the boards at the same time.
can we talk of stupid mcu xmen? you know the mcu xmen that will have jokes and dance off , no drama that can rival logan or tdk? or is it too early? What are you implying? And what are you trying to accomplish here? The Fox-Men are a thing of the past. There's nothing you can do to change that now. These rage-posts of yours are pointless. Are you really this insecure? The MCU's success has really done a number on you, hasn't it? I'm just so happy the X-Men are coming home. Now we get to watch you decline mentally and emotionally for years to come as you rage at the sky.
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Post by summers8 on Sept 16, 2018 17:52:45 GMT
thatguy and bud come to the boards at the same time.
can we talk of stupid mcu xmen? you know the mcu xmen that will have jokes and dance off , no drama that can rival logan or tdk? or is it too early? What are you implying? And what are you trying to accomplish here? The Fox-Men are a thing of the past. There's nothing you can do to change that now. These rage-posts of yours are pointless. Are you really this insecure? The MCU's success has really done a number on you, hasn't it? I'm just so happy the X-Men are coming home. Now we get to watch you decline mentally and emotionally for years to come as you rage at the sky. home?
when did disney create xmen?
what has become of marvel under disney? comics, movies, games,animation?
George Lucas was bold enough to say disney were slave masters and he felt like a parent selling star wars to them to become slaves. we see the result of disney star wars today, he was right.
what is actually home when disney cannot adapt xmen stories?
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Post by bud47 on Sept 16, 2018 18:56:53 GMT
What are you implying? And what are you trying to accomplish here? The Fox-Men are a thing of the past. There's nothing you can do to change that now. These rage-posts of yours are pointless. Are you really this insecure? The MCU's success has really done a number on you, hasn't it? I'm just so happy the X-Men are coming home. Now we get to watch you decline mentally and emotionally for years to come as you rage at the sky. home?
when did disney create xmen?
what has become of marvel under disney? comics, movies, games,animation?
George Lucas was bold enough to say disney were slave masters and he felt like a parent selling star wars to them to become slaves. we see the result of disney star wars today, he was right.
what is actually home when disney cannot adapt xmen stories?
The MCU has made you lose your mind. The reward that keeps on giving. Keep it coming.
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Post by summers8 on Sept 16, 2018 19:29:07 GMT
home?
when did disney create xmen?
what has become of marvel under disney? comics, movies, games,animation?
George Lucas was bold enough to say disney were slave masters and he felt like a parent selling star wars to them to become slaves. we see the result of disney star wars today, he was right.
what is actually home when disney cannot adapt xmen stories?
The MCU has made you lose your mind. The reward that keeps on giving. Keep it coming. ah yes, no question answered....AGAIN did you know that is you way of admiting mcu is garbage?
More obsessed talking about me and not xmen.
lol...disney created xmen. thank goodnes for real xmen fans that know their xmen history. that is the death of mcu xmen already. STAR WARS is proof.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Sept 17, 2018 9:04:53 GMT
and you cannot touch that ipod, I guess, and burden of prove rules thus do not apply, because of apples? How convenient.
For the record you make a good point comparing LotR3 (as veritable battle porn film) with other clobber efforts, but ruin it with a straw man: Nobody seriously asserted that the MCU films should not win Best Film because of CGI overuse. That has nothing to do with best film, but is a vapid graphic whore argument.
Charzino said: "There is no storytelling merit when a movie is filled by 90% of CGI fighting." But that statement does not lead into "no CGI heavy film should win best picture Oscar". The emphasis of the argument seems "storytelling merit in relation to fight percentage" not so much HOW the fighting is put into picture.
And that just boils down to your guy's opinion that you don't think Black Panther has any story. Fair enough, but the general consensus doesn't agree with that. no, not fair enough, seahick. Show me where I said that. You are babbling again sans any reading comprehension.
Lol, at this point you are just too obtuse to realize how dumb you are. But if you believe it, it's at least not a lie.
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Post by summers8 on Sept 17, 2018 13:35:04 GMT
if black panther gets any thing, I bet the hard core fans will leave the board for a while. you know to spare themselves further embarrassment and backlash.
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Post by bud47 on Sept 17, 2018 14:35:57 GMT
if black panther gets any thing, I bet the hard core fans will leave the board for a while. you know to spare themselves further embarrassment and backlash. Don't you feel a little ashamed and embarrassed knowing that you have let the MCU and their success apparently ruin your life? You must recognize on some level that this unhealthy obsession of yours with something that you don't even like seems to have consumed you to the point of insanity. Is it really worth it? These are nothing but comic book films. Ask yourself why and get some help if you need it.
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Post by summers8 on Sept 17, 2018 17:29:04 GMT
if black panther gets any thing, I bet the hard core fans will leave the board for a while. you know to spare themselves further embarrassment and backlash. Don't you feel a little ashamed and embarrassed knowing that you have let the MCU and their success apparently ruin your life? You must recognize on some level that this unhealthy obsession of yours with something that you don't even like seems to have consumed you to the point of insanity. Is it really worth it? These are nothing but comic book films. Ask yourself why and get some help if you need it. the question goes to mcu fans, clearly mcu is not successful enough, if they were their fans wont give a shit about spiderman or xmen having their own universe . wonder if it is worth it to have socks?
notice you always try to deflate the topic? make it about me..not mcu movies or xmen movies? so you are ashamed of mcu movies? Hm, wonder who gets embarrassed for saying the truth.. you know what is embarrassing? you not knowing or telling us how mcu will adapt xmen stories to film.
You know mcu xmen is dead long before it lived when their fans can't discus it, good thing the genre died first.
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Post by summers8 on Sept 17, 2018 17:31:46 GMT
And that just boils down to your guy's opinion that you don't think Black Panther has any story. Fair enough, but the general consensus doesn't agree with that. no, not fair enough, seahick. Show me where I said that. You are babbling again sans any reading comprehension.
Lol, at this point you are just too obtuse to realize how dumb you are. But if you believe it, it's at least not a lie.
I seem to notice mcu fans like to pick fights with people. does it not prove their is nothing to their films.
we true marvel and dc fans even lowered the bar for them with first class or Begins and mcu fans still have nothing.
look at the attacks to defend BP.
Who argued with us when we said Logan and TDK deserved Oscars recognition.lol that is merit.
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Post by bud47 on Sept 17, 2018 17:49:07 GMT
Don't you feel a little ashamed and embarrassed knowing that you have let the MCU and their success apparently ruin your life? You must recognize on some level that this unhealthy obsession of yours with something that you don't even like seems to have consumed you to the point of insanity. Is it really worth it? These are nothing but comic book films. Ask yourself why and get some help if you need it. the question goes to mcu fans, clearly mcu is not successful enough, if they were their fans wont give a shit about spiderman or xmen having their own universe . wonder if it is worth it to have socks?
notice you always try to deflate the topic? make it about me..not mcu movies or xmen movies? so you are ashamed of mcu movies? Hm, wonder who gets embarrassed for saying the truth.. you know what is embarrassing? you not knowing or telling us how mcu will adapt xmen stories to film.
You know mcu xmen is dead long before it lived when their fans can't discus it, good thing the genre died first.
Why do you always try avoid the very serious issue you obviously have? Ignoring it will not make it go away. Are you afraid of getting help? An MCU X-Men movie is years away. Are you seriously going to keep this up till then? Here's an idea. Go crawl into a ball, pop a xanax and watch X2 or DOFP for the 1000th time so that you don't give yourself an anxiety attack.
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Post by summers8 on Sept 18, 2018 1:30:17 GMT
the question goes to mcu fans, clearly mcu is not successful enough, if they were their fans wont give a shit about spiderman or xmen having their own universe . wonder if it is worth it to have socks?
notice you always try to deflate the topic? make it about me..not mcu movies or xmen movies? so you are ashamed of mcu movies? Hm, wonder who gets embarrassed for saying the truth.. you know what is embarrassing? you not knowing or telling us how mcu will adapt xmen stories to film.
You know mcu xmen is dead long before it lived when their fans can't discus it, good thing the genre died first.
Why do you always try avoid the very serious issue you obviously have? Ignoring it will not make it go away. Are you afraid of getting help? An MCU X-Men movie is years away. Are you seriously going to keep this up till then? Here's an idea. Go crawl into a ball, pop a xanax and watch X2 or DOFP for the 1000th time so that you don't give yourself an anxiety attack. so the Jack Phoenix's joker movie would likely drew inspiration form the classic allen scott's killing joke.what xmen storyline can disney mcu tackle with their jokey light hearted formula? that is a serious issue, that mcu fans always try to avoid. mcu xmen is years away but the genre is dead now so when it is out no one will care. notice how mcu fans love to say mcu plans ahead and no what they are doing but their fans can't give any prediction about mcu xmen?lol
once again, try and deflect and make it about me. not xmen.
hm, X2 and DOFP adapted from god loves man kills and DOFP, made the comic stories proud, can we say the same about thor jokenock? can mcu disney make X2 and DOFP?
Simple questions, mcu fans cant answer.yawn.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Sept 18, 2018 1:36:26 GMT
Why do you always try avoid the very serious issue you obviously have? Ignoring it will not make it go away. Are you afraid of getting help? An MCU X-Men movie is years away. Are you seriously going to keep this up till then? Here's an idea. Go crawl into a ball, pop a xanax and watch X2 or DOFP for the 1000th time so that you don't give yourself an anxiety attack. so the Jack Phoenix's joker movie would likely drew inspiration form the classic allen scott's killing joke.what xmen storyline can disney mcu tackle with their jokey light hearted formula? that is a serious issue, that mcu fans always try to avoid. mcu xmen is years away but the genre is dead now so when it is out no one will care. notice how mcu fans love to say mcu plans ahead and no what they are doing but their fans can't give any prediction about mcu xmen?lol
once again, try and deflect and make it about me. not xmen.
hm, X2 and DOFP adapted from god loves man kills and DOFP, made the comic stories proud, can we say the same about thor jokenock? can mcu disney make X2 and DOFP?
Simple questions, mcu fans cant answer.yawn.
You on meds?
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Post by summers8 on Sept 18, 2018 2:04:41 GMT
so the Jack Phoenix's joker movie would likely drew inspiration form the classic allen scott's killing joke.what xmen storyline can disney mcu tackle with their jokey light hearted formula? that is a serious issue, that mcu fans always try to avoid. mcu xmen is years away but the genre is dead now so when it is out no one will care. notice how mcu fans love to say mcu plans ahead and no what they are doing but their fans can't give any prediction about mcu xmen?lol
once again, try and deflect and make it about me. not xmen.
hm, X2 and DOFP adapted from god loves man kills and DOFP, made the comic stories proud, can we say the same about thor jokenock? can mcu disney make X2 and DOFP?
Simple questions, mcu fans cant answer.yawn.
You on meds? yawn..so this is the best mcu fanatics can do. like their movies their replies lack real substance.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Sept 18, 2018 2:30:00 GMT
yawn..so this is the best mcu fanatics can do. like their movies their replies lack real substance.
Corrections, are you off your meds?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 13:51:33 GMT
yawn..so this is the best mcu fanatics can do. like their movies their replies lack real substance.
How's this for a reply? Go, prick thy face, and over-red thy fear, Thou lily-liver’d boy.
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