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Post by summers8 on Sept 18, 2018 1:50:40 GMT
So in highlight of the spiderman game, once again MCU seems to be failing to produce the best of Marvel. reminds me of the mcu vs capcom flop of 2017..bad bad game.
Extending it to movies, cartoons, tv, comics, impact. has anyone else noticed the best of marvel has nothing to do with MCU.
1. It is a non argument at the point that Logan is the most acclaimed and revered marvel movie. finally marvel has something as good as the dark knight, and even the other movies that people take seriously or see as grown up and not disney fluff go to the best of the xmen movies an sam raimi's spiderman movies
2. The best marvel cartoons ever made is still by most X-MEN TAS and even alternates will be spiderman tas, xmen evolution and spectacular spiderman. marvel animation today that focuses on mcu is beyond laughable. to easy for DC
3. Comics is a non issue, just give it to xmen and spiderman in terms of marvel literacy and F4 and daredevil coming after. Disney derailed their comics.
4. Games, marvel made what was perhaps the most important crossover video games in history with xmen vs street fighter , that is still a classic today, there may not even be a DC vs Mortal Kombat if not for that game, they found other success with xmen legends series , spiderman 2004 and marvel alliance. the gaming side of marvel disney has declined sharply in recent years. they have no arkham games or injustice.
5. Television, their earlier netlfix shows faired better like daredevil season 1 and jessica jones season 1 but that was because they were not disney movie influenced and even with that, Legion became more acclaimed than both shows. s
Now in 2018, there is spiderman ps4 game now called the best marvel game yet..at least for PS4 .All have zero to do with MCU? The best of marvel have all come with no MCU connection or influence.
I think this is why DC is now a much superior brand, no aspect of DC is actually weak or lacking.
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Post by Skaathar on Sept 18, 2018 3:07:33 GMT
You do realize this is the MCU movie board right? Not the Marvel gaming board, nor the Marvel comics board nor even the Marvel cartoon board.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 3:25:02 GMT
So in highlight of the spiderman game, once again MCU seems to be failing to produce the best of Marvel. reminds me of the mcu vs capcom flop of 2017..bad bad game.
Extending it to movies, cartoons, tv, comics, impact. has anyone else noticed the best of marvel has nothing to do with MCU.
1. It is a non argument at the point that Logan is the most acclaimed and revered marvel movie. finally marvel has something as good as the dark knight, and even the other movies that people take seriously or see as grown up and not disney fluff go to the best of the xmen movies an sam raimi's spiderman movies
2. The best marvel cartoons ever made is still by most X-MEN TAS and even alternates will be spiderman tas, xmen evolution and spectacular spiderman. marvel animation today that focuses on mcu is beyond laughable. to easy for DC
3. Comics is a non issue, just give it to xmen and spiderman in terms of marvel literacy and F4 and daredevil coming after. Disney derailed their comics.
4. Games, marvel made what was perhaps the most important crossover video games in history with xmen vs street fighter , that is still a classic today, there may not even be a DC vs Mortal Kombat if not for that game, they found other success with xmen legends series , spiderman 2004 and marvel alliance. the gaming side of marvel disney has declined sharply in recent years. they have no arkham games or injustice.
5. Television, their earlier netlfix shows faired better like daredevil season 1 and jessica jones season 1 but that was because they were not disney movie influenced and even with that, Legion became more acclaimed than both shows. s
Now in 2018, there is spiderman ps4 game now called the best marvel game yet..at least for PS4 .All have zero to do with MCU? The best of marvel have all come with no MCU connection or influence.so when people say mcu is nothing but a kids factory toy house with no artistic merit,see where we coming from? the reality does not lie
I think this is why DC is now a much superior brand, no aspect of DC is actually weak or lacking.
After all that, you think the DCEU is better? That was your point? And you believe it? |
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Post by scabab on Sept 18, 2018 5:37:41 GMT
Weak points really. The MCU hasn't created a Video Game, Cartoon series or Comic series. They have created Movies and Television shows. Of which Daredevil is considered the best Live Action Superhero Show ever. www.imdb.com/chart/toptv?ref_=tt_awdAmongst the movies as you pointed out Black Panther is technically the most critically acclaimed Superhero movie. If you wish to ignore the critics and instead focused on ordinary movie goers then Infinity War is rated the best. www.imdb.com/chart/topSo really out of the two things that they are actually involved with making, as far as the average joe goes they have made the best. |
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Post by summers8 on Sept 18, 2018 6:02:58 GMT
Weak points really. The MCU hasn't created a Video Game, Cartoon series or Comic series. They have created Movies and Television shows. Of which Daredevil is considered the best Live Action Superhero Show ever. www.imdb.com/chart/toptv?ref_=tt_awdAmongst the movies as you pointed out Black Panther is technically the most critically acclaimed Superhero movie. If you wish to ignore the critics and instead focused on ordinary movie goers then Infinity War is rated the best. www.imdb.com/chart/topSo really out of the two things that they are actually involved with making, as far as the average joe goes they have made the best. they have.
they created a video game last year..it flopped but it was also bad and poorly made. marvel vs capcom 2017. in fact disney even went as far as to say only mcu characters in it.
marvel comics now have greatly declined, They have lost readers in the disney era because disney was trying to make it fit their movies even to the point of cancelling F4
Also marvel has many animations modelled after the mcu...they have all been bad, all flopped, all deemed too silly and childish and most cant make it past one or two seasons.
Infinty war on imdb..give it a few years......it will drop. also we know IMDB is not really a thing. we also know the movie is decent at best. 96% CGI? really?
you can bring in critics too. remember critics say mcu movies are dumb fun, a far cry of the excellent character study and more serious acclaimed movies of spiderman 2, Logan or DOFP.
sad but true. I also think this is the reason many people like the spiderman gamers tried to distance themselves from homecoming saying batman arkham was the main influence.
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Post by merh on Sept 18, 2018 7:59:00 GMT
So in highlight of the spiderman game, once again MCU seems to be failing to produce the best of Marvel. reminds me of the mcu vs capcom flop of 2017..bad bad game. Not a gamer but Sounds pretty good. Logan was a hard slog for me. Could it be more predictable? Could it be more boring? Made me resent XMen fans for making a big deal out of it. Grave of the Fireflies was a party compared to it. Way better. I actually cared when the kids starved to death. Haven't been paying attention to superhero cartoons. Been watching My Hero Academia & JoJo. I have some of the anime Marvel titles Why do you feel what you like has to be The Best of Anything? I don't care if other people like stuff. What matters is if it speaks to me. I still say Student Bodies is one of the funniest horror spoofs out there. Don't care if 5 people saw it. Spiderman seems well received. Don't have Netflix Never saw any of them. AoS is better than any of the CW shows Don't tell me. You think McDonalds is the best fast food there is. Bland. Tasteless. The flavor comes from whatever sauce they put on it. |
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Post by scabab on Sept 18, 2018 16:59:43 GMT
they created a video game last year..it flopped but it was also bad and poorly made. marvel vs capcom 2017. in fact disney even went as far as to say only mcu characters in it. That is completely untrue, the game featured Nova and Venom. Marvel Studios has nothing to do with Video Games, it was Marvel Games that worked on the title and it was Capcom that chose the characters and made the game. Which is not Marvel Studios responsibility. They make the movies and the other departments make their own decisions. Problems they have also had in the past, Fantastic Four, Iron Man, Incredible Hulk, Silver Surfer, Spider-man Unlimited, Avengers United They Stand, MTV Spider-Man and Fantastic Four Worlds Greatest Heroes couldn't get more than 13 or 26 episodes before they were cancelled. Meanwhile Avengers Assembled is at a 100+ episodes, Guardians of the Galaxy is at 60+ episodes and Spider-man is still going with strong. No these excuses don't work, not when The Dark Knight is rated the highest superhero movie and it's also considered the best one. You'd be happy enough to accept that Logan is one of only four movies to be rated in the Top 250 after all. You might think it's decent at best but your opinion doesn't match the consensus. Which doesn't matter at all because they are entirely different movies. They are not trying to do the same thing, something like Guardians of the Galaxy is not trying to do what Logan did, it is just attempting to be a fun movie. You can have highly acclaimed movies that are fun without being too in-depth with the characters. Predator is highly acclaimed and that's essentially just a dumb fun action movie. |
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Sept 18, 2018 17:28:49 GMT
If you're trying to sell that you're a petty douche, you're succeeding.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 18:13:41 GMT
If you're trying to sell that you're a petty douche, you're succeeding. Agreed, despite the fact I've no desire to insult, it's true.
There's no serious argument here, or anything interesting. I don't see any arguments against the Marvel movies or for DC movies, I just see a person who desperately needs to lighten up.
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Post by egon1982 on Oct 2, 2018 6:56:16 GMT
DOFP is overrated stuff from Fox, ashamed of it's roots and Bryan Singer thinks it's 2000, Captain America Winter Soldier is much better 2014 Marvel film.
DOFP is just creative bankruptness making it act like it's 2000! even Dark Knight trilogy is ashamed of itself. MCU goes for creativity and quality i enjoy in Marvel and so is Fox's Deadpool 1 and 2 which are unashamed of where they came from and are the only Fox Marvel things to surprise me.
X-Men TAS is not that good.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 2, 2018 7:50:09 GMT
DOFP is overrated stuff from Fox, ashamed of it's roots and Bryan Singer thinks it's 2000, Captain America Winter Soldier is much better 2014 Marvel film. DOFP is just creative bankruptness making it act like it's 2000! even Dark Knight trilogy is ashamed of itself. MCU goes for creativity and quality (LOL) i enjoy in Marvel and so is Fox's Deadpool 1 and 2 which are unashamed of where they came from and are the only Fox Marvel things to surprise me. X-Men TAS is not that good.  brilliant manchild parody.
Sam lives!
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 2, 2018 8:05:04 GMT
DOFP is overrated stuff from Fox, ashamed of it's roots and Bryan Singer thinks it's 2000, Captain America Winter Soldier is much better 2014 Marvel film. DOFP is just creative bankruptness making it act like it's 2000! even Dark Knight trilogy is ashamed of itself. MCU goes for creativity and quality (LOL) i enjoy in Marvel and so is Fox's Deadpool 1 and 2 which are unashamed of where they came from and are the only Fox Marvel things to surprise me. X-Men TAS is not that good. brilliant manchild parody.
Sam lives!
Beat me too it. After reading his was going to put sam? |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 2, 2018 8:14:50 GMT
brilliant manchild parody.
Sam lives!
Beat me too it. After reading his was going to put sam? or is he...? There are a great many sons of Sam...
....and his OP "kiddy" thread is pure raptor-speak including the quote. www.fanfiction.net/u/2808409/WeirdRaptor
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Post by Vassaggo on Oct 2, 2018 8:54:50 GMT
Beat me too it. After reading his was going to put sam? or is he...? There are a great many sons of Sam...
....and his OP "kiddy" thread is pure raptor-speak including the quote. www.fanfiction.net/u/2808409/WeirdRaptor
Sons of Sam maybe too harsh. How about we use the .44's? Same general reference just a little more subtle. And not to sound to much like Kup from Transformers, but back in the Old Wars on the original IMDB C.S. Lewis' quote was ubiquitous. Not that it doesn't have merit though. Weirdly I said this tonight. And I firmly believe it. Just odd of all nights me saying that then this happens. |
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Post by DSDSquared on Oct 2, 2018 13:11:40 GMT
I still say that DOFP and Winter Soldier are better movies than Logan.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 2, 2018 16:03:15 GMT
Sons of Sam maybe too harsh. How about we use the .44's? Same general reference just a little more subtle. And not to sound to much like Kup from Transformers, but back in the Old Wars on the original IMDB C.S. Lewis' quote was ubiquitous. Not that it doesn't have merit though. Weirdly I said this tonight. And I firmly believe it. Just odd of all nights me saying that then this happens. I would settle for Sons of former Sam...Anyway, this son of a Sam usually resides in the raptor's darknet. And if you know anything, the gates of that hellhole have just opened and vomited out their's foulest, most despicable creatures.
What is their mission? To troll and confuse this forum with raptor- and sam-esque speak? Or to distract us with a clumsy dance off from Sam's and the Raptor's new sock attack?
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Post by egon1982 on Oct 2, 2018 19:06:05 GMT
DOFP is overrated stuff from Fox, ashamed of it's roots and Bryan Singer thinks it's 2000, Captain America Winter Soldier is much better 2014 Marvel film. DOFP is just creative bankruptness making it act like it's 2000! even Dark Knight trilogy is ashamed of itself. MCU goes for creativity and quality (LOL) i enjoy in Marvel and so is Fox's Deadpool 1 and 2 which are unashamed of where they came from and are the only Fox Marvel things to surprise me. X-Men TAS is not that good. brilliant manchild parody.
Sam lives!
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Post by egon1982 on Oct 2, 2018 19:12:46 GMT
“Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”
― C.S. Lewis
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 2, 2018 19:17:26 GMT
Beat me too it. After reading his was going to put sam? or is he...? There are a great many sons of Sam...
....and his OP "kiddy" thread is pure raptor-speak including the quote. www.fanfiction.net/u/2808409/WeirdRaptor
It does make you wonder. But he joined ages ago and doesn't appear to be active enough for it to be a sock account for one of those board defenders. Maybe he's decided somebody needs to fight the good fight? |
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Post by politicidal on Oct 2, 2018 19:32:20 GMT
I still say that DOFP and Winter Soldier are better movies than Logan. Oh totally. |
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