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Post by summers8 on Sept 16, 2018 18:28:19 GMT
So one person brought up rt again and it got me thinking about marvel, DC and xmen. I have to ask If I was to assume thor 3 is the best marvel movie according to RT, I have excluded black panther for obvious reason and to keet it fair wonder woman. I am curious.
TDK- best dc movie. A, movie called the dark knight. the movie represents why it has that name. brutal, dark, girtty, Nolansque, heavy, the price bruce's pays to be batman...all this is where the acclaim came from.
Logan.-best xmen movie. a fantastic character study movie of 3 characters at certain stages in their life. Xavier dealing with dementia, darm. a modern great western, the title is taken from the death of wolverine and old man logan comics, in an attempt to simplify the mutant character..he is just him..Logan.
a movie that shows, the loss of a child's innocence, the harshness of war, the outcome of prejudice and hatred, depth, the quest to survive, . it eared acclaimed for this. becoming the closest thing we ever got to an oscar nom for best picture when it comes to comics films based on merit.
Then you have Thor Ragnarök. in the comics, Ragnarök is sad story of welfare of war and the Armageddon like LOTR but the movie does the opposite becoming a joke....a parody? gotg 2.0.
is this a glitch for the mcu?
how can DC and xmen have their most acclaimed movie follow the rules of the stories and comics and get it right but mcu most acclaimed is basically the total opposite and a parody of what the name represented?can someone explain this to me or is this a critical glitch? we know to put thor in the same level as logan and tdk is laughable. even some hard core mcu fans agree to that . so how can the most ''acclaimed'' mcu movie be jokey and a parody to the excellent drama of logan and tdk that are dc and xmen's most acclaimed movie? um, I rather stick to winter slider for mcu's own sake.
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Sept 16, 2018 18:33:12 GMT
Iron Man 1 is higher than Ragnarok on RT.
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Post by summers8 on Sept 16, 2018 19:00:36 GMT
Iron Man 1 is higher than Ragnarok on RT. apparently there is some updated stuff or something.
as said, i rather to stick winter solider and their most acclaimed based on merit .iron man is more suitable than thor 3.
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Post by politicidal on Sept 16, 2018 22:44:34 GMT
Perhaps the reason for excluding Black Panther isn't so obvious. Care to share with us? I am curious.
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Post by hobowar on Sept 16, 2018 23:08:41 GMT
Perhaps the reason for excluding Black Panther isn't so obvious. Care to share with us? I am curious. He hates black people. |
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Post by scabab on Sept 17, 2018 0:15:45 GMT
That was very difficult to read through the grammar, I'd double check your posts before you submit them so it's more clear.
As for what you're trying to say, the movies aren't reviewed based on the accuracy to the comic, if they're good movies then they'll get good scores.
All three of those movies were good, all three were different and all three got great reviews.
You're also just looking at the percentage figure. Going by the average score The Dark Knight has a 8.6/10 and Thor Ragnarok has a 7.5/10 so the latter is rated nearly as highly.
The Avengers has an 8/10 so that's the highest rated anyway.
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Post by Skaathar on Sept 17, 2018 1:46:06 GMT
If you're removing BP and WW from the comparisons due to "reasons" then you should also remove TDK and Logan because they also suffered from "reasons".
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Post by summers8 on Sept 17, 2018 3:06:38 GMT
Perhaps the reason for excluding Black Panther isn't so obvious. Care to share with us? I am curious. well we know race played a part in it. it is hardly a real score. and as I said, i kept if fair by excluding wonder woman since both movies are not the noms though the race stuff for BP was overplayed compared to wonder woman.
but is strange isnt, that the so called most acclaimed mcu movie is a joke and a parody compared to the serious source material, gets more weird when you look at the most acclaimed dc and xmen movies, logan and tdk.
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Post by summers8 on Sept 17, 2018 3:12:19 GMT
That was very difficult to read through the grammar, I'd double check your posts before you submit them so it's more clear. As for what you're trying to say, the movies aren't reviewed based on the accuracy to the comic, if they're good movies then they'll get good scores. All three of those movies were good, all three were different and all three got great reviews. You're also just looking at the percentage figure. Going by the average score The Dark Knight has a 8.6/10 and Thor Ragnarok has a 7.5/10 so the latter is rated nearly as highly. The Avengers has an 8/10 so that's the highest rated anyway. rt was updated , remember when dc fans used to say wonder woman was the highest rated rt movie?
even if it was avengers, still weird as avengers is a fun comedy movie though not a parody like thor 3.
great reviews but the content of the reviews are what i am talking about.
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Post by summers8 on Sept 17, 2018 3:17:47 GMT
If you're removing BP and WW from the comparisons due to "reasons" then you should also remove TDK and Logan because they also suffered from "reasons". No they didn't and even if It did, that means it will go down to TDKR and DOFP. both movies also praised form been compelling dramas, with depth. thor 3 will still be silly jokey parody.
Infact thor 3 will get into more trouble when you put it against DOFP since DOFP followed the content and tone of the comics and is not a joke or a parody of the 1981 comics like Ragrarok is a joke and a parody of the comics and norse mythology.
logan and tdk have white males, so they did not suffer from anything. once again, mcu fans grasping for straws to defend why your medicore jokey movies are getting so called good reviews for been dumb.
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Post by politicidal on Sept 17, 2018 3:22:39 GMT
Perhaps the reason for excluding Black Panther isn't so obvious. Care to share with us? I am curious. well we know race played a part in it. it is hardly a real score. and as I said, i kept if fair by excluding wonder woman since both movies are not the noms though the race stuff for BP was overplayed compared to wonder woman.
but is strange isnt, that the so called most acclaimed mcu movie is a joke and a parody compared to the serious source material, gets more weird when you look at the most acclaimed dc and xmen movies, logan and tdk.
If that was the case, we'd be on Blade 12 by now. |
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Post by summers8 on Sept 17, 2018 3:29:22 GMT
well we know race played a part in it. it is hardly a real score. and as I said, i kept if fair by excluding wonder woman since both movies are not the noms though the race stuff for BP was overplayed compared to wonder woman.
but is strange isnt, that the so called most acclaimed mcu movie is a joke and a parody compared to the serious source material, gets more weird when you look at the most acclaimed dc and xmen movies, logan and tdk.
If that was the case, we'd be on Blade 12 by now. well considering the media told everyone bp was the first black hero, I value Blade more.
speaking of race. notice blade did not need any race baiting. he was a vampire slayer that could kick ass that just happens to be black
mcu disney knew they had a generic movie from the start so they made it about race to protect any real criticism.
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Post by politicidal on Sept 17, 2018 3:32:23 GMT
If that was the case, we'd be on Blade 12 by now. well considering the media told everyone bp was the first black hero, I value Blade more.
speaking of race. notice blade did not need any race baiting. he was a vampire slayer that could kick ass that just happens to be black
mcu disney knew they had a generic movie from the start so they made it about race to protect any real criticism.
Must have left you chafing. |
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Post by Skaathar on Sept 17, 2018 4:57:17 GMT
If you're removing BP and WW from the comparisons due to "reasons" then you should also remove TDK and Logan because they also suffered from "reasons". No they didn't and even if It did, that means it will go down to TDKR and DOFP. both movies also praised form been compelling dramas, with depth. thor 3 will still be silly jokey parody.
Infact thor 3 will get into more trouble when you put it against DOFP since DOFP followed the content and tone of the comics and is not a joke or a parody of the 1981 comics like Ragrarok is a joke and a parody of the comics and norse mythology.
logan and tdk have white males, so they did not suffer from anything. once again, mcu fans grasping for straws to defend why your medicore jokey movies are getting so called good reviews for been dumb.
So you think RT reviewers rate movies depending on how well they match the comics? Man, you sure are dumb. |
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Post by scabab on Sept 17, 2018 5:34:00 GMT
rt was updated , remember when dc fans used to say wonder woman was the highest rated rt movie? I remember DC Fan saying that, most everyone else thought it was undeserved as they now do with Black Panther because neither movie is the best. What is weird exactly? What are you getting at? Avengers and Thor Ragnarok were both acclaimed...The Dark Knight and Logan were acclaimed...one set of movies is light hearted and the other is more grounded and serious and...what of it? All four movies deserve good reviews with The Dark Knight the most deserving which is why it got the highest. |
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Post by summers8 on Sept 17, 2018 7:07:28 GMT
well considering the media told everyone bp was the first black hero, I value Blade more.
speaking of race. notice blade did not need any race baiting. he was a vampire slayer that could kick ass that just happens to be black
mcu disney knew they had a generic movie from the start so they made it about race to protect any real criticism.
Must have left you chafing. also insulting to black people all over the world. the media thinks blacks don't understand things like story telling, cinematography, visual effects, directing just lie to blacks it is the first black comic film and they think blacks will say it is the best ever. I guarantee you most black people don't think that way, |
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Post by DSDSquared on Sept 17, 2018 12:05:20 GMT
Logan is a very good movie and I enjoyed it, but I like Thor 3 MUCH better. It is simply more entertaining. This may come as a shock to you, but movies do not have to be extra dark and gritty to be good.
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Post by politicidal on Sept 17, 2018 13:58:24 GMT
Must have left you chafing. also insulting to black people all over the world. the media thinks blacks don't understand things like story telling, cinematography, visual effects, directing just lie to blacks it is the first black comic film and they think blacks will say it is the best ever. I guarantee you most black people don't think that way, I’ll beg to differ and I doubt that you know how anyone thinks. |
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 17, 2018 14:12:06 GMT
I’m not going to comment on the main point simply because I don’t have (or, really, care about) an answer for it, but I was intrigued by the “parody” comment. As I wrote here, I was disappointed by the way in which Thor: Ragnarok cheapened the conception of the apocalypse that it had set up for itself. The mood did come off as a joke, a “hey, the world’s endin’—who cares?” But the humor and acting were good, so even if I didn’t like it on the whole, I’m happy I saw it. I still wouldn’t call it “parody,” though, which seems to be something rather different.
I’m not sure if I’ve written this here before, but I’ve always found Iron Man to be something of a parody—of Batman Begins, of all things. The plot points are rather similar, except that every point is just exaggerated enough. (It’d be even more similar if they’d kept the Mandarin as the villain, as they’d originally intended.)
I’ve never seen anyone else remark on that, and Iron Man is certainly not a no-holds-barred Mel Brooks-esque spoof, but it’s almost a clever subversion of what we’ve already seen that makes it so refreshing. (Iron Man 3 also has these qualities; also, Mark of the Vampire [’35] probably started this trend long ago when it parodied—subtly, gently—Dracula [’31].)
Anyway, point is that “parody” is not a bad thing even in a non-comical movie. The gentle exaggeration makes it clever—“we know you’ve already seen this, we know it’s ridiculous, but we’ve got a few surprises up our sleeve, and suspend your disbelief and come along for the ride.”
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Post by mog1138 on Sept 17, 2018 15:04:14 GMT
Must have left you chafing. also insulting to black people all over the world. the media thinks blacks don't understand things like story telling, cinematography, visual effects, directing just lie to blacks it is the first black comic film and they think blacks will say it is the best ever. I guarantee you most black people don't think that way,  I don't even know where to begin with this. The straight up "alternative facts" or the subtle racism. |
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