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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 19, 2018 2:00:05 GMT
how would you feel?? and do you believe it?
is this the bittersweet ending GRMM promised? because to me it would be more
than bittersweet it would be disastrous. all these families died so two targaryens can meet
well one of them is half Targaryen, so they can restore the targaryen name/dynasty?
is this is what they mean when they say bring the story full circle?
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Sept 19, 2018 3:37:25 GMT
I wouldn't feel any worse about the show than I do now but I see no chance of it happening.
What I can see is Davos made President of the United Nonsense of Westeros. It's just as bad.
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Post by Aj_June on Sept 19, 2018 8:02:12 GMT
how would you feel?? and do you believe it? is this the bittersweet ending GRMM promised? because to me it would be more than bittersweet it would be disastrous. all these families died so two targaryens can meet well one of them is half Targaryen, so they can restore the targaryen name/dynasty? is this is what they mean when they say bring the story full circle? Hi Jonsa,
I believe as per the norms of Westeros Jon is a full Targaryen. It is a patriarchal society. Yeah Targaryens inbred a lot and that was not the case with Jon but that still doesn't change the fact that Westeros is a patriarchal. Though I do accept that there is a lot more Stark in his personality and beliefs. Probably due to his bringing up.
I am not a fan of Targaryens. I have always disliked them. I do not dislike Jon in anyway but I wish he died at the end of the show. If he was brought back to life for a reason then once that reason is over then he should die. I have no interest in Dany character and have never liked her at all. So I don't feel well about Targaryen restoration. It would be horrible ending if other things don't compensate for it.
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Post by Marv on Sept 19, 2018 9:55:19 GMT
Do you mean Dany on the throne? Dany on the throne, seems like a missed destiny. I know that’s her goal but I don’t think it will wind up being her greatest achievement.
I honestly don’t want to see an iron throne when all things are finished. I think it makes far more sense for the Seven Kingdoms to go back to just that, and free themselves from a single ruler. Maybe a collective unification with several equally powerful senator types from each area of Westeros.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 21, 2018 16:01:06 GMT
Do you mean Dany on the throne? Dany on the throne, seems like a missed destiny. I know that’s her goal but I don’t think it will wind up being her greatest achievement. I honestly don’t want to see an iron throne when all things are finished. I think it makes far more sense for the Seven Kingdoms to go back to just that, and free themselves from a single ruler. Maybe a collective unification with several equally powerful senator types from each area of Westeros. They seem to be hinting to Dany and Jon ruling together , however personally i don't believe in this theory Dany had many visions/dreams came close to the iron throne never touches it never sits on it plus her style of ruling is not any better than those she burns so if Jon is not by her side I find people of westeros very hard accepting her |
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 21, 2018 16:03:39 GMT
how would you feel?? and do you believe it? is this the bittersweet ending GRMM promised? because to me it would be more than bittersweet it would be disastrous. all these families died so two targaryens can meet well one of them is half Targaryen, so they can restore the targaryen name/dynasty? is this is what they mean when they say bring the story full circle? Hi Jonsa,
I believe as per the norms of Westeros Jon is a full Targaryen. It is a patriarchal society. Yeah Targaryens inbred a lot and that was not the case with Jon but that still doesn't change the fact that Westeros is a patriarchal. Though I do accept that there is a lot more Stark in his personality and beliefs. Probably due to his bringing up.
I am not a fan of Targaryens. I have always disliked them. I do not dislike Jon in anyway but I wish he died at the end of the show. If he was brought back to life for a reason then once that reason is over then he should die. I have no interest in Dany character and have never liked her at all. So I don't feel well about Targaryen restoration. It would be horrible ending if other things don't compensate for it.
It's true in those years fathers side of family mattered more , I don't want Jon dead I think this entire story and everything happening was about him finding out who he was and who he was meant to be but if he does die it will be a very bittersweet moment , beric has one more life to give I think his own to someone who May Die it's speculated could be Jon . |
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 21, 2018 16:05:20 GMT
I wouldn't feel any worse about the show than I do now but I see no chance of it happening. What I can see is Davos made President of the United Nonsense of Westeros. It's just as bad. Lol someone told me women will rule westeros , GRMM is a feminist and Something Dany said in season 3 "all men must die " but we are not men. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Sept 21, 2018 16:14:30 GMT
I wouldn't feel any worse about the show than I do now but I see no chance of it happening. What I can see is Davos made President of the United Nonsense of Westeros. It's just as bad. Lol someone told me women will rule westeros , GRMM is a feminist and Something Dany said in season 3 "all men must die " but we are not men. Yes, that's another very likely outcome. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Sept 22, 2018 13:18:12 GMT
I think a Targaryen coming back to the throne with a different way to rule is good symmetry.
What I don;t want is the continuing tradition that is horrible to all but the few.
That would make the entire story preceding it pointless.
No matter who does it, breaking the wheel should be the overall theme.
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Post by Aj_June on Sept 22, 2018 13:26:38 GMT
I think a Targaryen coming back to the throne with a different way to rule is good symmetry. What I don;t want is the continuing tradition that is horrible to all but the few. That would make the entire story preceding it pointless. No matter who does it, breaking the wheel should be the overall theme. By 'continuing tradition' did you mean incest? |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Sept 22, 2018 13:52:39 GMT
No matter who does it, breaking the wheel should be the overall theme. Breaking the wheel is just another obsession of tyrants and the belief of naive fools who end up paying for it. The overall theme is to show those, which is why the lizard bitch will end up falling on her face, crushing more lives for no results. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Sept 22, 2018 15:07:17 GMT
I think a Targaryen coming back to the throne with a different way to rule is good symmetry. What I don;t want is the continuing tradition that is horrible to all but the few. That would make the entire story preceding it pointless. No matter who does it, breaking the wheel should be the overall theme. By 'continuing tradition' did you mean incest? no I mean the seven houses. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Sept 22, 2018 15:21:06 GMT
By 'continuing tradition' did you mean incest? no I mean the seven houses. Brother and sister was tradition. I suppose aunt and nephew is "progressive"  |
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Post by bluerisk on Sept 22, 2018 21:01:35 GMT
how would you feel?? and do you believe it? is this the bittersweet ending GRMM promised? because to me it would be more than bittersweet it would be disastrous. all these families died so two targaryens can meet well one of them is half Targaryen, so they can restore the targaryen name/dynasty? is this is what they mean when they say bring the story full circle? Well, wasn't that bimbo all about breaking the wheel?! For now she is spinning it faster and faster, and with providing the NK with a dragon and thus paving him the path South, she will be responsible for the death of millions...she, this dwarf and that Winterfell bastard. My hopes rest with Sansa (forming a political alliance), Jamie (leading the army of this alliance), Bran (the intel and recon), Samwell + Qyburn (the game changing weapons and tactics), Drogon (firepower), Rhaegal (more firepower) and Ser Pounce (officer for the morale). |
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 22, 2018 21:53:48 GMT
how would you feel?? and do you believe it? is this the bittersweet ending GRMM promised? because to me it would be more than bittersweet it would be disastrous. all these families died so two targaryens can meet well one of them is half Targaryen, so they can restore the targaryen name/dynasty? is this is what they mean when they say bring the story full circle? Well, wasn't that bimbo all about breaking the wheel?! For now she is spinning it faster and faster, and with providing the NK with a dragon and thus paving him the path South, she will be responsible for the death of millions...she, this dwarf and that Winterfell bastard. My hopes rest with Sansa (forming a political alliance), Jamie (leading the army of this alliance), Bran (the intel and recon), Samwell + Qyburn (the game changing weapons and tactics), Drogon (firepower), Rhaegal (more firepower) and Ser Pounce (officer for the morale). i agree with you dany was focused for a while and lately she been losing it , meeting the king of the north didnt help thats why tyrion looked pissed at end of season 7 episode ,i too think sansa will form a political alliance but i think someone will pay the price for it ,and could be whoever does pay the price danys death comes next ,emilia clarke in recent interview aid that danys last scenes or doing may leave a bad taste or feeling with fans so if she is preparing fans so early on- the execution spoiler about you know who- most likely is true -or sadly she may try to hurt someone close to jon , sansa, poison has always been a big theme on GOT and especially with sansa , in season 1 or 2 i think cersei told sansa to be careful when she loves -love is poison and it may kill you she actually was giving her good advice , bunch of jonsa fellow fans we speculate often on theories and one theory is dany may try to poison sansa because she will sense the tension and love jon and sansa have for each other , LF had sensed and knew it already this is why he was bringing up dany and how beautiful she is to sansa and how jon may marry her to form an alliance-everyone thinks it will be cersei who may try the poisoning thing but bunch of us think if it goes that way it will be dany ,beric may give the kiss of life to sansa she will reborn like jon was. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Sept 23, 2018 1:51:54 GMT
how would you feel?? and do you believe it? Well, wasn't that bimbo all about breaking the wheel?! For now she is spinning it faster and faster… This is what makes me so unforgiving about her dumb fans. They stand for the character who "starts a war for peace". There might be no limits to stupidity but there will always be to tolerance of it. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Sept 23, 2018 2:01:14 GMT
emilia clarke in recent interview aid that danys last scenes or doing may leave a bad taste or feeling with fans… I have had a terrible taste since S3 but it's nice to learn that Daenerys will be made to act as the villain she's been since S1E07. She started out as the passive sister of a pretender sold to a savage but the moment he died, she took his place and stood entranced, staring at the man who promised to destroy, kill, rape and enslave the people of what she called her home. That's a villain to me. |
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 23, 2018 15:45:26 GMT
emilia clarke in recent interview aid that danys last scenes or doing may leave a bad taste or feeling with fans… I have had a terrible taste since S3 but it's nice to learn that Daenerys will be made to act as the villain she's been since S1E07. She started out as the passive sister of a pretender sold to a savage but the moment he died, she took his place and stood entranced, staring at the man who promised to destroy, kill, rape and enslave the people of what she called her home. That's a villain to me. i cant argue with that at all , dont think anyone can because she did do those things , as seasons went by i saw her having same goals as her brother viserys did . |
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